Boy this big summer is coming together with a lot of asterisks and disclaimers
- sbroads24

3 months ago it was “No excuse Summer”

Yep, exactly what I said.

Not like we have second round picks or other assets we can trade.

But go off my grouch
- Swedish_Jesus

Nothing grouchy. I know you're all about drafting and building from within and all. At what point is it OK to make a couple real moves, not a 2 and a 5 for a greenway type moves? Ever? Or only after you've let your drafted "core" grow out of their elc's when your cap space dwindles? Just let the young guys try to learn from each other constantly until it works or doesn't work and then just keep drafting all over again? When exactly is the right time?
I bought the house I now live in "stupidly" in 2019 at the absolute "height of the market". Man, what an idiot I was back then. House 2 doors down, a lesser comp just sold last week for 65% more than we paid with a drastically higher interest rate to boot. Guess I should've held off. Oh well, I'm just stuck with this appreciated asset and shafted with this all time low interest rate.

Yeah that bozo had three chances to draft Brandon Montour
- TheSabresTaco

All brawn, no brains…his eye to face ratio wouldn’t hold up long term, had to go.

Yeah that bozo had three chances to draft Brandon Montour
- TheSabresTaco

The current genius let him go for peanuts too. Top5

All brawn, no brains…his eye to face ratio wouldn’t hold up long term, had to go.
- washedup20

😆

Boy this big summer is coming together with a lot of asterisks and disclaimers
- sbroads24

If we can’t make a meaningful acquisition without moving 13OA or one of the blue chip prospects, then I’ll accept the fact this front office isn’t up to snuff.

Olofsson at 50% retained maybe hauls a 2nd rounder in return, maybe the best we can do is a third rounder.

That should give us the 2024 first, 3/4 second rounders and 2/3 third rounders in the next two drafts (depending on Olofsson).

If you can’t use those to acquire a #4 d-man and a goalie (not to mention free agents that cost no assets at all) then I’ll agree that Ventura and this front office isn’t up to snuff.

Chuck Fletcher says Tim Murray offered all 3 of those crappy 2nd round picks for 18OA to draft Alex Tuch.

What he should have done is traded 2015 2OA and 2023 77OA for 2014 18OA, 2019 17OA, 2022 16OA and 2023 64OA

1st and a 3rd for 3 1sts and a 3rd which became a 2nd in 2021? What a deal.
- TheSabresTaco

See that is dumb …….i don’t care if you are playing fantasy football or an NHL gm. If you truly believe in a guy you want. Go get him no matter the cost

Again if you truly believe in the player. Then do it

If we can’t make a meaningful acquisition without moving 13OA or one of the blue chip prospects, then I’ll accept the fact this front office isn’t up to snuff.

Olofsson at 50% retained maybe hauls a 2nd rounder in return, maybe the best we can do is a third rounder.

That should give us the 2024 first, 3/4 second rounders and 2/3 third rounders in the next two drafts (depending on Olofsson).

If you can’t use those to acquire a #4 d-man and a goalie (not to mention free agents that cost no assets at all) then I’ll agree that Ventura and this front office isn’t up to snuff.
- Swedish_Jesus

Sometimes you find good stuff in the bargain bin at goodwill. Very rarely is it better than something you buy brand new at full price.

See that is dumb …….i don’t care if you are playing fantasy football or an NHL gm. If you truly believe in a guy you want. Go get him no matter the cost

Again if you truly believe in the player. Then do it
- Sabretooth9

But only for 2nds 3rds 5ths and future considerations though right? 😆

If we can’t make a meaningful acquisition without moving 13OA or one of the blue chip prospects, then I’ll accept the fact this front office isn’t up to snuff.

Olofsson at 50% retained maybe hauls a 2nd rounder in return, maybe the best we can do is a third rounder.

That should give us the 2024 first, 3/4 second rounders and 2/3 third rounders in the next two drafts (depending on Olofsson).

If you can’t use those to acquire a #4 d-man and a goalie (not to mention free agents that cost no assets at all) then I’ll agree that Ventura and this front office isn’t up to snuff.
- Swedish_Jesus

If KA can't/won't make meaningful moves, why is it on analytics? I don't think they are the ones fighting to keep Joker around.

The current genius let him go for peanuts too. Top5
- TheHank

His value clearly wasnt high. Always had flashes but never could consistently be the offensive driver he was this year. Even last year on a better offensive Florida team he didnt produce like he did this year.

Not sure why you guys decide to complain about that trade now..

His value clearly wasnt high. Always had flashes but never could consistently be the offensive driver he was this year.

Not sure why you guys decide to complain about that trade now..
- DirtyDan

I'm complaining about the idea of not making a move now, now.

See that is dumb …….i don’t care if you are playing fantasy football or an NHL gm. If you truly believe in a guy you want. Go get him no matter the cost

Again if you truly believe in the player. Then do it
- Sabretooth9

well most of the problem lies in the fact that Murray gave Fletcher 4 minutes to decide instead of pitching the idea of moving up well in advance. Beane talks about that all the time. Talks to GMs around the draft, see what it would take to get in a certain position, figure out how far you can move up or down comfortably..

But Leroy (frank)ing Jenkins over there was king of the hip shot.

well most of the problem lies in the fact that Murray gave Fletcher 4 minutes to decide instead of pitching the idea of moving up well in advance. Beane talks about that all the time. Talks to GMs around the draft, see what it would take to get in a certain position, figure out how far you can move up or down comfortably..

But Leroy (frank)ing Jenkins over there was king of the hip shot.
- TheSabresTaco

To be fair he may have been 3/4 drunk 1/2 the time.

well most of the problem lies in the fact that Murray gave Fletcher 4 minutes to decide instead of pitching the idea of moving up well in advance. Beane talks about that all the time. Talks to GMs around the draft, see what it would take to get in a certain position, figure out how far you can move up or down comfortably..

But Leroy (frank)ing Jenkins over there was king of the hip shot.
- TheSabresTaco

This is elite writing - 13OA writing…great stuff

If KA can't/won't make meaningful moves, why is it on analytics? I don't think they are the ones fighting to keep Joker around.
- Lunaion

Step 1 used to always be, call Fletch
Step 2 was call Hex
Step 3, call Chiarelli

Now that those betches are canned, who's our new sucker

I'm complaining about the idea of not making a move now, now.
- TheHank

Deep breathe. Its June 21st

Step 1 used to always be, call Fletch
Step 2 was call Hex
Step 3, call Chiarelli

Now that those betches are canned, who's our new sucker
- TheSabresTaco

The Fans?

This is elite writing - 13OA writing…great stuff
- washedup20

And like the Sabres, I will never trade my stupid jokes for the betterment of my life now and into the future.

Deep breathe. Its June 21st
- DirtyDan

Deep breath. It's the ideology of it.

To be fair he may have been 3/4 drunk 1/2 the time.
- ImThatGuy

generous

If we can’t make a meaningful acquisition without moving 13OA or one of the blue chip prospects, then I’ll accept the fact this front office isn’t up to snuff.

Olofsson at 50% retained maybe hauls a 2nd rounder in return, maybe the best we can do is a third rounder.

That should give us the 2024 first, 3/4 second rounders and 2/3 third rounders in the next two drafts (depending on Olofsson).

If you can’t use those to acquire a #4 d-man and a goalie (not to mention free agents that cost no assets at all) then I’ll agree that Ventura and this front office isn’t up to snuff.
- Swedish_Jesus

Why is it just “a” RHD and not the best RHD we can possibly get and (frank) the cost because we’re freaking loaded with forward talent and we absolutely don’t need to draft 13oa?

Just get the best guy possible.

Or we can settle, as the Sabres always do with guys like Lyubushkin and Comrie

Why is it just “a” RHD and not the best RHD we can possibly get and (frank) the cost because we’re freaking loaded with forward talent and we absolutely don’t need to draft 13oa?

Just get the best guy possible.

Or we can settle, as the Sabres always do with guys like Lyubushkin and Comrie
- sbroads24

Amen

We should be making the pick.

We have two seconds, VO, Rosen, Joker, maybe mitts to move for a top 4 RHD. No need to trade the 1st or reach for a D at 13 if we do make that pick.

I'm warming up to UPL and Levi as our goalies if we get a legit top 4 RHD.
- Fattony1187

Completely agree 🤝

Lots of assets , with few positions "of need".

Just buy a competent 4th defenseman july 1st.

I'd be fine trading a 2026 2nd Bryson and Olofsson for someone like alex Nylander
- TheSabresTaco

Ftfy