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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 12 @ 12:05 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy

Sorry, added who I thought their ceiling NHL comparables were after.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 12:29 PM ET
If this is accurate VAN should certainly trade down!


Jason Brough 🙁
@SadClubCommish
¡
1h
I could easily see the Canucks targeting Tom Willander at No. 11. Right-shot d-man who can defend, AND he's a Swede.

- VanHockeyGuy

The Canucks can’t trade down if they want Willander as he won’t be there, in fact, he may not make
It to 11. Canucks took Willander, Barlow, and Daniellson out to dinner at the combine
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 12 @ 12:31 PM ET
The Canucks can’t trade down if they want Willander as he won’t be there, in fact, he may not make
It to 11. Canucks took Willander, Barlow, and Daniellson out to dinner at the combine

- CanuckDon

Do you know what they ordered?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 12:32 PM ET
Do you know what they ordered?
- K-man25

No I wasn’t there
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 12 @ 12:41 PM ET
Where's Lefty, post the Harman article in your blog for all to read.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 12 @ 12:44 PM ET
The Canucks can’t trade down if they want Willander as he won’t be there, in fact, he may not make
It to 11. Canucks took Willander, Barlow, and Daniellson out to dinner at the combine

- CanuckDon

It sounds like a lot of teams are going to reach for players. I'd move back a few spots then and pick up another asset.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 12:45 PM ET
It sounds like a lot of teams are going to reach for players. I'd move back a few spots then and pick up another asset.
- manvanfan

Willander is going high and they would be lucky to draft him at 11 imo. It’s not that teams are going to reach, it’s that this draft will be very volatile beyond the top 3. Willander could go at 6 it wouldn’t be surprising. Did DET reach when they took Seider at 5? Probably not, he was likely that high on their list. Folks get way to caught up on basement bloggers draft lists
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 12 @ 12:53 PM ET
Willander is going high and they would be lucky to draft him at 11 imo. It’s not that teams are going to reach, it’s that this draft will be very volatile beyond the top 3. Willander could go at 6 it wouldn’t be surprising
- CanuckDon

I'd say they've got it right that he is in the same tier as players like Danielson and Barlow. Defence are in need and have sneaky value.

Rasmus Andersson who I said could be his ceiling played 24 minutes a night and is avg about 50 points per season over the last two years. That's a top 30 D in the NHL these days.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
I'd say they've got it right that he is in the same tier as players like Danielson and Barlow. Defence are in need and have sneaky value.

Rasmus Andersson who I said could be his ceiling played 24 minutes a night and is avg about 50 points per season over the last two years. That's a top 30 D in the NHL these days.

- manvanfan

I’m totally fine with taking the best available center or D this draft. Lots of interesting centers should be available at 11. I prefer not discussing Flames players
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 12 @ 1:01 PM ET
Willander is going high and they would be lucky to draft him at 11 imo. It’s not that teams are going to reach, it’s that this draft will be very volatile beyond the top 3. Willander could go at 6 it wouldn’t be surprising. Did DET reach when they took Seider at 5? Probably not, he was likely that high on their list. Folks get way to caught up on basement bloggers draft lists
- CanuckDon

Really no because the draft has turned into a pretty big dud. Seider a 6'4" defender who held his own vs men all season as a 17 year old. The DEL league is a good league.

Willander didn't play more than a couple of games in the SHL and didn't exactly dominate the junior ranks. He had a Forsling type season. That might be the whole copy cat league that Forsling a 5th round pick by the Great Jim Benning is now playing top pair minutes in the SCF.

I really dislike a lot of the basement bloggers draft lists because they all find a couple guys and take that huge swing to make a name for themselves. Pronman does it every year and people pay to read his poop
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
I’m totally fine with taking the best available center or D this draft. Lots of interesting centers should be available at 11. I prefer not discussing Flames players
- CanuckDon

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 12 @ 1:18 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy

Bro. Do your dekes. 💗BOTCH
@priored

All 3 players would be a mistake at 11., you better be wrong ,they can get these players in the 19-30 range so this means they are trading down for sure, why cant you see this??. They should be targeting:
Dvorsky
Leonard
Reinbacher
Pellikka
Perreault
Wood
Stenberg

Stephen Rowe
@Stephen86301158

Not a fan of any of them. Low ceiling players, targeted for profile above skill. Low hockey iq players!
Dvorsky, Reinbacher, Moore, Leonard, Benson, Sale one will be available.
Not everyone agrees about Danielson, Barlow, Willander
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:28 PM ET
Not everyone agrees about Danielson, Barlow, Willander
- manvanfan

Who are these idiots and why is Pellican so highly ranked and how does this idiot know they will be available late in the first round. Every moron that watches hockey becomes a draft expert every June. Rather annoying
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 1:33 PM ET
Who are these idiots and why is Pellican so highly ranked and how does this idiot know they will be available late in the first round. Every moron that watches hockey becomes a draft expert every June. Rather annoying
- CanuckDon

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:38 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy

Willander may be a Swede but he has above average size and has a mean streak ❤️. Whoever we draft, please no more soft smurfs 🤢
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 12 @ 1:46 PM ET
Who are these idiots and why is Pellican so highly ranked and how does this idiot know they will be available late in the first round. Every moron that watches hockey becomes a draft expert every June. Rather annoying
- CanuckDon

Twitter guys and everybody has their bias. Except for me. Sort of.

I don't have a bias in that speed trumps everything or he's a big physical center, so he moves up 15 spots, even though he doesn't have other skills.

I ranked based on how a player projects to the NHL and most of it is a starting base off what scouts or insiders have said about players and a lot are just put into tiers and could care less who they get from whatever tier.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 12 @ 1:53 PM ET
Who are these idiots and why is Pellican so highly ranked and how does this idiot know they will be available late in the first round. Every moron that watches hockey becomes a draft expert every June. Rather annoying
- CanuckDon




Though that's not fair, some of them are experts year round
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 1:54 PM ET
Willander may be a Swede but he has above average size and has a mean streak ❤️. Whoever we draft, please no more soft smurfs 🤢
- CanuckDon


I'm okay if he has a mean streak.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 1:58 PM ET
There you go Don...


Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
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Replying to
@SadClubCommish
Canucks like Willander a lot.
Was told on weekend they are very high on him.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:00 PM ET
Bobfather has Willander at 46?

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/599426/tom-willander
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
Bobfather has Willander at 46?

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/599426/tom-willander

- VanHockeyGuy

As I said earlier, he had a Gustav Forsling type of season. A mediocre regular season, turn it up a bit after Christmas, break out at the u18s. That was a 5th round pick that took 6 years to work out and 4 teams. Now he is talked about as the 11th overall pick in a strong draft.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jun 12 @ 2:16 PM ET
The Canucks can’t trade down if they want Willander as he won’t be there, in fact, he may not make
It to 11. Canucks took Willander, Barlow, and Daniellson out to dinner at the combine

- CanuckDon


VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:20 PM ET
As I said earlier, he had a Gustav Forsling type of season. A mediocre regular season, turn it up a bit after Christmas, break out at the u18s. That was a 5th round pick that took 6 years to work out and 4 teams. Now he is talked about as the 11th overall pick in a strong draft.
- manvanfan


All over the map right now.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 12 @ 2:24 PM ET
"You don't win with players like Eichel" - someone in here who hates Eichel.

Conn Smythe talk
Marek said he believes Eichel should win.

Elliotte says he's leaning Eichel as well.

Seravalli says it's a toss up for him between Eichel and Marchy.


Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Jun 12 @ 2:24 PM ET
Bobfather has Willander at 46?

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/599426/tom-willander

- VanHockeyGuy


He’s a late riser. I don’t know what to say other then RHD that can skate and have size are hard to come by and he fits that. His skill set is steady. Practical level he can play in Abby sooner than later.
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