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Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:22 AM ET
Great deal, now get rid of hoffer


How do we still have Wideman under contract for 2023-2024
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:25 AM ET
Great deal, now get rid of hoffer


How do we still have Wideman under contract for 2023-2024

- Xizord


by next year

Alzner off the books, Hoffman gone, Wideman out, Pitlick out, Edmundson out

almost 11M in cap space
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:26 AM ET
Great deal, now get rid of hoffer


How do we still have Wideman under contract for 2023-2024

- Xizord

yep, Hoffman and Wideman we could do without
they now have 24 players
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 20 @ 10:28 AM ET
Also, as Pat would say... Another win for Hugo!
- Mashadar


nah, you know I'll leave that awkward and lazy AF expression for everyone else to use...


honest question though, do people still think Hughes is just Gorton's puppet? I get that Hughes isn't acting alone but to me, it's pretty clear he's much more than just a "yes man"... anyway lol.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:29 AM ET
Great deal, now get rid of hoffer


How do we still have Wideman under contract for 2023-2024

- Xizord


He's appreciated in the lockeroom and doesn't mind being the 7th defenseman.

It's also highly possible he gets waived/sent down.

Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 20 @ 10:29 AM ET
Great deal, now get rid of hoffer


How do we still have Wideman under contract for 2023-2024

- Xizord


I don't really have an issue with Wideman.

Cheap contract, no long-term commitment, does not cause problems when he is asked to sit or play reduced minutes, veteran presence if injuries occur, seems like a positive presence in the locker room.

He is fine.

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:30 AM ET
He's appreciated in the lockeroom and doesn't mind being the 7th defenseman.

It's also highly possible he gets waived/sent down.

- Scabeh

problem is, he's not the 7th dman. he's the 9th.

and yes!
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 20 @ 10:33 AM ET
nah, you know I'll leave that awkward and lazy AF expression for everyone else to use...


honest question though, do people still think Hughes is just Gorton's puppet? I get that Hughes isn't acting alone but to me, it's pretty clear he's much more than just a "yes man"... anyway lol.

- Pat1993


I think Gorton is looking at the bigger picture - who they have now, who they think they will have in a few years, where will the holes are, what the cap looks like etc.... and defining the boundaries of what the team direction should be. Basically, the over-arching roadmap from 10,000 feet.

I think Hughes is tasked with finding the pieces to put that plan into action, in whichever way he can.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:33 AM ET
problem is, he's not the 7th dman. he's the 9th.
- fidopro


Yes, because as last season showed us, everyone is always healthy.

He's a 750k depth guy, he's not even a factor in whatever decisions they have to make.

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
Yes, because as last season showed us, everyone is always healthy.

He's a 750k depth guy, he's not even a factor in whatever decisions they have to make.

- Scabeh

oh sure, he's not a problem. but they have 24 players signed for camp. 9 dmen. something's gotta give.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
problem is, he's not the 7th dman. he's the 9th.

and yes!

- fidopro


Would you rather have Wideman as a 7th D or some kid that does not get to play regularly, that would probably benefit more in Laval?

I have no issued with Wideman, given where the team currently is in their rebuild.

If they were a playoff team, I might see things differently.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
Yes, because as last season showed us, everyone is always healthy.

He's a 750k depth guy, he's not even a factor in whatever decisions they have to make.

- Scabeh

He is also a RHD, something they NO depth at the moment for. He's the perfect player for a last shot at tanking
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
Would you rather have Wideman as a 7th D or some kid that does not get to play regularly, that would probably benefit more in Laval?

I have no issued with Wideman, given where the team currently is in their rebuild.

If they were a playoff team, I might see things differently.

- Mashadar

I agree will all that
but if you keep Wideman as your 7th d, which other 2 do you get rid of?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
He is also a RHD, something they NO depth at the moment for. He's the perfect player for a last shot at tanking
- Symba007


He does suck quite alot.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
He is also a RHD, something they NO depth at the moment for. He's the perfect player for a last shot at tanking
- Symba007



unless they hire even more incompetent people to treat player injuries, I doubt they finish at the bottom again. I get that it's interesting to draft high but (frank) this, I really hope it doesn't happen.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
He does suck quite alot.
- Scabeh

indeed
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 20 @ 10:38 AM ET
I think Gorton is looking at the bigger picture - who they have now, who they think they will have in a few years, where will the holes are, what the cap looks like etc.... and defining the boundaries of what the team direction should be. Basically, the over-arching roadmap from 10,000 feet.

I think Hughes is tasked with finding the pieces to put that plan into action, in whichever way he can.

- Mashadar


cool, sounds like a fine assessment of what's going on.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 20 @ 10:39 AM ET
I agree will all that
but if you keep Wideman as your 7th d, which other 2 do you get rid of?

- fidopro


I think Eddy will be gone this summer.

So that is one less.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:39 AM ET
I agree will all that
but if you keep Wideman as your 7th d, which other 2 do you get ride of?

- fidopro


I fully expect Edmundson to get traded.

So you start the season (if everyone is healthy)

Guhle
Matheson
Harris
Savard
Xhekaj
Kovacevic
Barron

So Wideman is waived or MAYBE Xhekaj is sent down if he has a bad camp but I doubt it.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:41 AM ET
I fully expect Edmundson to get traded.

So you start the season (if everyone is healthy)

Guhle
Matheson
Harris
Savard
Xhekaj
Kovacevic
Barron

So Wideman is waived or MAYBE Xhekaj is sent down if he has a bad camp but I doubt it.

- Scabeh

I think Harris will be traded like Romanov last year.
Edmundston at the tdl.
Wideman waived and sent to Laval.
start the season with
Guhle
Matheson
Xhekaj
Edmundston

Savard
Kovacevic
Barron
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 20 @ 10:42 AM ET
I fully expect Edmundson to get traded.

So you start the season (if everyone is healthy)

Guhle
Matheson
Harris
Savard
Xhekaj
Kovacevic
Barron

So Wideman is waived or MAYBE Xhekaj is sent down if he has a bad camp but I doubt it.

- Scabeh


I think the wild card is Kovacevic - he was unexpectedly good last year.

Can he do it again? Does he continue to improve as well?

Also, sophomore slumps happen, they can move a few of those guys to Laval and back, if needed, too.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 20 @ 10:44 AM ET
I think Harris will be traded like Romanov last year.
Edmundston at the tdl.
Wideman 7th d
start the season with
Guhle
Matheson
Xhekaj

Savard
Kovacevic
Barron

- fidopro


I do not know why, but I feel like Harris is not going to be the one to be moved.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:45 AM ET
I think Harris will be traded like Romanov last year.
Edmundston at the tdl.
Wideman 7th d
start the season with
Guhle
Matheson
Xhekaj

Savard
Kovacevic
Barron

- fidopro


I don't see it. He does look like an expendable piece on the left side but you're not getting the kind of value we got for Romanov imo. Might as well keep him.

I think Edmundson is gone sooner than later, betting on him getting healthy and/or better to raise his value doesn't sound like a smart bet.


fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 20 @ 10:45 AM ET
I do not know why, but I feel like Harris is not going to be the one to be moved.
- Mashadar

maybe, I also find it hard to believe since Hughes knows him well. so wifi?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 20 @ 10:47 AM ET
maybe, I also find it hard to believe since Hughes knows him well. so wifi?
- fidopro


Maybe.

Lane Hutson is joining the team next season, odds are we need to make room for him so he can become the next Adam Fox.
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