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Freddie krug
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dryden, ON
Joined: 11.17.2020

Jun 15 @ 9:13 AM ET
Winning the cup is a true indicator of who won trades. As of today the Eichel and ROR trades are down. When Tuch and Tage lift the cup in 3 or 4 years the trades can be reevaluated.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:19 AM ET
Aren't you are HB selection for his draft on here. What's the word ?
- Buff36


I volunteered yes.

Answer is BPA, right
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:21 AM ET
Winning the cup is a true indicator of who won trades. As of today the Eichel and ROR trades are down. When Tuch and Tage lift the cup in 3 or 4 years the trades can be reevaluated.
- Freddie krug


So in 94, when the Rangers traded away Tony Amonte to the Hawks for peanuts, that was a actually a good trade because the Rangers won the cup anyways?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:28 AM ET
Interesting, don't see any Big names there from the prospect pool
- Buff36


Ya know what's always humorous to me? All of these trade proposals with all these top notch prospects. I'm going to scroll through the trade tracker from June 15th, 2022 to right this very second and identify every single "A" prospect that was traded:


-Vitali Kravtsov (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111)
-Aatu Raty for Bo Horvat, came with a cap dump. He was probably the Islanders best prospect, which doesn't really say that much. Maybe he's a B+.
-Ben Bishop, and that's cheating because that was June 10th.

That's the whole list.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 15 @ 9:28 AM ET
I volunteered yes.

Answer is BPA, right

- IonSabres

No, well yeah. But that's to easy. Give me a few scenarios you might pull out.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:29 AM ET
I didn't have a lot of faith in Appert but he's done some really good things down there.
- TheSabresTaco

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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:29 AM ET
No, well yeah. But that's to easy. Give me a few scenarios you might pull out.
- Buff36

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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:30 AM ET
So in 94, when the Rangers traded away Tony Amonte to the Hawks for peanuts, that was a actually a good trade because the Rangers won the cup anyways?
- RhinoFan


Christ, Hasek for peanuts was an awful trade for Buffalo
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:30 AM ET
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- jochfr


why do you hate orgasms
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 15 @ 9:31 AM ET
Ya know what's always humorous to me? All of these trade proposals with all these top notch prospects. I'm going to scroll through the trade tracker from June 15th, 2022 to right this very second and identify every single "A" prospect that was traded:


-Vitali Kravtsov (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111)
-Aatu Raty for Bo Horvat, came with a cap dump. He was probably the Islanders best prospect, which doesn't really say that much. Maybe he's a B+.
-Ben Bishop, and that's cheating because that was June 10th.

That's the whole list.

- TheSabresTaco

Tell me who was traded for Fiala or Manson. Hasn't been a goalie worth what Saros will cost.
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Jun 15 @ 9:32 AM ET
Winning the cup is a true indicator of who won trades. As of today the Eichel and ROR trades are down. When Tuch and Tage lift the cup in 3 or 4 years the trades can be reevaluated.
- Freddie krug

So you're a Knights fan now?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:36 AM ET
Tell me who was traded for Fiala or Manson. Hasn't been a goalie worth what Saros will cost.
- Buff36


Fiala was Brock Faber. Not an A prospect.

Josh Manson was traded for your boy Drew Helleson. He isn't considered a top 15 prospects in the Ducks org.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 15 @ 9:38 AM ET
We may have seriously underestimated how much buying power Mittelstadt has as a trade chip. The analytics community has now joined the chat.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:38 AM ET
Who would probably be used for high end offers:

Rosen, Neuchev, Novikov, Kisakov, Poltapov, Nadeau and Lindgren.

If you're thinking Ryan Johnson, don't bother.
Freddie krug
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dryden, ON
Joined: 11.17.2020

Jun 15 @ 9:39 AM ET
So in 94, when the Rangers traded away Tony Amonte to the Hawks for peanuts, that was a actually a good trade because the Rangers won the cup anyways?
- RhinoFan


IMO if you are a GM every trade you make should be with the thought of winning the cup now and secondly securing the future to once again win the cup.
KA will never be in a better situation to make this happen then now. He has to stop with the baby steps and run run run.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:39 AM ET
We may have seriously underestimated how much buying power Mittelstadt has as a trade chip. The analytics community has now joined the chat.
- Hank Balling

Freddie krug
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dryden, ON
Joined: 11.17.2020

Jun 15 @ 9:42 AM ET
So you're a Knights fan now?
- RichardRoma


If that's what you get out of that I guess I could be a Blues fan who now is a Knights fan posing as a Sabres fan. Could be a Panthers fan next year
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:44 AM ET
Mitts going megamode certainly opens up some really interesting trade props. Can he be used to grab a guy like Cernak? Backfill him with Bertuzzi, you still have a spot for a prospects with Olofsson out of the way.

I dunno, could be cool.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 15 @ 9:44 AM ET
Fiala was Brock Faber. Not an A prospect.

Josh Manson was traded for your boy Drew Helleson. He isn't considered a top 15 prospects in the Ducks org.

- TheSabresTaco

That's cool, looks like it could be cheaper than I am expecting if Adams does anything.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:44 AM ET
We may have seriously underestimated how much buying power Mittelstadt has as a trade chip. The analytics community has now joined the chat.
- Hank Balling


Makes sense, it is pride month
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:46 AM ET
Who would probably be used for high end offers:

Rosen, Neuchev, Novikov, Kisakov, Poltapov, Nadeau and Lindgren.

If you're thinking Ryan Johnson, don't bother.

- TheSabresTaco


Quinn or Peterka, they are getting older and could block these prospects from further development in the NHL
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:48 AM ET
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:54 AM ET
The last time an A prospect was traded was for an elite, Stanley Cup winning center.

That prospect? Mr. Krabs.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 9:54 AM ET
Quinn or Peterka, they are getting older and could block these prospects from further development in the NHL
- washedup20


There are those that would rather have ELCs cycled in for eternity.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 15 @ 10:00 AM ET
according to one value chart, the Sabres 2nd round picks are worth 960 points. Same as the 16th-17th pick in the first round.

Wonder if the Sabres do quality over quantity, or just decide to stack the pool.
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