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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:04 PM ET
Flyers signed Louie Belpedio to a not 1 but 2 year deal. Apparently, DB learned much from CF -- already wasting contract slots. Imagine if that is our big splash after Provorov
- mr4tno



There is nothing wrong with that deal. Every year teams sign veteran players for the AHL. His AAV is below the threshold where they can waive him and assign him to the AHL with no cap penalty.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 24 @ 9:06 PM ET
From ASF:

“ Just told the Flyers-Blues trade will not be finalized tonight. See you tomorrow with more. There’s a barstool calling my name tonight.”

Blame Krug.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Jun 24 @ 9:09 PM ET
Trading Sanheim to unload Hayes. Kinda hate it.

We’ll see what the final details are though.

- StepfordSam

This is true, but it eliminates the "trading x player of value to get rid of Sanheim's contract" in a year or two.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:12 PM ET
This is true, but it eliminates the "trading x player of value to get rid of Sanheim's contract" in a year or two.
- mr4tno


They don't have to do that in a year or two.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 24 @ 9:13 PM ET
https://phillyhockeynow.c...-hayes-and-other-players/

Some updates and possible TDL back to Carolina. Yes rumors are fun.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:17 PM ET
imagine a defense with risto and krug, would almost guarantee us the no1 overall pick.
- Flyerloon

Year too late.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 24 @ 9:22 PM ET
Wonder if Schenn is part of the return coming the flyers way....
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 24 @ 9:29 PM ET
I mentioned using Laughton to move Hayes, Sanheim, somewhat the same. I am not one who thinks Sanheim does not hold value and can’t up his game, get fair return and fine but don’t be a dump
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:35 PM ET
Wonder if Schenn is part of the return coming the flyers way....
- hello it's me 2050


Haha
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:39 PM ET
Wonder if Schenn is part of the return coming the flyers way....
- hello it's me 2050


Has five years of term remaining, makes only slightly less than Hayes and will be 32 in late August. Also has a NTC so he'd have to waive to come back to Flyers amid a rebuild.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:41 PM ET
Has five years of term remaining, makes only slightly less than Hayes and will be 32 in late August. Also has a NTC so he'd have to waive to come back to Flyers amid a rebuild.
- bmeltzer

Going to be a lot of this. Philadelphia is not an attractive destination right now.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 24 @ 9:42 PM ET
Has five years of term remaining, makes only slightly less than Hayes and will be 32 in late August. Also has a NTC so he'd have to waive to come back to Flyers amid a rebuild.
- bmeltzer

need to know when to sense sarcasm Bill!!!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 9:44 PM ET
Going to be a lot of this. Philadelphia is not an attractive destination right now.
- Flyers1218


Imagine being asked to waive your NTC to play for torts
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 24 @ 9:47 PM ET
need to know when to sense sarcasm Bill!!!
- hello it's me 2050


It's actually rumored... so is Kyrou... but I don't see either.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 24 @ 9:48 PM ET
From Pierre LeBrun:

“ Further to
@FriedgeHNIC
, Carolina working to complete a Tony DeAngelo trade which likely will be completed Sunday. Flyers would retain 50 percent on DeAngelo. Flyers would be getting a prospect from Carolina.”


Next couple of days are going to be real interesting.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 24 @ 9:51 PM ET
It's actually rumored... so is Kyrou... but I don't see either.
- bmeltzer

oh, then that would be funny. Yeah makes no sense why he would waive at this point in is career
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 24 @ 9:53 PM ET
There is nothing wrong with that deal. Every year teams sign veteran players for the AHL. His AAV is below the threshold where they can waive him and assign him to the AHL with no cap penalty.
- MJL

they do, yet how many give out 2 year deals? no need for a 2 year deal for that type f player.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:56 PM ET
From Pierre LeBrun:

“ Further to
@FriedgeHNIC
, Carolina working to complete a Tony DeAngelo trade which likely will be completed Sunday. Flyers would retain 50 percent on DeAngelo. Flyers would be getting a prospect from Carolina.”


Next couple of days are going to be real interesting.

- Sublime55

i can live with it
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 24 @ 9:59 PM ET
i can live with it
- 2Real


It feels good to have some optimism and know there’s an actual plan being executed for a change.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:01 PM ET
It feels good to have some optimism and know there’s an actual plan being executed for a change.
- Sublime55

yea i'm glad we aren't doing any of this half-assed retooling maybe we can have some exciting youth to watch in the next few years instead of constant mediocre stop gaps
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:05 PM ET
yea i'm glad we aren't doing any of this half-assed retooling maybe we can have some exciting youth to watch in the next few years instead of constant mediocre stop gaps
- 2Real

The fans have been begging for this for years. It was so obvious that they lacked any sort of star power. They had some nice players but no game changes.

I also am curious if the lockeroom (as has been alluded to several times) is so bad that they are totally gutting it, even some players that are young enough to fit the rebuild timeline.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 24 @ 10:06 PM ET
they do, yet how many give out 2 year deals? no need for a 2 year deal for that type f player.
- hello it's me 2050


if hes a real good locker room guy for the kids in the ahl and a good ahl player, its probably a good move. Cant ignore those kids, they need good role models. I have no idea if he is, but if he is, im for the signing. hes not old, so he can relate to the young guys.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:11 PM ET
It's actually rumored... so is Kyrou... but I don't see either.
- bmeltzer

Why In the flying squirrels azz would stl trade kyrou?
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 24 @ 10:50 PM ET
Depends on the assets. I did not believe that Sanheim is a max term player but he's still a good player. I'm not interested in giving him away just to get out from the contract.
- MJL


Latest from O’Connor and Rutherford for the Athletic says, even if they can’t work it out with Krug STL would still trade a 1st rd pick for Hayes with salary retained.

So really, Sanheim in the deal is for Krug, not as a way to get STL to take Hayes. They’re swapping Sanheim’s 8yr contract for Krug’s 4yr contract. Basically 2 separate deals made into 1.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 24 @ 10:59 PM ET
Great at what? Being a distraction for team’s failures? Please tell me you aren’t gullible enough to fall the management board’s lazy attempts to placate fans while they sold everyone a steaming pile of nonsense.
- Sublime55


Lighten up man, Gritty is there for kids. They literally said one of the main reasons they created him was for community events that players couldn’t always attend because of travel or off-season. When the Phantoms were still in Philly the Flyers used Phlex and the Phantoms Patrol for those events and in between periods to toss tshirts around.
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