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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 3:39 PM ET
Uhhh, NOPE! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚

A mock Carter Hart trade that could make sense to me:
To Philly:
Jordan Greenway
A 1st round pick (13th overall)
Devin Levi

To Buffalo:
Carter Hart
Mid round pick

https://twitter.com/mgaff...Bii1FHkniZ0PmJB-k6iQ&s=19
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 6 @ 3:40 PM ET
Uhhh, NOPE! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚

A mock Carter Hart trade that could make sense to me:
To Philly:
Jordan Greenway
A 1st round pick (13th overall)
Devin Levi

To Buffalo:
Carter Hart
Mid round pick

https://twitter.com/mgaff...Bii1FHkniZ0PmJB-k6iQ&s=19

- kingcong39


Tweet was deleted.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jun 6 @ 3:40 PM ET
Uhhh, NOPE! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚

A mock Carter Hart trade that could make sense to me:
To Philly:
Jordan Greenway
A 1st round pick (13th overall)
Devin Levi

To Buffalo:
Carter Hart
Mid round pick

https://twitter.com/mgaff...Bii1FHkniZ0PmJB-k6iQ&s=19

- kingcong39

๐Ÿ˜†
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jun 6 @ 3:40 PM ET
sounds like its the oilers for hart

https://twitter.com/Jamey...tatus/1666157695022383104
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jun 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
Tweet was deleted.
- ImThatGuy

As it should be. Greenway is definitely negative value but jfc
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 6 @ 3:52 PM ET
Draft status? What do you mean?
- kingcong39

He was a 2nd rounder and the first goalie selected in that draft
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 6 @ 3:56 PM ET
Uhhh, NOPE! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚

A mock Carter Hart trade that could make sense to me:
To Philly:
Jordan Greenway
A 1st round pick (13th overall)
Devin Levi

To Buffalo:
Carter Hart
Mid round pick

https://twitter.com/mgaff...Bii1FHkniZ0PmJB-k6iQ&s=19

- kingcong39


I just threw up in my mouth, a lot
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 6 @ 3:58 PM ET
Uhhh, NOPE! ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚

A mock Carter Hart trade that could make sense to me:
To Philly:
Jordan Greenway
A 1st round pick (13th overall)
Devin Levi

To Buffalo:
Carter Hart
Mid round pick

https://twitter.com/mgaff...Bii1FHkniZ0PmJB-k6iQ&s=19

- kingcong39


Go big, I guess
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 6 @ 4:00 PM ET
Go big, I guess
- joshs


That package might make sense for an elite keeper like Helleybuck. That's a massive overpay for a guy who has been up and down in this league.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jun 6 @ 4:02 PM ET
That package might make sense for an elite keeper like Helleybuck. That's a massive overpay for a guy who has been up and down in this league.
- Slump Buster

I'd do that for helley yesterday. Hart? ๐Ÿ˜†
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 6 @ 4:04 PM ET
I'd do that for helley yesterday. Hart? ๐Ÿ˜†
- TheHank


I wouldn't make that trade for a goalie as the position doesn't warrant it. As for Hart, would it be a surprise if Levi ended up having the better career?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 6 @ 4:08 PM ET
He was a 2nd rounder and the first goalie selected in that draft
- sbroads24


And might not be the best Goalie in the draft.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jun 6 @ 4:08 PM ET
I wouldn't make that trade for a goalie as the position doesn't warrant it. As for Hart, would it be a surprise if Levi ended up having the better career?
- Slump Buster


No but it wouldn't surprise me if Hart had the better career either. That's the point. The position is entirely too volatile to assume the rookie you have now is the guy you win with.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 6 @ 4:09 PM ET
How about...

Hart - 13th pick
Helly - UPL, '24 1st
Levi

Triple Entente
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 6 @ 4:12 PM ET
No but it wouldn't surprise me if Hart had the better career either. That's the point. The position is entirely too volatile to assume the rookie you have now is the guy you win with.
- Michael Ghofrani


Sure, Hart might end up having the better career, and that's my point. He is another lottery ticket. He has a higher draft position and flashes of being very good... that isn't enough for me to throw a massive package to get. I think the better teams have multiple lottery tickets and the best you can do is hope one of them takes off (particularly in the playoffs).
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jun 6 @ 4:13 PM ET
I wouldn't make that trade for a goalie as the position doesn't warrant it. As for Hart, would it be a surprise if Levi ended up having the better career?
- Slump Buster

You're giving up 2 total unknowns and a 4th liner for arguably the best goalie (definitely top 3) in the world. At face value its highway robbery.
Would it be a surprise if Levi has a better career that Hart? Not at all.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jun 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
No but it wouldn't surprise me if Hart had the better career either. That's the point. The position is entirely too volatile to assume the rookie you have now is the guy you win with.
- Michael Ghofrani

Yep.
Would it be a surprise if you win with helley? Don't answer, it's rhetorical.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
You're giving up 2 total unknowns and a 4th liner for arguably the best goalie (definitely top 3) in the world. At face value its highway robbery.
Would it be a surprise if Levi has a better career that Hart? Not at all.

- TheHank


Right - it would be a fair package for Helleybuck, but I still wouldn't make the trade given his age and contract status.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jun 6 @ 4:16 PM ET
No but it wouldn't surprise me if Hart had the better career either. That's the point. The position is entirely too volatile to assume the rookie you have now is the guy you win with.
- Michael Ghofrani


Exactly why you shouldnโ€™t pay big assets for it.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jun 6 @ 4:17 PM ET
Sure, Hart might end up having the better career, and that's my point. He is another lottery ticket. He has a higher draft position and flashes of being very good... that isn't enough for me to throw a massive package to get. I think the better teams have multiple lottery tickets and the best you can do is hope one of them takes off (particularly in the playoffs).
- Slump Buster

Goalies are what they are. Draft position means absolutely nothing.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 6 @ 4:19 PM ET
Goalies are what they are. Draft position means absolutely nothing.
- TheHank


I agree completely, but not everyone does. I don't think that trade proposal is made if Levi and Hart swapped draft positions. People hang on to that stuff.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jun 6 @ 4:20 PM ET
Exactly why you shouldnโ€™t pay big assets for it.
- Swedish_Jesus

Flip it around at the same time. Its exactly why you shouldn't count on an unknown quantity.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jun 6 @ 4:21 PM ET
I agree completely, but not everyone does. I don't think that trade proposal is made if Levi and Hart swapped draft positions. People hang on to that stuff.
- Slump Buster

Yes they do. Any other position I think it makes sense just not for goaltenders.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 6 @ 4:23 PM ET
Flip it around at the same time. Its exactly why you shouldn't count on an unknown quantity.
- TheHank


I think unless you get one of the top 3 goalies, you kind of have to count on an unknown quantity. It seems like most of the league had their goaltending situations go sideways at some point, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing as the unexpected goalie ended up being *good enough*.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 6 @ 4:25 PM ET
Exactly why you shouldnโ€™t pay big assets for it.
- Swedish_Jesus

Also why you shouldnโ€™t yet count on Levi being an all starโ€ฆ..
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