For PLD with what has supposedly been put out there WPG cannot ask for a whole lot and something is better than nothing.
They might be willing to take on warm bodies for their roster rather than just watch him leave. I HOPE HuGo can talk them into taking Dvorak, Armia and maybe a B prospect and a pick. Don't see why MTL would have to pay a huge price when other teams know where PLD wants to go, unless they can sign him LT prior to a trade WPG will not be getting market price for PLD
- braidan

There will be multiple teams bidding. Don't believe for a second that Montreal will be the only team on his list of possible destinations. His agent said as much last year. Canadiens are being played if they believe other teams and big dollars will stay on the sidelines. Lots of possible considerations. But keep it simple. When it comes time to put pen to paper it will be about the numbers following the $US dollar sign.

For PLD with what has supposedly been put out there WPG cannot ask for a whole lot and something is better than nothing.
They might be willing to take on warm bodies for their roster rather than just watch him leave. I HOPE HuGo can talk them into taking Dvorak, Armia and maybe a B prospect and a pick. Don't see why MTL would have to pay a huge price when other teams know where PLD wants to go, unless they can sign him LT prior to a trade WPG will not be getting market price for PLD
- braidan

I can see Dvorak being part of the package, as they will need to replace a hole at center, but nor Armia (they been there, they done that). The Jets will likely want to shed some additional contracts as part of any deal, so they can use that cap space to trade elsewhere (or try to sign FAs).

I suspect it will take a pick and a lower level prospect to make it work.

But I also do not see the need to give the Jets that much in return, as they are pretty much screwed (unless they find some other sucker willing to take a chance on PLD).

That being said, if I am HuGo, I want to understand what type of $$$ PLD is asking for, before making that trade. If he wants $9M+ per year, I pass.

As I said previously, with current sanction that is unlikely to happen.

Even if his KHL team was interested in doing so.
- Mashadar

Are you talking the war issue, and sanctions on Russian players? I was unaware there were any....

Are you talking the war issue, and sanctions on Russian players? I was unaware there were any....
- Frozendisc

Sanction on money entering Russia, or doing business with entities in that country.

Likely, at some point.

Too many changes coming to the roster over the summer to get a feel for how the lines may shake out at this point, IMO.
- Mashadar

Tell me about it.

PLD to be traded very soon.

La montre est a on

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- Pat1993

For PLD with what has supposedly been put out there WPG cannot ask for a whole lot and something is better than nothing.
They might be willing to take on warm bodies for their roster rather than just watch him leave. I HOPE HuGo can talk them into taking Dvorak, Armia and maybe a B prospect and a pick. Don't see why MTL would have to pay a huge price when other teams know where PLD wants to go, unless they can sign him LT prior to a trade WPG will not be getting market price for PLD
- braidan

top rentals get better return than that, so fans can stop that or keep dreaming I guess

top rentals get better return than that, so fans can stop that or keep dreaming I guess
- deadpoulet

the only way that kind of scenario would work is that WPG is truly handcuffed by the habs because MTL is literally the only team on PLD's list of possible destinations, which I highly doubt.

the only way that kind of scenario would work is that WPG is truly handcuffed by the habs because MTL is literally the only team on PLD's list of possible destinations, which I highly doubt.
- Pat1993

there is buying low and there is fleecing the other GM

pretty sure he will submit a short list of teams he would accept a trade to

it does not mean he would be willing to sign long term with that team either, but I dont think its monteal and nothing else this summer either

there is buying low and there is fleecing the other GM

pretty sure he will submit a short list of teams he would accept a trade to

it does not mean he would be willing to sign long term with that team either, but I dont think its monteal and nothing else this summer either
- deadpoulet

The only way the Jets can get out of this with a significant haul is if they do a sign/trade (to get an 8th year) or let the other team agree to a contact first.

Then I can see the return being fairly significant.

Otherwise, I would not expect the big return some talking heads are mentioning.

The only way the Jets can get out of this with a significant haul is if they do a sign/trade (to get an 8th year) or let the other team agree to a contact first.

Then I can see the return being fairly significant.

Otherwise, I would not expect the big return some talking heads are mentioning.
- Mashadar

they wont get full value but people are going the other way about this

even as a rental, winnipeg would get a first round pick + for him, just like we see every seasons at the trade deadline

- deadpoulet

i know the "a red sky at night is a sailor's delight" saying. but what if everything is red?

The only way the Jets can get out of this with a significant haul is if they do a sign/trade (to get an 8th year) or let the other team agree to a contact first.

Then I can see the return being fairly significant.

Otherwise, I would not expect the big return some talking heads are mentioning.
- Mashadar

I'll go with Dvorak, Mailloux and FLA 1st. final offer

I'll go with Dvorak, Mailloux and FLA 1st. final offer
- fidopro

trade a LHD, not a RHD, Habs lack depth on the right side and have a surplus on the left side.

It is always about the money and Dubois' agent will leverage his situation into the best after tax dollar result he is able to negotiate. Watch to see an announcement that Dubois has offered up a list of teams where he is ready to negotiate. This actually works pretty good for both player and team. Players gets effective UFA status one year sooner. Team gets to auction prime asset in a narrow but lucrative market.

Dubois will get $9m. x 8 and is worth every penny.

Folks who will be the most unhappy will be the UFAs coming to market only to discover that the real money is in the bidding market for players like Dubois, DeBrincat et. al. who are going to force the envelope similar to the Tkachuk negotiations of last summer. Huge leverage given to top players (eg., Auston Matthews) to dictate outcomes. On the other hand, if you are an older guy who has just gained UFA status you will be really unhappy watching these younger guys steal your money.
- spatso

If you think Dubois is worth 9 mill for 8 years, I have a beautiful property in Florida I'd like to sell you. Probably a good thing you're not the Senators GM!

trade a LHD, not a RHD, Habs lack depth on the right side and have a surplus on the left side.
- Symba007

I know, but Hughes knows Harris, Mailloux traîne des casseroles...

If you think Dubois is worth 9 mill for 8 years, I have a beautiful property in Florida I'd like to sell you. Probably a good thing you're not the Senators GM!

- Jrw10

PLD won't get more than Suzuki, not in MTL en tous cas

If you think Dubois is worth 9 mill for 8 years, I have a beautiful property in Florida I'd like to sell you. Probably a good thing you're not the Senators GM!

- Jrw10

they wont get full value but people are going the other way about this

even as a rental, winnipeg would get a first round pick + for him, just like we see every seasons at the trade deadline
- deadpoulet

So we wait until next year when he hits UFA and then we can make an offer and not lose prospects. I'd love to dump some salary for him tho

So we wait until next year when he hits UFA and then we can make an offer and not lose prospects. I'd love to dump some salary for him tho
- braidan

sure you would, but you have to see the other side here

mtl does not really need cap space short term anyway

I would even expect Hughes to try to take a one year contract to get another pick or a prospect

mantha is an option I have seen thrown around here, but I am sure a lot of teams would like some cap relief (LA Kings just made some room themselves)

sure you would, but you have to see the other side here

mtl does not really need cap space short term anyway

I would even expect Hughes to try to take a one year contract to get another pick or a prospect

mantha is an option I have seen thrown around here, but I am sure a lot of teams would like some cap relief (LA Kings just made some room themselves)
- deadpoulet

the problem with taking a contract is that it also takes a spot on the roster. I prefer to keep these for kids. they already have more than enough forwards signed to NHL contracts.

So we wait until next year when he hits UFA and then we can make an offer and not lose prospects. I'd love to dump some salary for him tho
- braidan

Few more contracts coming off the books after this year (at the latest) in Hoffman and Edmundson. Plus only 1 years on a few other contracts (Dvorak, Armia, Savard), so there will be cap space available in the next few off seasons to sign up who we want to keep long-term.

the problem with taking a contract is that it also takes a spot on the roster. I prefer to keep these for kids. they already have more than enough forwards signed to NHL contracts.
- fidopro

PLD might be a bad influence on the “kids” as well, with his attitude and prior history with his eternal malcontent ……

I couldn’t care less if we signed him or not. Too early in the rebuild if you ask me. And $9 million for 62-63 points??? Pass