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IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:51 PM ET
anderson coming back
- homiedclown

My pants just got tighter.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:52 PM ET
That's interesting, can they afford both Timo and Hellebuyck.
- Buff36





Why are the devils trying to make trades? Everyone knows the secret to winning in the NHL is to draft and use the roster as a development group for future winning.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:52 PM ET
That's interesting, can they afford both Timo and Hellebuyck.
- Buff36

I hope not
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jun 22 @ 1:53 PM ET


Why are the devils trying to make trades? Everyone knows the secret to winning in the NHL is to draft and use the roster as a development group for future winning.

- washedup20

Well three players drafted by Buffalo just got their name etched on the cup.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:54 PM ET
My pants just got tighter.
- IndianaSabresFan


That's from the doughnuts the husky sorority girl force fed you while telling you how great you looked in the Apple costume yesterday.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 22 @ 1:55 PM ET


Why are the devils trying to make trades? Everyone knows the secret to winning in the NHL is to draft and use the roster as a development group for future winning.

- washedup20

You never actually lose if you aren’t supposed to win
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jun 22 @ 1:56 PM ET
Adams trades Eichel and the return is Tuch, Krebs, Ostlund, and Greenway while the Sabres finish with their best record this decade.

Trevling lets Gaudreau walk for nothing and refuses to trade Tkachuk for futures and rebuild only for the Flames to enter the f**king apocalypse regardless now with Kadri, Huberdeau, and Weegar all signed until their 80.

Hate to see it

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
Adams trades Eichel and the return is Tuch, Krebs, Ostlund, and Greenway while the Sabres finish with their best record this decade.

Trevling lets Gaudreau walk for nothing and refuses to trade Tkachuk for futures and rebuild only for the Flames to enter the f**king apocalypse regardless now with Kadri, Huberdeau, and Weegar all signed until their 80.

Hate to see it

- Swedish_Jesus


Both clubs finished 1 point out of the playoffs, wonder which approach will be more successful
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:01 PM ET
You never actually lose if you aren’t supposed to win
- sbroads24



Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 22 @ 2:01 PM ET
Adams trades Eichel and the return is Tuch, Krebs, Ostlund, and Greenway while the Sabres finish with their best record this decade.

Trevling lets Gaudreau walk for nothing and refuses to trade Tkachuk for futures and rebuild only for the Flames to enter the f**king apocalypse regardless now with Kadri, Huberdeau, and Weegar all signed until their 80.

Hate to see it

- Swedish_Jesus

What's the point, GM's make mistakes and screw up. Think as Sabres fans we know that first hand!! We are coming out of the Darkness and the Vibes are growing. Doesn't mean Adams should be afraid to pull the trigger cause he saw he shadow.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jun 22 @ 2:03 PM ET
What's the point, GM's make mistakes and screw up. Think as Sabres fans we know that first hand!! We are coming out of the Darkness and the Vibes are growing. Doesn't mean Adams should be afraid to pull the trigger cause he saw he shadow.
- Buff36


I think Adams deserves a lot more credit than he’s getting for the returns in the Eichel, Reinhart, and Risto trades.

We could easily be in a much tougher position if he didn’t do extremely well in all three trades.

Everyone likes to focus on the negatives here, I’ll shine more light on the positives
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 22 @ 2:03 PM ET
Adams trades Eichel and the return is Tuch, Krebs, Ostlund, and Greenway while the Sabres finish with their best record this decade.

Trevling lets Gaudreau walk for nothing and refuses to trade Tkachuk for futures and rebuild only for the Flames to enter the f**king apocalypse regardless now with Kadri, Huberdeau, and Weegar all signed until their 80.

Hate to see it

- Swedish_Jesus


I think the NHL is an old gentleman’s club with recycled GMs and coaches.

The flames or even the jets gm can’t fathom doing something like rebuilding or getting ahead of a trade.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 22 @ 2:04 PM ET
My wife was there last night, she sent me a picture, they looked pretty good
- Stripes77

They are, the Smitty style and Cajun are really good.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
That's interesting, can they afford both Timo and Hellebuyck.
- Buff36

I don’t see why not?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
At the very least, we are hopefully done bashing the 4th line wingers good at their respective jobs and we have moved on to something more relevant.

I’m on the fence about Greenway, but year two post shoulder surgery and a full training camp here and we’ll see what happens.

- Swedish_Jesus


yeah that's not going to stop
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 22 @ 2:08 PM ET
I think Adams deserves a lot more credit than he’s getting for the returns in the Eichel, Reinhart, and Risto trades.

We could easily be in a much tougher position if he didn’t do extremely well in all three trades.

Everyone likes to focus on the negatives here, I’ll shine more light on the positives

- Swedish_Jesus

You can shine the light on both and be right!! Adams has done a good job on his trades, don't think anyone denies it. But he also walked Ullmark into FA, messed up with Montour and hasn't done anything to fix his goaltending since he got here.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:09 PM ET
That's interesting, can they afford both Timo and Hellebuyck.
- Buff36


I was joking, Friedman/Marek came out with this info yesterday.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:13 PM ET


Why are the devils trying to make trades? Everyone knows the secret to winning in the NHL is to draft and use the roster as a development group for future winning.

- washedup20


The Devils emptied their garbage can unto the Sharks for an excellent top 6 RFA.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 22 @ 2:16 PM ET
I was joking, Friedman/Marek came out with this info yesterday.
- TheSabresTaco

Heard something that Hellebuyck would do a extension there, didn't see it was from them.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
I think Adams deserves a lot more credit than he’s getting for the returns in the Eichel, Reinhart, and Risto trades.

We could easily be in a much tougher position if he didn’t do extremely well in all three trades.

Everyone likes to focus on the negatives here, I’ll shine more light on the positives

- Swedish_Jesus


The Risto trade was garbage, the other trades are TBD. Tuch has been the only impact player from all those trades combined.

Losing for so long makes some of you easily impressed.




Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
You can shine the light on both and be right!! Adams has done a good job on his trades, don't think anyone denies it. But he also walked Ullmark into FA, messed up with Montour and hasn't done anything to fix his goaltending since he got here.
- Buff36


Also brings up the old question of how you should grade trades. The Risto deal got excellent value, but the pick is looking weak. Sam got poor value, but the pick + prospect are looking great. Will leave Eichel out, people just give an emotional reaction to that one.

How much trade credit should you get for hitting/missing on a pick?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:22 PM ET
Also brings up the old question of how you should grade trades. The Risto deal got excellent value, but the pick is looking weak. Sam got poor value, but the pick + prospect are looking great. Will leave Eichel out, people just give an emotional reaction to that one.

How much trade credit should you get for hitting/missing on a pick?

- Lunaion


It’s All TBD.

Looks good on paper but super unknown.

It has lead to 0 postseason games so far.

Until that number starts going up it’s mostly meaningless, to me at least.


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
Also brings up the old question of how you should grade trades. The Risto deal got excellent value, but the pick is looking weak. Sam got poor value, but the pick + prospect are looking great. Will leave Eichel out, people just give an emotional reaction to that one.

How much trade credit should you get for hitting/missing on a pick?

- Lunaion

Agree, and how much credit should your Developmental Coaches get for getting that prospect to shine even brighter.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
The Risto trade was garbage, the other trades are TBD. Tuch has been the only impact player from all those trades combined.

Losing for so long makes some of you easily impressed.

- washedup20

Seriously.

Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jun 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
Also brings up the old question of how you should grade trades. The Risto deal got excellent value, but the pick is looking weak. Sam got poor value, but the pick + prospect are looking great. Will leave Eichel out, people just give an emotional reaction to that one.

How much trade credit should you get for hitting/missing on a pick?

- Lunaion


Just as an aside, the 5 or 6 guys drafted after Rosen have as much or less of a chance of making the NHL as a regular as Rosen does.

But in general, Im always of the mind that trades should be evaluated based on the value at the time it was made.

If you trade your star player for a 6th and that 6th turns into kucherov you did not win that trade under any circumstances. You got beat senseless, left a ton of value on the table, and stumbled bass ackwards into saving your job. Extreme example, but you get the point.

Drafting success rate is a whole other animal and shouldn't be lumped in with trade value.
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