People speak of Pesce being a product of his environment but I think that is Mayfield 100%

Not a huge fan of his.

I want a Top 4 where you say who is the weak link and you really have to think. Especially with the system we play. (I won’t comment on Goaltending)
- sabrerob

Agreed. I don’t have an interest in Mayfield, especially as a top 4 D.

I’d rather have Joki

I definitely agree with you on mayfield. He’s not my pick, just a gut feeling.
- Michael Ghofrani

Then I hope that is just a Tummy ache! 😉

Then I hope that is just a Tummy ache! 😉
- sabrerob

Tummy ache was 2 rebuilds ago. Sabres fans all have ulcers.

Tummy ache was 2 rebuilds ago. Sabres fans all have ulcers.
- Michael Ghofrani

Haha, you aren’t lying.

I'd be fine if they paid the highest % in the league, with 2 #1's. If you can get the right guy for 6-7m, do it.
- Lunaion

I'll take a quick, non analytical stab for fun...not floor/ ceiling, just a target percentage...the rest requires too much time to invest in research..just don't have.
('23$'s):
G -10% ($8.3m)
D - 35% ($29.2m)
F - 51% ($42.5m)
Hold - 4% ($3.5m)

If you subscribe to the above as somewhat close, Sabres D
Sammy $4.3m
Dahlin. $10.0m
Power $8.75m
Player X. $6.0m
3rd Pair R $1.75m
3rd Pair -L $1.4m
7th D $1.0m
I think that totals ~$33.2m. =39.8% of $83.5m in 2023...would be 37.9% in 2024 or 2025 ... not bad.
Just shows the critical need for a strong pipeline to have lower level players on ELC's or low cost in any event.

They can afford to invest in a quality 2nd pairing guy.

I'll take a quick, non analytical stab for fun...not floor/ ceiling, just a target percentage...the rest requires too much time to invest in research..just don't have.
('23$'s):
G -10% ($8.3m)
D - 35% ($29.2m)
F - 51% ($42.5m)
Hold - 4% ($3.5m)

If you subscribe to the above as somewhat close, Sabres D
Sammy $4.3m
Dahlin. $10.0m
Power $8.75m
Player X. $6.75m
Lyubushkin. $2.75m
Stillman $1.4m
7th D $1.0m
- IonSabres

Not going to look too hard, but I see Boston is at 31m for their D atm. Maybe someone is a little higher.

With Buffalo, it's not an issue the next few seasons. With the cap heading up, don't see it as a long term problem either. I'm fine if they are #1. If it costs them a F in 4 years, deal with it then.

I'll take a quick, non analytical stab for fun...not floor/ ceiling, just a target percentage...the rest requires too much time to invest in research..just don't have.
('23$'s):
G -10% ($8.3m)
D - 35% ($29.2m)
F - 51% ($42.5m)
Hold - 4% ($3.5m)



If you subscribe to the above as somewhat close, Sabres D
Sammy $4.3m
Dahlin. $10.0m
Power $8.75m
Player X. $6.75m
Lyubushkin. $2.75m
Stillman $1.4m
7th D $1.0m
- IonSabres

Player X could be Pesce
Boosh and Stills for over $4 are EZ-ly replaced for around $2 with Johnson/Novikov or any other 13 minute 3rd pairing plug. If you get a good keeper, great, if not, keep looking

Not going to look too hard, but I see Boston is at 31m for their D atm. Maybe someone is a little higher.

With Buffalo, it's not an issue the next few seasons. With the cap heading up, don't see it as a long term problem either. I'm fine if they are #1. If it costs them a F in 4 years, deal with it then.
- Lunaion

I revised my post as I hit submit prior to being done....key point: keep building the pipeline for quality replace,entertainment on ELC'S

Player X could be Pesce
Boosh and Stills for over $4 are EZ-ly replaced for around $2 with Johnson/Novikov or any other 13 minute 3rd pairing plug. If you get a good keeper, great, if not, keep looking
- sabrerob

Yup, see revised above.
They can do this.
Pluse, their G's won't be that expensive either for some time to come...and Skinner's contract can come off in 3 years if need be via buyout.

Player X could be Pesce
Boosh and Stills for over $4 are EZ-ly replaced for around $2 with Johnson/Novikov or any other 13 minute 3rd pairing plug. If you get a good keeper, great, if not, keep looking
- sabrerob

Yup, see revised above.
They can do this.
Pluse, their G's won't be that expensive either for some time to come...and Skinner's contract can come off in 3 years if need be via buyout.

I revised my post as I hit submit prior to being done....key point: keep building the pipeline for quality replace,entertainment on ELC'S
- IonSabres

Right. 4th line is meant for low cost ELC's and vets, not overpriced failures. Make good and timely decisions on your players.

I'll take a quick, non analytical stab for fun...not floor/ ceiling, just a target percentage...the rest requires too much time to invest in research..just don't have.
('23$'s):
G -10% ($8.3m)
D - 35% ($29.2m)
F - 51% ($42.5m)
Hold - 4% ($3.5m)

If you subscribe to the above as somewhat close, Sabres D
Sammy $4.3m
Dahlin. $10.0m
Power $8.75m
Player X. $6.0m
3rd Pair R $1.75m
3rd Pair -L $1.4m
7th D $1.0m
I think that totals ~$33.2m. =39.8% of $83.5m in 2023...would be 37.9% in 2024 or 2025 ... not bad.
Just shows the critical need for a strong pipeline to have lower level players on ELC's or low cost in any event.

They can afford to invest in a quality 2nd pairing guy.
- IonSabres

Good Post

Right. 4th line is meant for low cost ELC's and vets, not overpriced failures. Make good and timely decisions on your players.
- Lunaion

I dont think the Sabres would have a problem doing this either, I just dont think Carolina moves Pesce.

Yup, see revised above.
They can do this.
Pluse, their G's won't be that expensive either for some time to come...and Skinner's contract can come off in 3 years if need be via buyout.
- IonSabres

I’m with you. They can grab a 1b for some expense for 2-3 years but still be fine. Get top 8/ top 4 and be set for several years. I’d love to draft another goalie this year (I like Trey Augustine with our 2nd or LA’s 3rd) and keep drafting 1 per season until you have 4 real prospects.

I dont think the Sabres would have a problem doing this either, I just dont think Carolina moves Pesce.
- Michael Ghofrani

Probably not, but hopefully it's someone. Almost time to find out. Hopefully the first significant post-teardown add. I'm not going to count Greenway.

Probably not, but hopefully it's someone. Almost time to find out. Hopefully the first significant post-teardown add. I'm not going to count Greenway.
- Lunaion

In my head I keep thinking the draft is the 23rd so Im surprised I havent heard anything but it's actually 10 days away so not all that surprising.

I think the moves start coming end of this week.

Probably not, but hopefully it's someone. Almost time to find out. Hopefully the first significant post-teardown add. I'm not going to count Greenway.
- Lunaion

I think he’s getting traded the more I keep hearing his name thrown around.

It just makes a ton of sense.

They have a few good D prospects, they need shooting talent and their franchise D is also up for a contract within 2 years.

I think he’s getting traded the more I keep hearing his name thrown around.

It just makes a ton of sense.

They have a few good D prospects, they need shooting talent and their franchise D is also up for a contract within 2 years.
- sbroads24

The prospects are lefties though right? If anything that makes me think they'll move Skjei

The prospects are lefties though right? If anything that makes me think they'll move Skjei
- Michael Ghofrani

Not all lefties...

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/scott-morrow

Not all lefties...

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/scott-morrow
- kingcong39

I dont think he's the guy they are big on though. From that crop, the star looks like nikishin.

Just absurd KHL stats.

I dont think he's the guy they are big on though. From that crop, the star looks like nikishin.

Just absurd KHL stats.
- Michael Ghofrani

If you are just picking one, yes, but they were very high on Morrow at last check.

If you are just picking one, yes, but they were very high on Morrow at last check.
- kingcong39

I dont think he's anything special though, like top4 worthy. I think Nikishin is the reason they theoretically would be okay moving a top 4 guy right now.

Erik Karlsson paired with Dahlin for 4 years is tempting

it's not our money

Erik Karlsson paired with Dahlin for 4 years is tempting

it's not our money
- homiedclown

Age 33-37

way less tempting.

I think he’s getting traded the more I keep hearing his name thrown around.

It just makes a ton of sense.

They have a few good D prospects, they need shooting talent and their franchise D is also up for a contract within 2 years.
- sbroads24

I hope you're right. I just can't my hopes up on someone who probably doesn't get moved at all.