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chazpet
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.22.2010

Jun 28 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think what Lou is saying is, besides a backup goalie, you are looking at this year's team. At least they can dress a full team. Several teams have no space and need a half dozen players.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:46 PM ET
I don't totally understand the statement.

Three years ago we were 3 months into Covid. He can't possibly be suggesting that he thought revenues would continue to rise with zero fans in attendance, can he?

- eichiefs9

It’s an excuse. A very bad one at that.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:47 PM ET
It’s an excuse. A very bad one at that.
- Cptmjl


Not fitting for a Hall of Fame GM and something you expect from someone like Garth.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
I think what Lou is saying is, besides a backup goalie, you are looking at this year's team. At least they can dress a full team. Several teams have no space and need a half dozen players.
- chazpet

Yeah he pretty much said exactly this when he finally said something a couple of weeks ago. Not sure why people are getting disappointed.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 12:56 PM ET
Yeah he pretty much said exactly this when he finally said something a couple of weeks ago. Not sure why people are getting disappointed.
- Cptmjl


Probably just upset we are in this situation.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:05 PM ET
Probably just upset we are in this situation.
- ses111

We’re going to see the same team. Just have to hope these guys find a way to stay reasonably healthy, couple of young kids exceed expectations, and a few more improbable things jive right for us. Stars in line situation. That’s are Riad map for success this season. Once you accept that it won’t bother you as much when more then likely nothing happens today or tomorrow.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:14 PM ET
We’re going to see the same team. Just have to hope these guys find a way to stay reasonably healthy, couple of young kids exceed expectations, and a few more improbable things jive right for us. Stars in line situation. That’s are Riad map for success this season. Once you accept that it won’t bother you as much when more then likely nothing happens today or tomorrow.
- Cptmjl


Islander fans should be well trained in not a lot of moves. I hope we at least get some changes to the coaching staff. If some young players prove they are ready, I hope they get a real shot. Let this season at least be about finding out about some young talent.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:54 PM ET
Islander fans should be well trained in not a lot of moves. I hope we at least get some changes to the coaching staff. If some young players prove they are ready, I hope they get a real shot. Let this season at least be about finding out about some young talent.
- ses111

I initially thought they would’ve got rid of the assistant coaches. That hasn’t happened yet which makes me think it’s not going to happen. Lameriello seems to be running it back with the same exact everything for this coming season minus whoever he can’t resign.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 2:03 PM ET
I initially thought they would’ve got rid of the assistant coaches. That hasn’t happened yet which makes me think it’s not going to happen. Lameriello seems to be running it back with the same exact everything for this coming season minus whoever he can’t resign.
- Cptmjl


Really going to be tough going on any sort of run if the team is pretty much running it back. I understand the Islanders are not in a good position for a lot of moves. Team will be a year older and slower. I'm just not sure on the idea of bringing back an 80-year-old GM. Why not have a new GM this year and the new GM has an evaluation type year this year and next year with more Cap space, he can hit the offseason running.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:11 PM ET
I don't totally understand the statement.

Three years ago we were 3 months into Covid. He can't possibly be suggesting that he thought revenues would continue to rise with zero fans in attendance, can he?

- eichiefs9


I think he meant (although I could be wrong) that he had to rid the isles of bad contracts like Ladd, now Bailey and I’m sure trading Leddy was also for cap concerns (along with Devon Toews). I’m not trying to bash Snow for the 1,253 time but it’s possible that his accounting of the future assets vs the revenue and cap was off. It seems to me like Lou has had to add by subtraction a few times here.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 2:41 PM ET
I think he meant (although I could be wrong) that he had to rid the isles of bad contracts like Ladd, now Bailey and I’m sure trading Leddy was also for cap concerns (along with Devon Toews). I’m not trying to bash Snow for the 1,253 time but it’s possible that his accounting of the future assets vs the revenue and cap was off. It seems to me like Lou has had to add by subtraction a few times here.
- kindlyrick


No question the Ladd and Bailey contracts hurt, but Lou added some big contracts as well. Nothing to do about Garth's time as GM now. Lou is in charge and he needs to fix it.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:55 PM ET
No question the Ladd and Bailey contracts hurt, but Lou added some big contracts as well. Nothing to do about Garth's time as GM now. Lou is in charge and he needs to fix it.
- ses111



I don’t think it’s as simple as it’s Lou’s job and he needs to fix it. There’s a lot of moving parts. My point in referencing Ladd and Bailey vs current contracts like Barzal and Horvat, is the latter are likely the isles first line. Ladd and Bailey were albatross’ in that money was spent on guys who weren’t playing. It would have been helpful obviously if the farm had more assets which is a fair expectation after 12 years of drafting.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 2:58 PM ET
Senators are saying draft picks don’t have to be part of trade for Debrincat. Could they possibly be looking for a a player whose name rhymes with smailey?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 3:06 PM ET
I don’t think it’s as simple as it’s Lou’s job and he needs to fix it. There’s a lot of moving parts. My point in referencing Ladd and Bailey vs current contracts like Barzal and Horvat, is the latter are likely the isles first line. Ladd and Bailey were albatross’ in that money was spent on guys who weren’t playing. It would have been helpful obviously if the farm had more assets which is a fair expectation after 12 years of drafting.
- kindlyrick


Things could have gone very different if Garth bothered to hire a decent coach. This is still very much Garth's roster. Lou has not done enough to add skill to the roster when he had the Cap space outside of Horvat. Hall of Fame GM has to figure out how to sign better FA's.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 28 @ 3:06 PM ET
David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
49s
Hearing Semyon Varlamov is leaning towards signing an extension with the #Isles. Sounds like it could be a two-year deal if/when it gets done. Also, Josh Bailey remains out there in the trade market as NYI try to free up his $5M cap hit.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 28 @ 3:07 PM ET
Senators are saying draft picks don’t have to be part of trade for Debrincat. Could they possibly be looking for a a player whose name rhymes with smailey?
- Cptmjl

Trevor Daley retired dude
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 3:11 PM ET
David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
49s
Hearing Semyon Varlamov is leaning towards signing an extension with the #Isles. Sounds like it could be a two-year deal if/when it gets done. Also, Josh Bailey remains out there in the trade market as NYI try to free up his $5M cap hit.

- eichiefs9


Have to think Varly gets more games this year to keep Sorokin fresher. I'd rather not give up a decent pick to have to move Bailey.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
Things could have gone very different if Garth bothered to hire a decent coach. This is still very much Garth's roster. Lou has not done enough to add skill to the roster when he had the Cap space outside of Horvat. Hall of Fame GM has to figure out how to sign better FA's.
- ses111



It’s why he should have rebuilt but unfortunately the ownership just dropped a lot of money on a new arena so he had to make it work. Not ideal but I have faith the isles will be better next year.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 28 @ 3:39 PM ET
It’s why he should have rebuilt but unfortunately the ownership just dropped a lot of money on a new arena so he had to make it work. Not ideal but I have faith the isles will be better next year.
- kindlyrick

No issues with going for it when they did. It was the right move.

But the last two seasons haven't been good and they're still clinging to the idea that they're a real contender and they're not.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 3:41 PM ET
It’s why he should have rebuilt but unfortunately the ownership just dropped a lot of money on a new arena so he had to make it work. Not ideal but I have faith the isles will be better next year.
- kindlyrick


They need a young GM with personality that can sell a vision and sign quality FA's.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 3:43 PM ET
No issues with going for it when they did. It was the right move.

But the last two seasons haven't been good and they're still clinging to the idea that they're a real contender and they're not.

- eichiefs9


Bingo! It was working with Barry and they had two ECF runs. They then did not follow up on those runs and add talent to help get the team over the top and they missed their window now very likely. You cannot come from one game of the Cup and just add Chara and Parise during that offseason.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 28 @ 3:57 PM ET
Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
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JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jun 28 @ 4:26 PM ET
If that's the case then it pretty much only applies to Lee, who signed his big ticket in July of 2019. Nelson signed that May, but I don't think there's a single complaint about his deal.

Otherwise all the deals you could take issue with were signed 2020 or later.

- eichiefs9

Lee is the guy I was thinking Lou had in mind when he made the comment. Lou probably wishes the contract was 2 or 3 years shorter. Lee has been a warrior for the team over the years, but has not been quite the force he was a few years ago. In fact, his +/- has been negative the past two seasons.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 28 @ 4:45 PM ET
Lee is the guy I was thinking Lou had in mind when he made the comment. Lou probably wishes the contract was 2 or 3 years shorter. Lee has been a warrior for the team over the years, but has not been quite the force he was a few years ago. In fact, his +/- has been negative the past two seasons.
- JohnScammo


Have to think so John. If Lou was not happy with the Bo contract, he must have hated giving Lee 7 years.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: REJECTED REFEREE
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 28 @ 4:59 PM ET
Lee is the guy I was thinking Lou had in mind when he made the comment. Lou probably wishes the contract was 2 or 3 years shorter. Lee has been a warrior for the team over the years, but has not been quite the force he was a few years ago. In fact, his +/- has been negative the past two seasons.
- JohnScammo

Lee was definitely one of the ones who came to mind for me. They signed that in July 2019 at a time that they most certainly though revenue would continually climb. Palmieri may have been another. It's tough to say. He may have been generalizing more than we're interpreting but it certainly was a surprising admission, albeit correct.
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