Lol this is what we are coming to.

Ok.

Marner has a selke and amazing offensive season plus great 1st round. Meh 2nd round.

Lindholm has a career 17 points in 27 games in playoffs plus a 60 point season.

WE NEED THAT GUY.
- Santo_44

Pretty sure no one is saying Lindholm is as good as Marner.

But if you add Andersson to that deal, it's completely different.

That's without talking about how much both guys are on bargain deals compared to your boy.

🫡

Tree says yeah, don't hate the deal but real not sure about Lindholms long term status (completely disregarding the idea that Marner has 2 years left and can sign wherever he wants), so we'll need that first rounder in the deal as well.

Proceeds to trade Calgary 1st, Robertson, prospect for Konecny. Signs Barbashev, resigns Acciari and ROR.

Ices a top 9 of:

Barbashev / Matthews / Nylander
Tavares / Lindholm / Konecny
Knies / ROR / Acciari

Watch out, it's raining cups.
- joel878

That's a really good looking lineup, though. I won't lie.

Doubt Marner comes close to 100pts last year on CGY.
- mjones242

Ya, probably 88pts

All reports have the Habs passing on Michkov and drafting Leonard or Reinbacher.

Both look like solid prospects but man....if Michkov joins the league in 3 years and dominates, everyone that passed on him will look foolish.
- Scabeh

From what I understand most GMs want to appease owners.

Taking the homerun cut in baseball only looks good if you hit it...you look silly when you miss and you miss more often than not.

Taking the safe guy that your scouting staff is confident in gives you the best chance at looking good.

I think there is a reason a lot of managers pass on some Michkov like players and its not because they are stupid...they know why they are doing it.

Fantilli still better... that's why we are drafting a big, fast, nasty, skilled Canadian Center at 2.

- dozerD10

Chicago and Anaheim excluded for the stupid talk, for sure.

I more meant Columbus and San Jose. Maybe even Montreal, but I doubt they'd pass on him, too.

Agreed.

Lindholm is a Selke contending C who is capable of ppg numbers. He's UFA, so there's some risk in re-signing (he'll want a substantial salary upgrade).

Andersson can play big minutes, is a RD, and is on a fantastic contract.

Won't happen, but definitely not a silly proposal.
- mjones242

Yeah you’re right it won’t happen. If Calgary was to trade off those two it means they’re heading into a rebuild so no, Marner wouldn’t be what they want since he’s UFA in 2 years and he wouldn’t resign for a rebuilding club.

If Calgary starts moving their core guys it will be for picks, prospects, and extremely young but worthwhile RFAs.

Pretty sure no one is saying Lindholm is as good as Marner.

But if you add Andersson to that deal, it's completely different.

That's without talking about how much both guys are on bargain deals compared to your boy.
- Scabeh

Losing the best player in the deal is silly.

Unless he wants out.

All reports have the Habs passing on Michkov and drafting Leonard or Reinbacher.

Both look like solid prospects but man....if Michkov joins the league in 3 years and dominates, everyone that passed on him will look foolish.
- Scabeh

Wait, actually?

Well now my last post looks stupid.

From what I understand most GMs want to appease owners.

Taking the homerun cut in baseball only looks good if you hit it...you look silly when you miss and you miss more often than not.

Taking the safe guy that your scouting staff is confident in gives you the best chance at looking good.

I think there is a reason a lot of managers pass on some Michkov like players and its not because they are stupid...they know why they are doing it.
- Santo_44

Oh I completely understand why they'd pass on him.

And it's not like they're gonna pick some 4th liner or third pairing defenseman instead. The guy they can take should be a very good player.

But it's hard to pass on that kind of talent/production without looking back.

He had 60 points last year.

If Marner did that we would fire him into the sun.

This is why Leaf fans can't have nice things.
- Santo_44

yes, that's a great example of selective reasoning.

A 40-40 guy plus an elite d-man on an elite contract is comparable value.

I didn't say I'd do it ...but the value is close.

That's a really good looking lineup, though. I won't lie.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Whether people want to admit it or not, the money looks a lot different if you trade Marner and keep Willy, especially if you can bring in two impact players who combined make less than Marner.

That's not commentary on Marner vs Willy. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, I'm not looking to have that debate.

But the reality is, an extended Willy is more than likely below what Marner makes currently. If Marner decides he should again be one of the top 10 paid players in the league, he makes 12-13 on his next deal. If Willy extends long term at 9ish, that's where the potential exists to have lineups like this.

lunch today was a cold 4 day old slice of double pepperoni pizza from domino's with a shot of sriracha and fresh basil from the garden on top

eaten over the kitchen sink ofcourse
- TheMussel

I eat that as a snack while thinking what I want for my meal with the fridge wide open.

Yeah you’re right it won’t happen. If Calgary was to trade off those two it means they’re heading into a rebuild so no, Marner wouldn’t be what they want since he’s UFA in 2 years and he wouldn’t resign for a rebuilding club.

If Calgary starts moving their core guys it will be for picks, prospects, and extremely young but worthwhile RFAs.
- Dozzer

Calgary wasn't heading into a rebuild when they had Gaudreau and Tkachuk go out the door.

It's not always one or the other.

Oh I completely understand why they'd pass on him.

And it's not like they're gonna pick some 4th liner or third pairing defenseman instead. The guy they can take should be a very good player.

But it's hard to pass on that kind of talent/production without looking back.

- Scabeh

As a fan it is a no brainer to pick Michkov because we are just fans, these GMs choices is what puts food on the table on their yachts.

It is what it is, I think scouting staff is good enough these days to know who not to pick.

I think a team will get very lucky at like 12-20 that picks him. Less pressure for a GM to take a guarantee.

Oh I completely understand why they'd pass on him.

And it's not like they're gonna pick some 4th liner or third pairing defenseman instead. The guy they can take should be a very good player.

But it's hard to pass on that kind of talent/production without looking back.

- Scabeh

I don't knooow. They did draft a 3rd liner 1st overall last year.

Lol this is what we are coming to.

Ok.

Marner has a selke and amazing offensive season plus great 1st round. Meh 2nd round.

Lindholm has a career 17 points in 27 games in playoffs plus a 60 point season.

WE NEED THAT GUY.
- Santo_44

Marner hasn't won a Selke yet - he's nominated for one this year (unless I missed something?)

Lindholm was runner up for a Selke in 21-22 playing a much more difficult position than Marner. Hell, you could make a case that Elias actually deserved the award over Bergeron that year.

He's also capable of a ppg and would certainly benefit from playing on a team with so much "talent".

No one is saying "WE NEED THAT GUY!". Marner is soon to be NMC and will want a raise from his current 11M salary (when his contract is up) so people are casting some ideas about potential trades that might make sense, if Tree Living decided to make a move.

Marner may be the "best" player in the deal, but landing an excellent 2-way guy as a return and also a RHD who can play big minutes is nothing to "Lol" at.

I don't knooow. They did draft a 3rd liner 1st overall last year.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Aaaaannnnndddd you win...

Yeah you’re right it won’t happen. If Calgary was to trade off those two it means they’re heading into a rebuild so no, Marner wouldn’t be what they want since he’s UFA in 2 years and he wouldn’t resign for a rebuilding club.

If Calgary starts moving their core guys it will be for picks, prospects, and extremely young but worthwhile RFAs.
- Dozzer

I don't think the Flames are intent on a rebuild. I think, listening to Conroy, he's going to deal guys entering their last year if they don't commit to staying.

Hanifin, Lindholm, etc....

Calgary wasn't heading into a rebuild when they had Gaudreau and Tkachuk go out the door.

It's not always one or the other.
- joel878

They’re not giving up multiple players for one behind your argument then.

And there is no way in hell they’ll give a bargain to the guy they just fired. Flames fans would eat their new management alive. The leafs would have to give up a top 6 C AND a top 4 D for them to not even hang up the phone on them if their intention is to remain competitive.

I don't think the Flames are intent on a rebuild. I think, listening to Conroy, he's going to deal guys entering their last year if they don't commit to staying.

Hanifin, Lindholm, etc....
- The Law

Not at bargain prices, especially to the GM they just fired.

I don't knooow. They did draft a 3rd liner 1st overall last year.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Slaf will make you all eat your words one day.


He's going to be great.

Ya, probably 88pts
- Fakepartofme

Which is what Lindholm probably hits on TML, amirite?

All reports have the Habs passing on Michkov and drafting Leonard or Reinbacher.

Both look like solid prospects but man....if Michkov joins the league in 3 years and dominates, everyone that passed on him will look foolish.
- Scabeh

I wouldn't touch ANY player out of Russia for the next few years.
You simply cannot assume they would want to play over here, or that they would be able to even if willing.
poop going on there is going to get much worse before it gets better.
Wouldn't even be surprised to them stop allowing players to come over here at all.

If dealing with 🔥

Hanifin, Vladar and Dube

Not at bargain prices, especially to the GM they just fired.
- Dozzer

He was not fired. He advised them that he was leaving.

And what is a bargain price? Nobody said that at all.