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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 9 @ 9:21 PM ET
I don't think JT Miller is on anyone's wish list. Problem child.
- bloatedmosquito

I think there is a market for Miller for sure. However, no chance we are getting 3rd overall.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 9 @ 9:46 PM ET
I think there is a market for Miller for sure. However, no chance we are getting 3rd overall.
- CanuckDon


Yeah, you're right there is a market but not for 3rd overall in this draft. And tagging Boeser onto the deal is hilarious. The guy has no value at all with that contract of his.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 9 @ 10:11 PM ET
Yeah, you're right there is a market but not for 3rd overall in this draft. And tagging Boeser onto the deal is hilarious. The guy has no value at all with that contract of his.
- bloatedmosquito

Lefty is high as (frank) again. Perhaps we should have his intervention at the picnic ?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 9 @ 10:47 PM ET
Finally some rain
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 9 @ 11:21 PM ET
All of the posts were less offensive than your 11th for Hanifan
- CanuckDon


You think Alvin could do better? It was the 11th +, and Hanifin isn’t even damaged.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 9 @ 11:23 PM ET

You think Alvin could do better? It was the 11th +, and Hanifin isn’t even damaged.

- K-man25


Who cares?
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 9 @ 11:25 PM ET
Who cares?

- VanHockeyGuy

Flames fans!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 9 @ 11:30 PM ET
Flames fans!
- K-man25


Flames are trash, like VAN.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 9 @ 11:53 PM ET

You think Alvin could do better? It was the 11th +, and Hanifin isn’t even damaged.

- K-man25

Dude your trolling is really bad. Even the dumb posters aren’t biting.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 9 @ 11:58 PM ET
Flames are trash, like VAN.
- VanHockeyGuy

Correct but at least we aren’t as (frank)ed.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 10 @ 1:06 AM ET
Yeah, you're right there is a market but not for 3rd overall in this draft. And tagging Boeser onto the deal is hilarious. The guy has no value at all with that contract of his.
- bloatedmosquito

It really depends how much is traded at both ends. Trades for the 3rd overall pick trend to be pretty big, or at least complex. One team's Boeser is another team's gudbranson.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 10 @ 2:05 AM ET
Apparently CBJ’s GM is open for business and willing to trade the 3rd overall, according to reports put out by NHL insiders on Twitter. Please dear God trade JT Miller and Boeser for the 3rd OA and Roslovic.
- LeftCoaster


If the Canucks are trading up they're 100% attaching the 11th with it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 10 @ 2:08 AM ET
If the Canucks are trading up they're 100% attaching the 11th with it.
- NewYorkNuck

Yup
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 10 @ 2:13 AM ET
From Duhatschek at the Athletic:

There was speculation a few weeks back that the Blues Jackets would consider moving the No. 3 pick in a top-heavy draft to Calgary for center Elias Lindholm, provided Lindholm was prepared to sign a contract extension, like what they did with Severson. The theory behind trading for Lindholm would be to reunite him with last year’s big Columbus offseason UFA add, Johnny Gaudreau, who had 115 points playing with him in their final year together in Calgary.


Soooo maybe the JTM to BJs framework could work?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 10 @ 2:24 AM ET


I've been cheated tonight... transvestite!
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jun 10 @ 7:17 AM ET
Read that also & looked into Willander more. 1st off Danielson won’t be gone. Those others probably. Willander has certainly played into the picture & looks like an ideal pick at 11. Keeping the pick will leave some interesting prospects to pick from. Don’t see it but adding a top half 2nd pick would be a stellar move with this deep draft & get more D.

My trade down is our 11th for the Hawks 19th & 35th. Take BDA available then BDA (Simashev) then maybe another D if not dried up.

If Willander there at 19 fun fun choice. If not the 39th & it’s 45th might still like swapping picks.

- Nighthawk


Simashev and Willander will not be THERE at 19 and 35 draft slots. If you trade down you will have to reach on 2nd round D. Look at history of draft where top 4 potential D rise all the time. It’s a long term need for all teams and cost to trade for them is very high.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jun 10 @ 7:44 AM ET
It really depends how much is traded at both ends. Trades for the 3rd overall pick trend to be pretty big, or at least complex. One team's Boeser is another team's gudbranson.
- golfingsince


JTM and BB would attract the CBJ fans to attend games. It’s a good move being locked in. Carlson will take too long for them to utilize.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:12 AM ET
If the Canucks are trading up they're 100% attaching the 11th with it.
- NewYorkNuck


Not happening, they don't have the assets nor the stones to pull it off.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:22 AM ET
All of the posts were less offensive than your 11th for Hanifan
- CanuckDon

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
Scott Wheeler

“NHL Central Scouting director Dan Marr says Etienne Morin would be his first defenceman for the draft when discussing the crop of D.”

- LeftCoaster

If you look back at NHL central scoutings rankings. You will find that they are more or less just a list of players.

The rankings actually make Pronman's swings look smart looking back.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:37 AM ET
Simashev and Willander will not be THERE at 19 and 35 draft slots. If you trade down you will have to reach on 2nd round D. Look at history of draft where top 4 potential D rise all the time. It’s a long term need for all teams and cost to trade for them is very high.
- Quinn's Quest

Simashev, I think you are seeing recency bias honestly with Alexander Nikishin in his draft plus 3 year as one of the best KHL D. He was a 3rd round pick though. Also following the footsteps of Shakir Mukhamadullin what could have been instead of JT Miller. He was picked 20th in a weaker draft but both are 6'4" smooth skating D that have played really well in the KHL.

There is potential there but a lot of bust potential as well. Simashev and Willander both might be gone by 19 because two teams are seeing only upside in them.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:49 AM ET
I wonder if Andrew Peeke is available now that Columbus has Serverson? 25, perfect age.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 11:06 AM ET
I wonder if Andrew Peeke is available now that Columbus has Serverson? 25, perfect age.
- VanHockeyGuy

They have SO many defenders now.

Werenski Severson
Provorov Jiricek
Bean Gudbranson
Berni Boqvist
Christiansen Bjork
Blankenberg Peeke

Only two of them don't need waivers.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 10 @ 11:18 AM ET
They have SO many defenders now.

Werenski Severson
Provorov Jiricek
Bean Gudbranson
Berni Boqvist
Christiansen Bjork
Blankenberg Peeke

Only two of them don't need waivers.

- manvanfan


You'd think there would be conversations, especially with the Bear situation.

Ceulemans?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 11:36 AM ET
You'd think there would be conversations, especially with the Bear situation.

Ceulemans?

- VanHockeyGuy

They are probably having conversations with every team

Van's in a tough place that there players aren't all that valuable to most teams and lack of cap space and don't actually have excess in anything that other teams would need.

Clb need a 1c well Petey and Miller could fit but Van lacks more centers.

Van already has

Hughes Hronek
OEL Myers
Brisebois Woo
Wolanin Juulsen (if he signs)
Rathbone Bear

That will all need waivers. Teams don't want other teams scraps unless paid to take them.
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