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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 28 @ 10:49 AM ET
I will not make a single excuse for Kevyn to not do what needs to be done. He needs to pay up.

That doesn't mean that these real trades for real players that teams really want aren't a challenge.

- TheSabresTaco

They are, that's why he's using different colored Markers!
Red: Hot and Spicey
Orange: Flame is turning up
Yellow: Would be Good for are Team, but afraid to pull the Trigger.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 28 @ 10:50 AM ET
Wow, that is.... tempting. I think I would have to do it as it is it checks both short-and-long-term boxes. I have a feeling that Winnipeg would want more than that.
- Slump Buster


Winnipeg needs a top-6 center with RFA control and those are incredibly expensive
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:50 AM ET
They are. We don’t need to hear about it.

Go make a god damn move then tell us it was difficult

Stop making built in excuses for Slump Buster to bring up in September when their big acquisition was Caleb Jones for a 3LD.

Go get a top 4 D and shut up about it

- sbroads24


right to the (frank)ing point. get the job done and quit b1tchin about it.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 28 @ 10:51 AM ET
Good pre free agency content

https://edmontonjournal.c...be-but-no-cause-for-alarm

👀👀👀

- Hank Balling


Boy, there is some strong similarities to the Sabres need for Defensive Focus to significantly reduce GA's.
Good read, thanks for sharing.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 28 @ 10:51 AM ET
Mock trade:

Sabres trade Mittelstadt and UPL for Hellebuyck extended 1 year at $8.5 (completed July 1)

Hellebuyck wants to wait one year to sign a longer deal for the cap to go up

- Hank Balling


Umm. If you extended him 2-3 years at that price. I am okay with it


The Sabres don’t want to spend that much on a goalie though
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:52 AM ET
I would be hard pressed to believe Adams hasn't prioritized current and future strong mobile transition defensemen and that starts tonight
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:53 AM ET
He talked about the need to make "tough choices" when discussing the need to win.

Adams showed his hand here. It's coming.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 28 @ 10:54 AM ET
He talked about the need to make "tough choices" when discussing the need to win.

Adams showed his hand here. It's coming.

- TheSabresTaco

Oh God!! Has Boss been stroking the Bobblehead again!!😇
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:55 AM ET
I will not make a single excuse for Kevyn to not do what needs to be done. He needs to pay up.

That doesn't mean that these real trades for real players that teams really want aren't a challenge.

- TheSabresTaco


I was thinking about this last night. I mean this as a legit question and not trying to troll anyone. What exactly needs to be done?

For example, I am going to assume that a player that is trending upwards is going to be on the roster. It is highly unlikely that we would trade Krebs, Quinn, because they are young and still trending up. Prospect-for-prospect trades are very rare and generally only made when an org doesn't like a prospect.

So with that in mind, what parts of the roster are really up for grabs?

4D
Yup, needs to happen. No excuses, we can hit a home run here. This has to happen.


4th line
Sure, I don't think anyone wanted both Girgs and Okposo. They were *fine* last year. They have a purpose, and it isn't just leadership. They both won't be back next year but are fine for another year.

Goalie
Should happen

5 - 6 D
A move could happen here, although having Joker here isn't a bad thing. Stillman showed some good underlying numbers after we got him.

So I think we all agree that 4d and goalie upgrade needs to happen. After that, I don't get where the "do something else" crowd is looking for a move to be made. In other words, is it a bad thing if we bring back a player that is still trending up? Our best chance for taking the next jump is Quinn, Power, JJ, Cousins taking that next step.

Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 28 @ 10:56 AM ET
The ideal goalie would be John Gibson.

His cap hit and contract term aligns with what Adams is looking for.


Not saying we trade for him. Just saying in terms of what he’s looking for
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:56 AM ET
Umm. If you extended him 2-3 years at that price. I am okay with it


The Sabres don’t want to spend that much on a goalie though

- Sabretooth9


Their main trade assets (picks and mid prospects) will be prioritized on a top 4 D. The rest goes to the potential goalie market. Think Olofsson gets shed for a pick in 2032 and replaced in free agency.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 10:58 AM ET
The ideal goalie would be John Gibson.

His cap hit and contract term aligns with what Adams is looking for.


Not saying we trade for him. Just saying in terms of what he’s looking for

- Sabretooth9


Does John Gibson get you more wins than UPL? And does the cost of acquisition and the contract match the pros he brings to the team?
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jun 28 @ 10:58 AM ET
I'm not jumping into this pool. The projected ceiling of Smith is at least an entire tier ahead of Moore.

None the less, fascinating stat.

- TheSabresTaco


Id still say smith is better, but if i can find a guy who can score at evens like Smith, a top 5 projected player, at 13th overall who also has the skating moore does, I have to think he's gotta get serious consideration.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:00 AM ET
The ideal goalie would be John Gibson.

His cap hit and contract term aligns with what Adams is looking for.


Not saying we trade for him. Just saying in terms of what he’s looking for

- Sabretooth9


How could that contract term be desirable? I go back and forth with some of the guys here because I don't want to do something that puts our cap in a bad space x years from now. I can see their "figure it out later" if we are going for a guy like Meier. But for a backup goalie?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:00 AM ET
Does John Gibson get you more wins than UPL? And does the cost of acquisition and the contract match the pros he brings to the team?
- TheSabresTaco


Yes
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 28 @ 11:01 AM ET
Colton to Colorado
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 28 @ 11:01 AM ET
He talked about the need to make "tough choices" when discussing the need to win.

Adams showed his hand here. It's coming.

- TheSabresTaco



washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 28 @ 11:01 AM ET
Colton to Colorado
- Buff36



Girgs and Greenway are better…….
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
Paul Hamilton on in 5 minutes to call the fans impatient idiots and that type of thing. You're going to want to tune in
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jun 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
Girgs and Greenway are better…….
- washedup20

See what it's for
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
Yep. 2032

https://twitter.com/TheRo...7apGGsoSgr0MFSts9Sqg&s=19
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:04 AM ET
Yes
- Hank Balling


Does he actually or do you like the name from 2018?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jun 28 @ 11:05 AM ET
Does he actually or do you like the name from 2018?
- TheSabresTaco


I like his GAR and WAR versus UPL. He also tends to start strong and sink due to workload so I think there's a natural fit as a split starter here
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 28 @ 11:06 AM ET
Paul Hamilton on in 5 minutes to call the fans impatient idiots and that type of thing. You're going to want to tune in
- Hank Balling

The Sabres need a new beat reporter in the worst way.

The dude is awful.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 28 @ 11:07 AM ET
Yep. 2032

https://twitter.com/TheRo...7apGGsoSgr0MFSts9Sqg&s=19

- TheSabresTaco

https://twitter.com/bucci...&t=aPpesQ9OFgU8cA3wnTdNeA
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