I am not backreading 12 pages so if you discussed it then whatever.

Heard on the radio, apparently in the Treliving interview and other interviews Shanny made a point to say something like "I like what Keefe has done as a coach but you can fire him if you want".

If the rumours of Shanny telling/indicating the core 4 are "safe" and that he likes the coach, what actual major roster changes are we in for?

Which, this has nothing to do with Treliving, everything to do with Shanahan.
- Aaron_85

The Core 4 has another full year. Some say that's a bad problem to have, others may think it gives them a lot of freedom, and gives the incoming GM a year to see what he thinks vs. "hey here's like ~50M worth of primo contracts you have to sort out".

I think though that the cap space will give him a chance to build around the core, but my guess is they're running it back.

Keefe could have a short leash too.

I know if I was taking over a team, I'd want some time to form my own opinion of what's working and what isn't.

Bill Cosby as the team physician?
- Monkeypunk

R Kelly as waterboy 👀

Your narrative is so predictable.
- jribout

The Leafs are predictably inept and predictably unsuccessful.

Sorry, but it's not narrative. It's reality.

The Leafs are predictably inept and predictably unsuccessful.

Sorry, but it's not narrative. It's reality.
- Rare_Jewel

So cheer for a new team. Or don't. Either way, you've been whining for a dozen pages. This place is not therapy, if you want something that resembles a real fix go to actual therapy.

Jesus, you used up all your whining wanting Dubas fired. Now you get what you get, stop sulking about it. 🤦

The Leafs are predictably inept and predictably unsuccessful.

Sorry, but it's not narrative. It's reality.
- Rare_Jewel

I did warn you

I did warn you
- optimus-reim

Same people, same group think. I know what they are. It's all good.

The Core 4 has another full year. Some say that's a bad problem to have, others may think it gives them a lot of freedom, and gives the incoming GM a year to see what he thinks vs. "hey here's like ~50M worth of primo contracts you have to sort out".

I think though that the cap space will give him a chance to build around the core, but my guess is they're running it b⁸ack.

Keefe could have a short leash too.

I know if I was taking over a team, I'd want some time to form my own opinion of what's working and what isn't.
- gravyface

I'll keep you on a short leash and keep you working 💪 👷‍♂️ 😉

Insanity if they keep Keefe. He's been in over his head since he got here. Just be done with him.

Keefe needs to go……and he is under contract for another year so won’t be teaming up with Dubas anywhere. When he is canned he still gets paid for next year and won’t be working anywhere while the Lwafs are paying him. See Babcock.
- Bullot

Most teams release the coach from the contract when they get another offer.

Mike Augello: Treliving To Be Named Leafs GM, Will Keefe Be Staying As Coach?
- mikeinbuffalo

fire shammy n kweef n tredying😡🤦🏿‍♂️!!!

hire tortz n trotz👍👊🏿!!!

what a (frank)ing joke 🤦‍♂️

edit: nice alliteration 👍🏿

You all should feel good about the hiring, look what a great job he's done as Panthers GM

Wait............

I don't know if Treliving is a good hire or not.

But, he does not seem to fit into the image of what you would expect the Leafs to do. Almost seems like an exact opposite image in terms of Leafs' expectations.

For that reason, maybe he will turn out to be a brilliant hire.

Treliving and Calgary parted ways on a mutual consent where it appeared that Treliving was taking the initiative to step away. Leads me to wonder if the move to the Leafs was not nearly as spontaneous as everyone first thought.

This party sucks

From the tweeter
"Friedman on SN says he doesn’t think Treliving want to make any changes to the core four, definitely doesn’t want to move Marner, believes he wants to make adjustments around them, especially on D. Treliving has a history of drafting and trading for D."

"Also says he believes Matthews sincerely wants to stay as well as Marner and Nylander."

Which is what I suggested a day or so ago. I could see Tree making changes on the back end. Sign some bigger skilled guys and trade out some of what we have.

Also get a new coach.

From the tweeter
"Friedman on SN says he doesn’t think Treliving want to make any changes to the core four, definitely doesn’t want to move Marner, believes he wants to make adjustments around them, especially on D. Treliving has a history of drafting and trading for D."

"Also says he believes Matthews sincerely wants to stay as well as Marner and Nylander."
- Fakepartofme

O. IC. Rielly and package for Karlsson and package salary retained, here we goooooooooo

Also Tree tried to trade Brodie for Kadri. I expect Brodie's days are numbered.

From the tweeter
"Friedman on SN says he doesn’t think Treliving want to make any changes to the core four, definitely doesn’t want to move Marner, believes he wants to make adjustments around them, especially on D. Treliving has a history of drafting and trading for D."

"Also says he believes Matthews sincerely wants to stay as well as Marner and Nylander."

Which is what I suggested a day or so ago. I could see Tree making changes on the back end. Sign some bigger skilled guys and trade out some of what we have.

Also get a new coach.
- Fakepartofme

Agree

Bigger and meaner and a big LW - Crouse for a lifetime supply of pucks.

I don't know if Treliving is a good hire or not.

But, he does not seem to fit into the image of what you would expect the Leafs to do. Almost seems like an exact opposite image in terms of Leafs' expectations.

For that reason, maybe he will turn out to be a brilliant hire.

Treliving and Calgary parted ways on a mutual consent where it appeared that Treliving was taking the initiative to step away. Leads me to wonder if the move to the Leafs was not nearly as spontaneous as everyone first thought.
- spatso

If the Sens contend for a playoff spot next season they will have a great year and return to being top 5 in NHL team attendance.

Ottawa/Gatineau has a deep pool of wealth and the highest average household income in Canada. They will gift millions of $000 in Sens Christmas swag next year.

Ryan Reynolds will be with the team in Sweden on opening night and he will have multiple cameras focussed on the young Sens.

I think both Dorion and Smith remain with the team, although Dorion has his powers adjusted for a new boss that comes in over top of him.

DeBrincat is moved and the cap space is used for a power forward and goaltender.

Leafs offer up Marner for Brady Tkachuk.

Dorion is told by his new boss not answer any phone call with a 416 area code.
- spatso

From the tweeter
"Friedman on SN says he doesn’t think Treliving want to make any changes to the core four, definitely doesn’t want to move Marner, believes he wants to make adjustments around them, especially on D. Treliving has a history of drafting and trading for D."

"Also says he believes Matthews sincerely wants to stay as well as Marner and Nylander."

Which is what I suggested a day or so ago. I could see Tree making changes on the back end. Sign some bigger skilled guys and trade out some of what we have.

Also get a new coach.
- Fakepartofme

Nice.

If the Sens contend for a playoff spot next season they will have a great year and return to being top 5 in NHL team attendance.

Ottawa/Gatineau has a deep pool of wealth and the highest average household income in Canada. They will gift millions of $000 in Sens Christmas swag next year.

Ryan Reynolds will be with the team in Sweden on opening night and he will have multiple cameras focussed on the young Sens.

I think both Dorion and Smith remain with the team, although Dorion has his powers adjusted for a new boss that comes in over top of him.

DeBrincat is moved and the cap space is used for a power forward and goaltender.

Leafs offer up Marner for Brady Tkachuk.

Dorion is told by his new boss not answer any phone call with a 416 area code.
- spatso




- winsix

Dubious take at best, smells simply not believable

If the Sens contend for a playoff spot next season they will have a great year and return to being top 5 in NHL team attendance.

Ottawa/Gatineau has a deep pool of wealth and the highest average household income in Canada. They will gift millions of $000 in Sens Christmas swag next year.

Ryan Reynolds will be with the team in Sweden on opening night and he will have multiple cameras focussed on the young Sens.

I think both Dorion and Smith remain with the team, although Dorion has his powers adjusted for a new boss that comes in over top of him.

DeBrincat is moved and the cap space is used for a power forward and goaltender.

Leafs offer up Marner for Brady Tkachuk.

Dorion is told by his new boss not answer any phone call with a 416 area code.
- spatso




- winsix

A beauty plan to say the least.
LOL
I love the creativity of some.

So it's June.
No shiny new toy today.
But hey! We get a shiny headed new guy to play with the toys we already have!
I'm kinda looking forward to it

Outside of extending Matthews, Tree has to get rid of that huge dubas mistake in Murray.
That contract has to go and it could cost us.
What a waste of money.

R Kelly as waterboy 👀
- joel878

Dude.

Laviolette please

From the tweeter
"Friedman on SN says he doesn’t think Treliving want to make any changes to the core four, definitely doesn’t want to move Marner, believes he wants to make adjustments around them, especially on D. Treliving has a history of drafting and trading for D."

"Also says he believes Matthews sincerely wants to stay as well as Marner and Nylander."

Which is what I suggested a day or so ago. I could see Tree making changes on the back end. Sign some bigger skilled guys and trade out some of what we have.

Also get a new coach.
- Fakepartofme

Unfortunate. I'd hope to be pleasantly surprised but to me that would be just burning another year. It's time for a significant change.