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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 13 @ 10:46 AM ET
He had his stretches. He also played 25 of 32 against playoff teams.

Where Anderson only played 10 of 24 against playoff teams.

- DirtyDan

stop it



DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jun 13 @ 10:49 AM ET
stop it




- homiedclown




homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 13 @ 10:50 AM ET

- DirtyDan

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 10:59 AM ET
in 87-88 grant fuhr won the vezina

3.43 GAA
.881 save percentage

not in the top 10 for either of those stats

went 40-24-9 for win loss record

https://www.hockey-refere...com/leagues/NHL_1988.html

6k was what 17-11-4? last year?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:03 AM ET
in 87-88 grant fuhr won the vezina

3.43 GAA
.881 save percentage

not in the top 10 for either of those stats

went 40-24-9 for win loss record

https://www.hockey-refere...com/leagues/NHL_1988.html

6k was what 17-11-4? last year?

- homiedclown



Mmmm because 1980s and early 1990s hockey and 2023 hockey are very similar.

Hell goalies didn’t move in 1988 and didn’t go down in the butterfly.

They stuck a leg pad out to hopefully stop the puck.

See infamous May Day goal
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 13 @ 11:06 AM ET
Interesting read on The Athletic about Ron Hextall's time in Pitt. On the surface it is easy to classify Hextall as an awful GM (because he is), but the thing in Pitt was not all his fault. The plan when he became GM was to (rightly) not sign Letang, Malkin and some of the other grey beards. When the new ownership came in, they mandated that the vets be re-signed. I can't imagine paying those guys into their 40s. Either way, that franchise is going to be screwed for years.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 13 @ 11:07 AM ET
Mmmm because 1980s and early 1990s hockey and 2023 hockey are very similar.

Hell goalies didn’t move in 1988 and didn’t go down in the butterfly.

They stuck a leg pad out to hopefully stop the puck.

See infamous May Day goal

- ImThatGuy

fuhr was 26th in GAA
22nd in save percentage that year


sather didn't care about the stats, other than the wins
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 13 @ 11:08 AM ET
Mmmm because 1980s and early 1990s hockey and 2023 hockey are very similar.

Hell goalies didn’t move in 1988 and didn’t go down in the butterfly.

They stuck a leg pad out to hopefully stop the puck.

See infamous May Day goal

- ImThatGuy


2023 was actually the closest we've come to the 80s in a long time. 80s hockey was glorious, but I digress...

Not sure why you think that goal was a good example of your point. May deked the goalie on a breakaway - I don't think a breakaway is where a goalie will be going into the butterfly.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 13 @ 11:10 AM ET
fuhr was 26th in GAA
22nd in save percentage that year


sather didn't care about the stats, other than the wins

- homiedclown


I think what people forget about those teams is that - even though they had ridiculous offensive talent - they could lock it down in the finals.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 13 @ 11:11 AM ET
NOBODY has every accused me of being that before....

- hehateme


You have now been both accused and convicted of being smart.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jun 13 @ 11:11 AM ET
in 87-88 grant fuhr won the vezina

3.43 GAA
.881 save percentage

not in the top 10 for either of those stats

went 40-24-9 for win loss record

https://www.hockey-refere...com/leagues/NHL_1988.html

6k was what 17-11-4? last year?

- homiedclown


Imagine how many more games we would have won if we didn’t need to score 4 or 5 just to win with him in net.



Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jun 13 @ 11:14 AM ET
Interesting read on The Athletic about Ron Hextall's time in Pitt. On the surface it is easy to classify Hextall as an awful GM (because he is), but the thing in Pitt was not all his fault. The plan when he became GM was to (rightly) not sign Letang, Malkin and some of the other grey beards. When the new ownership came in, they mandated that the vets be re-signed. I can't imagine paying those guys into their 40s. Either way, that franchise is going to be screwed for years.
- Slump Buster


Except Crosby, Malkin, and Letang weren’t issues.

Why did Hextall trade John Marino for nothing ? He lost the Mike Matheson trade.

Decided his big offseason add would be a 400 year old Jeff Petry and his big deadline move was a declining Mikael Granlund.

If he had just done nothing at all, the Pens very well would have made the playoffs.

His activity created an even worse roster
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 11:15 AM ET
2023 was actually the closest we've come to the 80s in a long time. 80s hockey was glorious, but I digress...

Not sure why you think that goal was a good example of your point. May deked the goalie on a breakaway - I don't think a breakaway is where a goalie will be going into the butterfly.

- Slump Buster



Okay fine. See any goal scored in 1988-1993
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 11:16 AM ET
Imagine how many more games we would have won if we didn’t need to score 4 or 5 just to win with him in net.
- Swedish_Jesus


We had to do that in 18 of 24 games with Anderson.

Our team wasn't very defensive...
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 13 @ 11:16 AM ET
That post was towards you dummies not liking Ullmark back in the day. And now are praying for a goalie to put up league average #'s. We had a top goalie in the league but you guys couldn't see it.

UPL is far better than you guys give him credit for. Hes young. He's inconsistent. If he can find that consistency I believe he could be a good goalie in this league.

I've also stated just last week it would be a bad idea to role those 2 out there this year if the goal is the playoffs which I hope it is.

- DirtyDan


Good post

Upl puts the Sabres in a bind kinda.

Do they stay the course and play kids important minutes?

Do they upgrade a very crucial position, even a few extra points with a veteran?

I think it's still open to discussion
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 11:17 AM ET
Imagine how many more games we would have won if we didn’t need to score 4 or 5 just to win with him in net.
- Swedish_Jesus


The Sabres won despite UPL not because of UPL.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
The Sabres won despite UPL not because of UPL.
- ImThatGuy


You can say that with all their goalies. None of them were superb
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
You can say that with all their goalies. None of them were superb
- DirtyDan

Yes and that’s a massive problem.

Hence the you know trying to trade for a goalie discussion.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 13 @ 11:18 AM ET
Except Crosby, Malkin, and Letang weren’t issues.

Why did Hextall trade John Marino for nothing ? He lost the Mike Matheson trade.

Decided his big offseason add would be a 400 year old Jeff Petry and his big deadline move was a declining Mikael Granlund.

If he had just done nothing at all, the Pens very well would have made the playoffs.

His activity created an even worse roster

- Swedish_Jesus


Well, right. The original mistake was to bring back the vets on terrible contracts. He then doubled down on that by making some unbelievably bad mistakes in the offseason and later in the season at the deadline. I don't know what they were thinking by hiring him in the first place - he had already shown that he was a bad GM with terrible people skills.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 13 @ 11:19 AM ET
Imagine how many more games we would have won if we didn’t need to score 4 or 5 just to win with him in net.
- Swedish_Jesus

did he deny you an autograph?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 13 @ 11:20 AM ET
The Sabres won despite UPL not because of UPL.
- ImThatGuy


He certainly wasn't great at times last year, but he did legit steal a handful of victories last year. For whatever reason, the team seemed to play better when he was in net. He wasn't great last year but he did have a good winning percentage. That isn't everything, but it isn't nothing either.

Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jun 13 @ 11:21 AM ET
We had to do that in 18 of 24 games with Anderson.

Our team wasn't very defensive...

- DirtyDan


Except Anderson had very good metrics despite that, at least until his age caught up to him and the wheels fell off just after the All-Star game.

Levi had the one stinker in Detroit, but it says a lot that he was able to come in and the team went on the run and he had good numbers despite that.

Says a lot about UPL too that some kid came right out of college and stole his job.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
What evidence suggests that UPL will be good?
Was it his 4 straight years of stellar AHL numbers?

Was it his stellar underlying NHL numbers?

I just don’t see it.

I see a goalie who has slowed, probably due to injury.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
UPL and Comrie had near identical regular and fancy stats but I don't see anyone proposing Comrie as a good idea this year
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
Well, right. The original mistake was to bring back the vets on terrible contracts. He then doubled down on that by making some unbelievably bad mistakes in the offseason and later in the season at the deadline. I don't know what they were thinking by hiring him in the first place - he had already shown that he was a bad GM with terrible people skills.
- Slump Buster
part of the biggest problem was before hextall arrived

https://www.hockeydb.com/...aft/teams/dr00007475.html

look at their drafts for the last 10 years

blah players

and many picks moved for deadline deals

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