No sense talking common sense with the excuse crew. You could hand them a bag of actual poop and they’d talk about where the poop came from and how great the smell of the poop is versus 30+ other piles of poop.

Sometimes insanity just can’t be fixed. Let them fester and plan new excuses in peace.
- optimus-reim

So... now you're leaving?. Fingers crossed.

dude has dementia and no longer can be prosecuted for rape.
- dmnted

Sad, he was "huge" in the VHS 📼 tape days.

Somebody got a splitshot of Treliving and Al Bundy? 😁
- THE EVIL WITHIN

I am working 💪 on it

🤷
- mjones242

I did say the looney bin was let out

The one thing I keep hearing is how respected he is around the league by other execs and GMs. This makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

I was mildly and angsty against signing him at first, but he's here now and so I'm going to switch to excited mode as it's something new and fresh. Will be fun to see what direction Tree Living decides to pivot to.

And let's be honest, "Tree Living" and "Maple Leafs" has some serious poetic synergy.
- mjones242

Agreed.

I really can't fathom how anyone can be bothered by this anymore.

I can understand the belief Dubas is the better GM and there could be other good options out there...but I am sorry fans have the tools to evaluate players decently but GMs nope.

Lets see what he can do.

Imho Shanny is now our GM. Treedying simply does the legwork.
- fifty__missions

This guy gets it.

Only modification I would make is Shanahan has been the GM since Lou left and Dubas was hired.

How many players from 2019 roster + others drafted by Tallon that had not made it yet are on the current roster.

Maybe 5?
- jribout

He was GM / Executive in some capacity from 2010-2020 in Florida.

Hyman, Donskoi, Petrovic, Bjugstad, Gudbranson, Huberdeau, Grimaldi, Trocheck, Matheson, Barkov, Weegar and Ekblad would be some of his best draft picks over that time period.

They still have Barkov and Ekblad and used Huberdeau and Weegar to acquire Tkachuk. He also signed Bob which a lot of people thought was stupid but right now, seems like it's worth it considering they're 4 wins away from a Cup. A lot of their most important pieces are directly because of Tallon.

Same goes for Chicago. Keith, Kane, Bolland, Bickell, Brouwer, Seabrook, Byfuglien, Hjalmarsson, Toews, Crawford; long, long list of high quality draft choices that yielded 3 Cups when he was either AGM or GM.

Even if it's not directly him who found these guys, he's shown he can create a team around him that can find high quality, Cup winning level players at every level in the draft. Even if he was the President and hired his own GM, this franchise would be in better hands than Shanahan and whatever puppet he has.

This guy gets it.

Only modification I would make is Shanahan has been the GM since Lou left and Dubas was hired.
- Rare_Jewel

They are gonna run this (frank)er back. Hard.

They are gonna run this (frank)er back. Hard.
- fifty__missions

Protected by the media (as usual) and eaten up by the true BeLeafers.

Why do I feel like I am reading the script from Grumpy old men?

Agreed.

I really can't fathom how anyone can be bothered by this anymore.

I can understand the belief Dubas is the better GM and there could be other good options out there...but I am sorry fans have the tools to evaluate players decently but GMs nope.

Lets see what he can do.
- Santo_44

He was GM / Executive in some capacity from 2010-2020 in Florida.

Hyman, Donskoi, Petrovic, Bjugstad, Gudbranson, Huberdeau, Grimaldi, Trocheck, Matheson, Barkov, Weegar and Ekblad would be some of his best draft picks over that time period.

They still have Barkov and Ekblad and used Huberdeau and Weegar to acquire Tkachuk. He also signed Bob which a lot of people thought was stupid but right now, seems like it's worth it considering they're 4 wins away from a Cup. A lot of their most important pieces are directly because of Tallon.

Same goes for Chicago. Keith, Kane, Bolland, Bickell, Brouwer, Seabrook, Byfuglien, Hjalmarsson, Toews, Crawford; long, long list of high quality draft choices that yielded 3 Cups when he was either AGM or GM.

Even if it's not directly him who found these guys, he's shown he can create a team around him that can find high quality, Cup winning level players at every level in the draft. Even if he was the President and hired his own GM, this franchise would be in better hands than Shanahan and whatever puppet he has.
- Rare_Jewel

Sam Bennett, Oliver Kylington, Andrew Mangiapane, Matt Tkachuk, Adam Fox, Dillon Dube in Trevilling's first 3 years

the boys are gonna get huge by bulking up on all of the free boston pizza

marner, 6'0, 255 at camp, book it

Why do I feel like I am reading the script from Grumpy old men?
- jribout

(frank) me.
Treliving?
(frank) 🤦🏼‍♂️

(frank) me.
Treliving?
(frank) 🤦🏼‍♂️
- .HOHO.

Same.

Gudas is UFA this summer.
- mjones242

The piece of poop can sign elsewhere

The piece of poop can sign elsewhere
- Fakepartofme

Or he can sign nowhere and every team can celebrate that.

Sam Bennett, Oliver Kylington, Andrew Mangiapane, Matt Tkachuk, Adam Fox, Dillon Dube in Trevilling's first 3 years
- jribout

He drafts high quality players and then trades the best ones so they can succeed somewhere else. Seems kind of Leafy.

Good for everybody else. Bad for his own team and it's total lack of playoff success in 9 years.

He's either a puppet to Shanahan or he's incompetent on his own.

Either way, it's a bad move for the Leafs if you actually want to win a Cup.

He drafts high quality players and then trades the best ones so they can succeed somewhere else. Seems kind of Leafy.

Good for everybody else. Bad for his own team and it's total lack of playoff success in 9 years.

He's either a puppet to Shanahan or he's incompetent on his own.

Either way, it's a bad move for the Leafs if you actually want to win a Cup.
- Rare_Jewel

Your narrative is so predictable.

Your narrative is so predictable.
- jribout

His handle is false advertising. Common poop would be more appropriate.

I have it on VERY good authority that Trevling wants Lindholm and is willing to move Nylander to get him.

Nylander, Jarnkrok, Robertson, prospect for Lindholm and Weegar.

Imho Shanny is now our GM. Treedying simply does the legwork.
- fifty__missions

Shanny got advice from Shapiro and Masai on how to executive.

I am not backreading 12 pages so if you discussed it then whatever.

Heard on the radio, apparently in the Treliving interview and other interviews Shanny made a point to say something like "I like what Keefe has done as a coach but you can fire him if you want".

If the rumours of Shanny telling/indicating the core 4 are "safe" and that he likes the coach, what actual major roster changes are we in for?

Which, this has nothing to do with Treliving, everything to do with Shanahan.