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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 25 @ 7:59 PM ET
says who?
- fidopro


yeah, the only thing I've heard is that LA was on his list, not the opposite.
Vanillaface
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.25.2013

Jun 25 @ 8:06 PM ET
Dubois ceiling is higher than Dach. He was a 55-60 point centre when he was Dach's age and was a 70 point pace his season scoring 48 in his first 41 games. Dach's ceiling is what PLD is now, Dubois still has a potential 70-80 point ceiling.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 25 @ 8:10 PM ET
Dubois ceiling is higher than Dach. He was a 55-60 point centre when he was Dach's age and was a 70 point pace his season scoring 48 in his first 41 games. Dach's ceiling is what PLD is now, Dubois still has a potential 70-80 point ceiling.
- Vanillaface

possible, difficult to know for sure. in a plan where Habs won't be ready to compete before 2-3 years... I like Dach, and his contract.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:15 PM ET
possible, difficult to know for sure. in a plan where Habs won't be ready to compete before 2-3 years... I like Dach, and his contract.
- fidopro


same here, what's not to like... Dach is only 22, so he's 3 years younger than Dubois, and he's potentially got plenty of upside left to show imho. anyone who says he's already hit his ceiling hasn't really been paying attention to his game.
Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

Jun 25 @ 8:23 PM ET
yeah, the only thing I've heard is that LA was on his list, not the opposite.
- Pat1993


hes playing hardball with the kings on term $$....doesn't sound like an easy negotiation at all.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:30 PM ET
hes playing hardball with the kings on term $$....doesn't sound like an easy negotiation at all.
- Hockey Pucker


who's reporting this? it isn't all that surprising anyway, it's a business after all, and it's expected that there's back and forth between both parties involved when it comes to negotiating a multi-year deal, but because of his "red flag" reputation, people will automatically assume that he's the one being difficult.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 25 @ 8:38 PM ET
ouin, de toute façon j'ai toujours eu mes doutes sur cette fenêtre là et les règles concernant ce qui est permis et ce qui ne l'est pas en termes de communications entre joueurs, agents et directeurs généraux. me semble que c'est trop facile d'avoir des ptites conversations incognito de façon non-officielle pour tâter le terrain, sans que personne soit au courant...
- Pat1993


Jon Cooper told Corey Perry during the handshake line that they wanted to sign him when he would reach free agency.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:39 PM ET
Jon Cooper told Corey Perry during the handshake line that they wanted to sign him when he would reach free agency.
- stinger67


ugh, that smug face mother (frank)er. there was Ducherov, and now this.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 25 @ 8:41 PM ET
ugh, that smug face mother (frank)er. there was Ducherov, and now this.
- Pat1993


If that's not tampering, I don't know what is.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 25 @ 8:44 PM ET
If that's not tampering, I don't know what is.
- stinger67


well like I was saying, you can put as many official rules and guidelines in place, it seems basically impossible to be 100% certain that no conversations are taking place outside of the allotted window...
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 25 @ 8:49 PM ET
Jon Cooper told Corey Perry during the handshake line that they wanted to sign him when he would reach free agency.
- stinger67

can't blame him, that (frank)er was a hell of a player. imagine if we had drafted him 20 years ago
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 25 @ 11:01 PM ET
Dubois ceiling is higher than Dach. He was a 55-60 point centre when he was Dach's age and was a 70 point pace his season scoring 48 in his first 41 games. Dach's ceiling is what PLD is now, Dubois still has a potential 70-80 point ceiling.
- Vanillaface


Maybe.

Maybe not.

Perhaps PLD has hit his ceiling.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 25 @ 11:03 PM ET
hes playing hardball with the kings on term $$....doesn't sound like an easy negotiation at all.
- Hockey Pucker


Apparently, they have not given permission to negotiate yet.

As least as of earlier this evening.

So....
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 25 @ 11:04 PM ET
Also, is Karine gonna draft a goalie? and which one?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:19 PM ET
Also, is Karine gonna draft a goalie? and which one?
- Mashadar


I dont think shes the one making the pick in Nashville
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jun 26 @ 6:43 AM ET
hes playing hardball with the kings on term $$....doesn't sound like an easy negotiation at all.
- Hockey Pucker


Never believed PLD had a primary goal of getting to Montreal. From the beginning his agent used Montreal as a negotiation wedge. "My guy would love Montreal" has the singular purpose of making it known that you need to pay more if you want him in LA or on any other team.

Dubois is no different than most players. He wants to play for a team that will pay him the most money. It is too bad. He can be a dominate player and with the right attitude he could be a great fan favourite.
Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

Jun 26 @ 8:10 AM ET
things may not be progressing as quickly as originally reported.


Scott Billeck
@ScottBilleck
Perhaps some context as to why the Jets/Kings have become silent over the past several hours...

Told by a couple people today that Dubois' camp hadn't been given permission yet to talk extension with the Kings. Uncertain if that has changed as of now.

doesn't sound very promising...these things usually get done boom boom boom once the deal is negotiated.....so there you go
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 26 @ 8:44 AM ET
On PLD, Pierre Lebrun says LAK is the front runner having assets ready to play in the NHL, Habs are earlier in their rebuild. Both the Jets, LAK and the agents were all traveling to Nashville for the NHL award and the draft, negotiation will continue in Nashville.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 26 @ 9:18 AM ET
Dubois ceiling is higher than Dach. He was a 55-60 point centre when he was Dach's age and was a 70 point pace his season scoring 48 in his first 41 games. Dach's ceiling is what PLD is now, Dubois still has a potential 70-80 point ceiling.
- Vanillaface

To be fair. Their projections were very close until Dach lost his hand for 2 years. At this point, PLD is and probably will continue to be the better player with the better ceiling. But this shouldn't be a Dach vs PLD, unless you're framing it in terms of value paid for the potential asset.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 26 @ 9:18 AM ET
canada, good morning.
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 26 @ 9:31 AM ET
On PLD, Pierre Lebrun says LAK is the front runner having assets ready to play in the NHL, Habs are earlier in their rebuild. Both the Jets, LAK and the agents were all traveling to Nashville for the NHL award and the draft, negotiation will continue in Nashville.
- Symba007


Habs are still in it..
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:32 AM ET
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AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 26 @ 9:32 AM ET
canada, good morning.
- kicksave856


Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 26 @ 9:32 AM ET
Habs are still in it..
- AGalchenyuk27

as long as Dubois stays firm with LA and makes the LAK offer fail...yes
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 26 @ 9:34 AM ET

- AGalchenyuk27

one day i will slap you so hard.
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