Public rankings are getting uglier and uglier.
- manvanfan

I read the explanations why certain players were ranked so much lower and others higher that were not thought of in other rankings.

But Reinbacher falling so far down is a head scratcher. I get Simashev ranking at 10 which is why I don’t think Canucks will get him. Plus ASP gone in top 10 as well.

Willander is my fall back now for D. I am certain all the good centers will be gone in top 10 as well and don’t like the rest so much to grab at 11.

Hows that sun on your skin down there?

- A_SteamingLombardi

No issues, it was hotter in the Middle East. Hats, sunscreen, shade and common sense.

Panthers need more from Barkov if they’re gonna get back in this series.

Great pass by Eichel, such a great player…despite what Boston fan Reuby thinks of him.

Pouty and the 11th to Ducks for 2OA.

Okay not bad for D but that leaves gap at center on the wrong development and compete time line.

This the reason it’s a rebuild is you’re losing your 1C for a few years until Carlson is ready for that. Which means your core will age up and if that’s the case might as well go full in.

Only reason Canucks are not rebuilding and trying to stack players 25 and under is to fit with Petey and QH plus Demko prime compete years. This is why CBJ wants to trade their pick. As it won’t help how they have set up the team. They need prime ready now. So do Canucks.

However, if Canucks can add Carlson like moving JTM plus. Then they can stopgap a UFA to fill in at 2C. Carlson comes in as 3C and works up. When he overtakes Petey in 5 years Petey can be the 2C.

Why I say that with Petey, who is developed, if you move him, you then should move the rest of the core. Then rebuild with what you bring in.
- Quinn's Quest

I know the term win now gets thrown around a lot but we finished 11 th last year and it doesn't sound like ownership are in favor of buying out a big name player to create cap room and we are anchored with contracts for at least two to three years.

I think the win now thinking is a fantasy unless they make big bold moves.

Look at Seattle two years ago had nothing and this year second round of the playoffs .

I was screwing around on CapFriendly (I don't post them on there, more of a pass of time). I did this one with an active trade offseason. It gives you a scoring forward group, a much more decent D group, the goalie situation takes a big hit , and gets rid of your AHL players off the NHL roster.

The big thing to look at is the long term cap room and flexibility you would have to fix the holes of the 23 season. It would give you a lot of flexibility to build year to year even if you don't hit your goal that year. The main thing is you have your future 1C 1RHD and 1G all starting the same time.

If we miss the playoffs the next two seasons, we can tie Toronto, for pooptiest stretch by a franchise all time. So there’s that.

Prospect link

https://canucksarmy.com/n...xt-7th-round-pick-excited

Prospect link

https://canucksarmy.com/n...xt-7th-round-pick-excited
- Nighthawk

Intersting to see how he fares as a pro in Abby. He really took a jump in his D+1. Just don’t know if it’s circumstances or development play talent related.

Why did I think this game was on later? Woke up too late to watch the 3rd. Is it come back time?

Pouty and the 11th to Ducks for 2OA.
- Reubenkincade

I'd do that, Fantilli is a natural center and will likely score as much, maybe more than Petey in his prime. Problem is, there's no way in hell the Ducks do that deal as they aren't even close and Petey is going to want 10.5-11+ for 8 years and the Ducks aren't going to want to pay that much.

Well….six years to win a Stanley Cup, imagine. Of the expansion teams to do it so quickly, the Oilers did it in five years, Vegas in six and the Flyers in seven years.

Well….six years to win a Stanley Cup, imagine. Of the expansion teams to do it so quickly, the Oilers did it in five years, Vegas in six and the Flyers in seven years.
- LeftCoaster

Technically, the Oilers were part of a merger, so not really an expansion team.

Technically, the Oilers were part of a merger, so not really an expansion team.
- Reubenkincade

True…although technically the NHL “expanded”, they were part of a merger with the WHA.

Longest Stanley Cup Droughts
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Team Years Start Year Drought Start
Toronto Maple Leafs 55 1968 Won 1967 Final
Vancouver Canucks 53 1971 Joined NHL
Buffalo Sabres 53 1971 Joined NHL
Philadelphia Flyers 48 1976 Won 1975 Final
Arizona Coyotes 44 1980 Joined NHL
New York Islanders 39 1984 Won 1983 Final
Calgary Flames 34 1990 Won 1989 Final
San Jose Sharks 32 1992 Joined NHL
Edmonton Oilers 32 1991 Won 1990 Final
Ottawa Senators 31 1993 Joined NHL
Montreal Canadiens 30 1994 Won 1993 Final
Florida Panthers 29 1994 Joined NHL
New York Rangers 28 1995 Won 1994 Final
Nashville Predators 25 1999 Joined NHL
Columbus Blue Jackets 23 2001 Joined NHL
Winnipeg Jets 23 2000 Joined NHL
Dallas Stars 23 2000 Won 1999 Final
Minnesota Wild 22 2001 Joined NHL
New Jersey Devils 19 2004 Won 2003 Final
Anaheim Ducks 16 2008 Won 2007 Final
Carolina Hurricanes 16 2007 Won 2006 Final
Detroit Red Wings 15 2009 Won 2008 Final
Boston Bruins 11 2012 Won 2011 Final
Los Angeles Kings 8 2015 Won 2014 Final
Chicago Blackhawks 8 2016 Won 2015 Final
Pittsburgh Penguins 6 2018 Won 2017 Final
Washington Capitals 5 2019 Won 2018 Final
Vegas Golden Knights 5 2018 Joined NHL
St. Louis Blues 4 2020 Won 2019 Final
Seattle Kraken 1 2022 Joined NHL
Tampa Bay Lightning 1 2022 Won 2021 Final

Well….six years to win a Stanley Cup, imagine. Of the expansion teams to do it so quickly, the Oilers did it in five years, Vegas in six and the Flyers in seven years.
- LeftCoaster

What a waste of half a century cheering for this team eh?

Pouty and the 11th to Ducks for 2OA.
- Reubenkincade

So a top10 scorer in the league for a prospect. Can I have your dealers number?

I read the explanations why certain players were ranked so much lower and others higher that were not thought of in other rankings.

But Reinbacher falling so far down is a head scratcher. I get Simashev ranking at 10 which is why I don’t think Canucks will get him. Plus ASP gone in top 10 as well.

Willander is my fall back now for D. I am certain all the good centers will be gone in top 10 as well and don’t like the rest so much to grab at 11.
- Quinn's Quest

This is why I stick to central scouting and Bob Mack, who consults scouts directly. Too much bs and misinformation out there. Literally have gone from no D in the top ten to what 2-3 now?!

Hows that sun on your skin down there?


- A_SteamingLombardi

That's a misguided, generalized statement not based on actual facts , in fact you can look it up, the arctic and antarctic have depleted ozone areas that the damage to skin can be far more then the American or even African desert regions

If we miss the playoffs the next two seasons, we can tie Toronto, for pooptiest stretch by a franchise all time. So there’s that.
- I-own_da-Northwest

We always have the 4th rounds

We always have the 4th rounds
- onesmallleap

This is what I don’t get. To push for a rebuild and lament about lack of playoffs.

A proper rebuild takes 5-10 years where there is not any hope of playoffs. So don’t understand the logic. Either sit back for a decade collecting draft picks and trying to develop them or retool what you have to find what works.

Canucks are on a long loser run so either they shed dead weight salary to retool or just move assets to draft and rebuild.

This is why I stick to central scouting and Bob Mack, who consults scouts directly. Too much bs and misinformation out there. Literally have gone from no D in the top ten to what 2-3 now?!
- neem55

It often happen that D rise high by draft day so won’t be surprised. At the same time I don’t know enough about the team priorities 5-10 rankings to influence their selection.

So at this point anything can happen. What the consensus is that real good talent is available. What the Canucks need is obvious. What they will have available seems murky. So many choices on wingers and that’s great and all but we all know enough is enough lol. The fear is a reach on D gets you an OJ and you miss out on a KT. Problem is it’s so hard to get top cost controlled D that it’s just worth the risk.

At this point what do Canucks have to lose? More years of futility. We are used to that and Management groups and coaches getting fired. It’s the Canuck way.

Panthers need more from Barkov if they’re gonna get back in this series.
- LeftCoaster

Some comparisons is Panthers 2nd trip to SCF, just like Canucks, they won 1st SCF game. But down 3-1 now. Is Barkov like Bure to get Panthers with KT, say in the Linden role to a game 7? Difference here he’s playing with one arm so might be a tall ask.

The league wants the Vegas story. They can keep expanding and selling owners on the Cup dream saying look at VGK. Plus well you know hockey was first pro team to hit Vegas to take in the revenue. Bottom line they sell more than Miami. Just like Rangers sold more than Canucks. It’s a market driven game in the end winning is about business.

I read the explanations why certain players were ranked so much lower and others higher that were not thought of in other rankings.

But Reinbacher falling so far down is a head scratcher. I get Simashev ranking at 10 which is why I don’t think Canucks will get him. Plus ASP gone in top 10 as well.

Willander is my fall back now for D. I am certain all the good centers will be gone in top 10 as well and don’t like the rest so much to grab at 11.
- Quinn's Quest

Many scouts have said the highest they would take a D on talent in this draft is early to mid teens. They have also said they will be a bit overvalued by that and public rankings now throwing 3 or more D inside the top 10.

As I said though Shakir Muldiilin was taken 20th in a lesser draft and came with a bit more jam coming into the draft but now a comparable is to be taken 10th?

https://www.flohockey.tv/...top-flohockeys-final-list