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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 14 @ 7:09 AM ET
Casey is a perfect case in point. He is now a decent player, use him this season to further build his value, then trade at the TDL and plug in the next guy. Olofsson is the same, but trade him now and let another youngin come in...then Okie next season, Girgensons this season as well. Skinner in 3 years time. Maybe Tuch as well, when his contract comes up (it is why I wouldn't mind getting But, or Sale, even the Buffalo kid). Lyubushkin next season with Johnson, maybe their newly acquired top 4 Dman if he has 2 years on a contract left.
No need to keep these expensive players if they have suitable replacements.

Keep rolling this roster. Keep drafting , but eventually that pool becomes weaker due to draft positions.

That doesn't mean no trades of prospects...just be smart on who to include.
Use Mitts, Joker, Olo, UPL

- IonSabres

I hope they keep drafting and hitting on them, that's what good Organizations do. I think there's been a few on here, that have talked about building up the Depth in the Organization for Years. Me and You included, but also gets to the point we're you need to start using some of those assets to strengthen a weak spot that might need upgrades. IMO the Sabres are at that point.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 14 @ 7:12 AM ET
Yes it is fruitful. But when you have a core that is basically 25 and younger some of those good prospects aren't gonna see the ice. Where do they fit, you can't have them waiting for 4 or 5yrs, that's bad asset management.
- Buff36


Casey is a perfect case in point. He is now a decent player, use him this season to further build his value, then trade at the TDL and plug in the next guy. Olofsson is the same, but trade him now and let another youngin come in...then Okie next season, Girgensons this season as well. Skinner in 3 years time. Maybe Tuch as well, when his contract comes up (it is why I wouldn't mind getting But, or Sale, even the Buffalo kid). Lyubushkin next season with Johnson, maybe their newly acquired top 4 Dman if he has 2 years on a contract left.
No need to keep these expensive players if they have suitable replacements.

Keep rolling this roster. Keep drafting , but eventually that pool becomes weaker due to draft positions.

That doesn't mean no trades of prospects...just be smart on who to include.
Use Mitts, Joker, Olo, UPL
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 14 @ 7:21 AM ET
Casey is a perfect case in point. He is now a decent player, use him this season to further build his value, then trade at the TDL and plug in the next guy. Olofsson is the same, but trade him now and let another youngin come in...then Okie next season, Girgensons this season as well. Skinner in 3 years time. Maybe Tuch as well, when his contract comes up (it is why I wouldn't mind getting But, or Sale, even the Buffalo kid). Lyubushkin next season with Johnson, maybe their newly acquired top 4 Dman if he has 2 years on a contract left.
No need to keep these expensive players if they have suitable replacements.

Keep rolling this roster. Keep drafting , but eventually that pool becomes weaker due to draft positions.

That doesn't mean no trades of prospects...just be smart on who to include.
Use Mitts, Joker, Olo, UPL

- IonSabres

Other than Mitts maybe, what are the other 3 gonna get unless you add a nice sweetener
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 14 @ 7:25 AM ET
Eichel - 1
Process - 0
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 14 @ 7:35 AM ET
Eichel - 1
Process - 0

- feetontheair22

Who cares, he's gone. Hopefully are Team raises a Cup soon.
sammysam13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Most of these posters stink!, NC
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:43 AM ET
Who cares, he's gone. Hopefully are Team raises a Cup soon.
- Buff36

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 14 @ 7:45 AM ET

- sammysam13

That's all we are gonna hear for the next couple days.
sammysam13
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Most of these posters stink!, NC
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 14 @ 7:49 AM ET
That's all we are gonna hear for the next couple days.
- Buff36


I know! Was he not an issue? Remember the joy the team had when goals were scored? All those frowns? oh the memories. I so wish he were still here leading us to a top 3/pick.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 14 @ 8:02 AM ET
Casey is a perfect case in point. He is now a decent player, use him this season to further build his value, then trade at the TDL and plug in the next guy. Olofsson is the same, but trade him now and let another youngin come in...then Okie next season, Girgensons this season as well. Skinner in 3 years time. Maybe Tuch as well, when his contract comes up (it is why I wouldn't mind getting But, or Sale, even the Buffalo kid). Lyubushkin next season with Johnson, maybe their newly acquired top 4 Dman if he has 2 years on a contract left.
No need to keep these expensive players if they have suitable replacements.

Keep rolling this roster. Keep drafting , but eventually that pool becomes weaker due to draft positions.

That doesn't mean no trades of prospects...just be smart on who to include.
Use Mitts, Joker, Olo, UPL

- IonSabres


So basically never resign anyone. Always be selling.

Yea that seems like it’ll work.

Might as well just trade Dahlin now….. he’s gona be exspesive.
sgk56
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.16.2019

Jun 14 @ 8:05 AM ET
https://twitter.com/maxwellmarko/status/1668651750121766916?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Found out why Diggs isn't at Camp!!

- Buff36

LOL
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 14 @ 8:09 AM ET
That's all we are gonna hear for the next couple days.
- Buff36

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 14 @ 8:12 AM ET

- homiedclown

Don't think Diggs likes Dorsey
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 14 @ 8:13 AM ET
Eichel - 1
Process - 0

- feetontheair22


Where have you been?

It's been established in here that winning a Stanley Cup the way Vegas did isn't as successful as building through the draft and hoarding prospects that all play similar styles of the game.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 14 @ 8:36 AM ET
Where have you been?

It's been established in here that winning a Stanley Cup the way Vegas did isn't as successful as building through the draft and hoarding prospects that all play similar styles of the game.

- washedup20


All joking aside, the point that Vegas benefitted from very favorable expansion draft rules is a a valid one. The real issue with the Buffalo Sabres is the ability to manage personalities. Jack Eichel was supposedly an entitled, spoiled brat (i.e. he acted like 95% of superstars in sports). Vegas figured out how to win a championship with said entitled, spoiled brat, while the Sabres are still praying that there are enough guys good enough simply get them into the playoffs that also "want to be here". I gave them a pass for the O'Reilly trade, thinking he needed a change of scenery as much as the Sabres needed to move on from him. But, now you have guys like not only Eichel, but even Reinhart and Montour as well, thriving once they leave here. It's an epidemic.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 14 @ 8:44 AM ET
Where have you been?

It's been established in here that winning a Stanley Cup the way Vegas did isn't as successful as building through the draft and hoarding prospects that all play similar styles of the game.

- washedup20


It's obviously successful. All Terry has to do is pay the league a cool billy and we can draft a contender from around the league then negotiate with players so we can keep them on LTIR and go 14M over the cap. It's a good roadmap.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 14 @ 8:50 AM ET
It's obviously successful. All Terry has to do is pay the league a cool billy and we can draft a contender from around the league then negotiate with players so we can keep them on LTIR and go 14M over the cap. It's a good roadmap.
- RhinoFan


I don't understand the sour grapes over this. I would be thrilled if my team was half as shrewd and aggressive enough to figure this out.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 14 @ 8:52 AM ET
I don't understand the sour grapes over this. I would be thrilled if my team was half as shrewd and aggressive enough to figure this out.
- buffalofan19

Exactly
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 14 @ 9:00 AM ET
I don't understand the sour grapes over this. I would be thrilled if my team was half as shrewd and aggressive enough to figure this out.
- buffalofan19


To each their own, I find it's circumventing established rules. I'm actually kind of floored that the league didn't do something immediately when Tampa started pulling this. Bad for the league either way.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 14 @ 9:14 AM ET
Eichel - 1
Process - 0

- feetontheair22


Vegas was already a cup contending team before he got traded to them.


I am honestly not mad about Eichel winning. I thought I would be bummed. But watching Vegas in general ….. that team was so much fun to watch and so darn good. It was hard to not like them. Even with Eichel.

My girlfriend who hates watching hockey in person mentioned how entertaining they were to watch. Like she legitimately watched and didn’t fall asleep bored
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 14 @ 9:16 AM ET

- homiedclown



I told my buddy this yesterday


Who cares. He’s not being moved ….. he’s not being released …… he’s paid extremely well.

He will be playing on the Bills week 1
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 14 @ 9:21 AM ET
That's kinda what I meant, Sabres can afford to use a couple good forward prospects to strengthen other area's. Sabres have a lot of prospects and they have a bunch more coming. I am just saying they can make a big trade if they choose to and survive it, they have the assets, especially with such a young team in place already.
- Buff36


Agreed.
I just want to make that trade with soon to be expensive players rather than top prospect selections.
I would suspect acquiring a top4 Dman and a 1A Goalie will hit the Cap a combined $8m minimum (now or on the next contract if shorter term remaining).
Going to need some youngins on ELC's soon enough.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 14 @ 9:27 AM ET
https://profootballtalk.n...-but-far-from-impossible/

Told ya June 1st was important. Significantly less cap hit in a trade. Told ya.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 14 @ 9:28 AM ET
To each their own, I find it's circumventing established rules. I'm actually kind of floored that the league didn't do something immediately when Tampa started pulling this. Bad for the league either way.
- RhinoFan


It is not circumventing anything, especially with a cap limit that hasn't moved much in years.

Vegas and Tampa are playing by the rules adjudicated by the league.

It sure would be nice were the Sabres to ever get to that point.

They don't give you an extra Stanley Cup for being the team to win with the lowest cap hit, or best overall cap appropriation.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 14 @ 9:28 AM ET
So basically never resign anyone. Always be selling.

Yea that seems like it’ll work.

Might as well just trade Dahlin now….. he’s gona be exspesive.

- ImThatGuy


You live in Alabama...grey clouds?

Yes, exactly right.
Retain the Core, replace other expensive players with good young talent on ELC's and Bridge deals. You will realize eventually it is true.

The Core can be 9, 10, 11 players
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 14 @ 9:48 AM ET
Casey is a perfect case in point. He is now a decent player, use him this season to further build his value, then trade at the TDL and plug in the next guy. Olofsson is the same, but trade him now and let another youngin come in...then Okie next season, Girgensons this season as well. Skinner in 3 years time. Maybe Tuch as well, when his contract comes up (it is why I wouldn't mind getting But, or Sale, even the Buffalo kid). Lyubushkin next season with Johnson, maybe their newly acquired top 4 Dman if he has 2 years on a contract left.
No need to keep these expensive players if they have suitable replacements.

Keep rolling this roster. Keep drafting , but eventually that pool becomes weaker due to draft positions.

That doesn't mean no trades of prospects...just be smart on who to include.
Use Mitts, Joker, Olo, UPL

- IonSabres



Good post

So your not trading 3 top pieces for helly or 2 top pieces for hart?

We need those pieces to replace from within.

Disagree on tuch, he's an alltime keeper IMO
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