Him feeding pucks to Quinn and Savoie will be nice
- Fattony1187

In a year or two:

Benson-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Quinn
Skinner-Mittelstadt-Savoie
Kulich-Krebs-Rosen

And last offseason the same sword swallowers were killing him for not getting scoring. All of this is so revisionist history

So Joker and Boosh were question marks? Yes, on a very good team Joker is a bottom pair guy Boosh is a 6-7. So yeah, we found out that *ideally* we need a 4D. It wasn't an achilles heel by any stretch of the imagination.

To put it another way, I'd say that we had one of the better D corps in the league on opening night. You don't think that Edmonton, Toronto, etc, would have traded their 6 for our 6?
- Slump Buster

Yes Joker and Lyubushkin were ? marks. Did we know how they would fit in there positions. No and obviously they weren't the best.
Really are Defense wasn't a Achilles Heal! I don't know what you were watching but I saw a team hang there goalie's out to dry a lot.
And No I don't think those teams would have taken are 6

He traded a 2nd for greenway. Didn't work out exactly how he wanted but he did make a move
- Fattony1187

Extrapolated over a full season, his goal total would have been 20 (and he was playing hurt). He is also big and fast - two things that everyone wants. That's not promising?

In a year or two:

Benson-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Quinn
Skinner-Mittelstadt-Savoie
Kulich-Krebs-Rosen
- Swedish_Jesus

Love all the skill, but they need some sandpaper.

Yes there are. 2nd and 3rd rounds are filled with D. Just most know are 3 years away and that might be generous
- Buff36

that's a non issue once we trade to BP

You absolutely can. Last I checked, he made moves in-season to bring in Greenway and Stillman. In limited sample size, they are promising.
- Slump Buster

Sure, and yes he brought in another 6-7 Dman to a team that had 5 already.

that's a non issue once we trade to BP
- TheSabresTaco

I actually think they are gonna trade for him.

And here's my Wisdom for Today!! Keep seeing people posting " Well he let the Kids Play". Yes he did, but you can still let them play and try to improve your team at the same time in other ways. Both things can be done at the same time.🤷🤷
- Buff36

He didn't want to lose their perceived franchise goalie from signing. I don't blame him one bit.
D on the other hand ... he should have fixed it last offseason with a vet to play next to Power...that was a major mistake relying on Joker there.
I see differences between the two situations.

Yes Joker and Lyubushkin were ? marks. Did we know how they would fit in there positions. No and obviously they weren't the best.
Really are Defense wasn't a Achilles Heal! I don't know what you were watching but I saw a team hang there goalie's out to dry a lot.
And No I don't think those teams would have taken are 6
- Buff36

Both players had been in the league for years. Joker was still young enough that there could have been more growth. I couldn't agree with you more - our main issue is the inability to play team defense. The forwards often left the D and goalie out to dry.

Again, we had a better D corps than several playoff teams. And Adams did effectively bring in 2 goalies last year - in the end it didn't work out the way he hoped it would.

I've been thinking the same thing. In a good way, too.
- LandlordTom

His fingerprints are all over these drafts .

-His hints of draft prospects in 2022 weeks before the draft end up being those players .


only player they did not draft was lane hutson

Yes Joker and Lyubushkin were ? marks. Did we know how they would fit in there positions. No and obviously they weren't the best.
Really are Defense wasn't a Achilles Heal! I don't know what you were watching but I saw a team hang there goalie's out to dry a lot.
And No I don't think those teams would have taken are 6
- Buff36

Bushboy was injured.
Joker sucks.
Donnie's sytem of No D was a major, major contributor.

He didn't want to lose their perceived franchise goalie from signing. I don't blame him one bit.
D on the other hand ... he should have fixed it last offseason with a vet to play next to Power...that was a major mistake relying on Joker there.
I see differences between the two situations.
- IonSabres

Yes this year for Levi, and it cost them the playoffs. But Goalie has been a issue for 3 years.

I am 99% certain that Adams was trying to trade for Musty.

Sure, and yes he brought in another 6-7 Dman to a team that had 5 already.
- Buff36

I don't disagree with that at all. So again, his major dereliction of duty is that none of the 5 made the jump to play 4D. That's what all of this female dogging boils down to. Again, you take out the losing streak in the fall when it was decimated by injuries and we are a playoff team.

I am 99% certain that Adams was trying to trade for Musty.
- TheSabresTaco

Only 99%

Huh? Two thirds of the roster are trending up. Could they upgrade at 3rd line wing or 6d? Sure., maybe. Is that what you are complaining about?
- Slump Buster

This is what I can’t stand (not you, just this attitude)

Oh we’re all set we only have like two holes on the roster

New Jersey- scored 5 less goals than us last year or 5 more something like that-

What do they do? Go and get a top 6 winger

They had undeniably better goaltending yet they are the #1 team in on Hellebyuck.

Aren’t you the one saying we’re here to build a cup team not just a playoff one?

So let me guess now, we can’t win a cup until Zach Benson is a top 6 contributor 3-4 years down the road?

Love all the skill, but they need some sandpaper.
- Powerslave

Swap Rosen with Greenway

I'm convinced you're part of the scouting staff in some way.
- MGK1

You could be onto something…… according to my source Musty was one of the players Adams was trying to trade up for.


So Gerbe almost called this one

I am 99% certain that Adams was trying to trade for Musty.
- TheSabresTaco

He was. He loved the kid and has known him for a very long time. Benson was just too good of a value to pass up

Swap Rosen with Brett Pesce and his 6 year extension
- Swedish_Jesus

Not a bad idea, good call

Extrapolated over a full season, his goal total would have been 20 (and he was playing hurt). He is also big and fast - two things that everyone wants. That's not promising?
- Slump Buster

Never said he wasn't promising. Didn't give us that push to get over the hump last year. Was just saying he did make a move though last year, might not be the player people wanted but he made one.

Also added size which this team needed. I think he could be a good 4th line player

This is what I can’t stand (not you, just this attitude)

Oh we’re all set we only have like two holes on the roster

New Jersey- scored 5 less goals than us last year or 5 more something like that-

What do they do? Go and get a top 6 winger

They had undeniably better goaltending yet they are the #1 team in on Hellebyuck.

Aren’t you the one saying we’re here to build a cup team not just a playoff one?

So let me guess now, we can’t win a cup until Zach Benson is a top 6 contributor 3-4 years down the road?
- sbroads24

I think you missed part of the conversation yesterday. So why did Jersey go out and get Meier? Because they didn't have a Tuch. Why did they get Hamilton? Because they don't have a Power or Dahlin. They were filling holes. They didn't go out and get a second Tuch or a second Dahlin. Same thing with Vegas - they had a huge gaping hole at 1C so they got Jack. We don't have those holes.

Better yet, lets take it a step further. Jersey went into opening night with their own version of UPL/Comrie as their backup (Blackwood) and he crapped the bed. So did the goaltending on a lot of other teams, because it is a crap shoot. You were shot in the rear with all of the moves that Fitzgerald made - he currently has only 16 players signed and he is seeing some pretty good players walking out the door. No holes there? Are you on their board railing the GM? Funny how that - in your mind - the offseason has ended for Adams already yet it hasn't even started for the rest of the league.

He was. He loved the kid and has known him for a very long time. Benson was just too good of a value to pass up
- Sabretooth9

I've heard rumors that there are some pretty surprising names being floated out there as possibilities on defense. Have you heard that as well?

I think you missed part of the conversation yesterday. So why did Jersey go out and get Meier? Because they didn't have a Tuch. Why did they get Hamilton? Because they don't have a Power or Dahlin. They were filling holes. They didn't go out and get a second Tuch or a second Dahlin. Same thing with Vegas - they had a huge gaping hole at 1C so they got Jack. We don't have those holes.

Better yet, lets take it a step further. Jersey went into opening night with their own version of UPL/Comrie as their backup (Blackwood) and he crapped the bed. So did the goaltending on a lot of other teams, because it is a crap shoot. You were shot in the rear with all of the moves that Fitzgerald made - he currently has only 16 players signed and he is seeing some pretty good players walking out the door. No holes there? Are you on their board railing the GM? Funny how that - in your mind - the offseason has ended for Adams already yet it hasn't even started for the rest of the league.
- Slump Buster

Which good players are the Devils seeing walk out the door?

Looks like their GM identified their core and are cycling through the other roster spots to try and improve.

Remember they have both Hughes and Nemec coming soon on defense.

It's why Graves and Severson were expendable.

You could be onto something…… according to my source Musty was one of the players Adams was trying to trade up for.


So Gerbe almost called this one
- Sabretooth9

But didn't and he said Benson was his favorite player in the draft, not that they were drafting him.