- winsix

Ya no, it’s cool.

Run it back.

It’s worked for the last 7 years, huh?

I really believe what this team needed most was a culture change, and a GM who isn’t committed to the “core four.”

A lot of promises were made (bad idea) by Dubas, and it hurt the team, imo.

Main issue for the Leafs is that there’s ZERO toughness in the top 6. Can’t win like that.

Unfortunately the Leafs have very little in terms of prospects because Doobie (frank)ed all that up (No one ever seems to talk about this) so I think moving one of the core 4 for a young middle 6 fwd and a top ten pick in this years draft would be something they need to consider.

Maybe Philly or the Caps (who might be in more of a quick rebuild mode) would consider this option. The Leafs can afford to take a step back as long as they make the playoffs.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I was hoping they would do that after last years playoffs. If they do it now and do it right, it can make an incredible difference for the better.

It looks like Carolina said screw it we’re going Florida style and it’s kinda working … just chaos out there and whatever …

He's a dirty POS and has got away with at least half a dozen suspendable penalties this playoffs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXoQnk61y5o
- winsix

Oh, no doubt about that. He'll get his at some point. Karma comes for all!

I was hoping they would do that after last years playoffs. If they do it now and do it right, it can make an incredible difference for the better.
- The Judge

It’s gotta be JT or Willy.

The Leafs would be fine w/o either of them.

Unlikely they can finesse themselves out of JT’s MNC, so pretty boy perimeter is the odd cat out. Thanks for your services, but go make 10mil somewhere else.

Tavares' contract is buyout proof. Leafs would save like $303K per season for 2 seasons. Its a non-starter. Check Cap Friendly!

https://www.capfriendly.c...t-calculator/john-tavares
- winsix

yup I know.

it's just like when people choose to include him in trades

not wise

He’s going to want 10+ mil.

He can’t play C, kill penalties, block shots etc.

He gets his cookies, but the top 6 needs to get tougher. He’s the obvious choice.

Bye Willeciaaaa…
- Arctic_AARDVARK

be funny if he signed for 8.5M for 6 more year eh.

I really believe what this team needed most was a culture change, and a GM who isn’t committed to the “core four.”

A lot of promises were made (bad idea) by Dubas, and it hurt the team, imo.

Main issue for the Leafs is that there’s ZERO toughness in the top 6. Can’t win like that.

Unfortunately the Leafs have very little in terms of prospects because Doobie (frank)ed all that up (No one ever seems to talk about this) so I think moving one of the core 4 for a young middle 6 fwd and a top ten pick in this years draft would be something they need to consider.

Maybe Philly or the Caps (who might be in more of a quick rebuild mode) would consider this option. The Leafs can afford to take a step back as long as they make the playoffs.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Well said.

Gotta love: "That's why the faceoff is inside the zone."

Yeah. They can identify blatant interference. They just can't call it.

be funny if he signed for 8.5M for 6 more year eh.
- dmnted

Even that’s rich.

But you know as well as I do that he’ll demand more.

Even that’s rich.

But you know as well as I do that he’ll demand more.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

you front load the contract.
2 yrs @ 11M mnc
2 yrs @ 9M mnc
1 yr @ 7.5M m-ntc
1 yr @ 3.5M m-ntc.

D'ont like the rat bastard, but clean hit:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1661527428957868032

This has a better view:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1661527444849930240
- The Judge

100% legal hit. Keep your head up.

Do you think it be better if they let all four refs make calls?
- dozerD10

Yes

Even that’s rich.

But you know as well as I do that he’ll demand more.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

40 goals, 87 points, played less at 5on5 with Matthews than Marner did - but you still hate the guy. Marner blocked 29 shots and Nylander blocked 23. Marner had 77 takeaways and Nylander had 64. Marner had 65 giveaways to Nylander's 29.

Nylander is a valuable player.

Did you know that Jack Eichel has never had a season as good as Nylander's 40 goal / 87 point season and he's making $10m? Mark Stone has never hit 30 goals or 65 points and is making $9.5m.

Instead of gaslighting this with comparables to higher salaries for other reasons (Skinner @ $9m despite never producing anything? previously?), I'd say that Willy's production is very similar to a guy like Alex De Brincat. He's sitting on a $9m QO and probably looking for $10m.

He's worth $8.5m or more by today's market.

40 goals, 87 points, played less at 5on5 with Matthews than Marner did - but you still hate the guy. Marner blocked 29 shots and Nylander blocked 23. Marner had 77 takeaways and Nylander had 64. Marner had 65 giveaways to Nylander's 29.

Nylander is a valuable player.

Did you know that Jack Eichel has never had a season as good as Nylander's 40 goal / 87 point season and he's making $10m? Mark Stone has never hit 30 goals or 65 points and is making $9.5m.

Instead of gaslighting this with comparables to higher salaries for other reasons (Skinner @ $9m despite never producing anything? previously?), I'd say that Willy's production is very similar to a guy like Alex De Brincat. He's sitting on a $9m QO and probably looking for $10m.

He's worth $8.5m or more by today's market.
- Monkeypunk

Yes guy. Move Marner, not William.

F\The Panthers have sweeped the Canes.

F\The Panthers have sweeped the Canes.
- dmnted

Floreda

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...anthers-worst-in-the-nhl/

This is why you always equivocate.

Floreda
- mr.sir

Looked like Maple Leaf Freddy. Does not have a big game in him.

Tkachuk is a beaut. Man.

I find it highly amusing that the major anti Nylanderites are now putting all their chips on trade Nylander because they think they can save face if they are right probably hoping to say "told ya".

LOL he has been so much better than they thought. Nylander lives rent free.....

I find it highly amusing that the major anti Nylanderites are now putting all their chips on trade Nylander because they think they can save face if they are right probably hoping to say "told ya".

LOL he has been so much better than they thought. Nylander lives rent free.....
- jribout

He can score a bit, but he is PAINFULLY soft. Not sure I care much if he goes or stays, I just cannot comprehend how someone can play pro hockey and not hit, backcheck, defend, have an edge, etc.

Hayley Wickenheiser would put more fear into Gudas than Willy Ny.

Hey, I wonder if she can still play...

He can score a bit, but he is PAINFULLY soft. Not sure I care much if he goes or stays, I just cannot comprehend how someone can play pro hockey and not hit, backcheck, defend, have an edge, etc.

Hayley Wickenheiser would put more fear into Gudas than Willy Ny.

Hey, I wonder if she can still play...
- sokosteve

His defensive positioning is questionable but you need to watch more games if you think he doesn’t back check

He can score a bit, but he is PAINFULLY soft. Not sure I care much if he goes or stays, I just cannot comprehend how someone can play pro hockey and not hit, backcheck, defend, have an edge, etc.

Hayley Wickenheiser would put more fear into Gudas than Willy Ny.

Hey, I wonder if she can still play...
- sokosteve

This is the most Canadian hockey post I've ever seen I think

More than one way to play the game.

This is the most Canadian hockey post I've ever seen I think

More than one way to play the game.
- Aaron_85

Like Bob and Doug MacKenzie Canadian?

Like Bob and Doug MacKenzie Canadian?
- jribout

Pretty close