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boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:07 AM ET
8 a.m. Central. 10 hours to go.

And no trades yet today. Let's go.
Octavarium
New York Islanders
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:08 AM ET
You know what they say about opinions and bumholes ….
- paulr



Fair enough.
You think he's going to be an E---elite level player.
I think he's going to be an A+ level player. (that A-hole opinion)

You could trade his rights for three A+ level players and build your core that way.
How many cups does mcdavid have? How many does Eichel have? Like I said, it would be a bold move. Your gm would get ripped. But it would give the Hawks a solid base for years of success. Rather than one guy you try and pidgeon hole people around.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:09 AM ET
??? Why would SJ have to give up a 1st, and why aren't they getting anything back? I get they don't really want/need him right now, but he's the reigning Norris winner and just had a monster offensive year.

Despite the fact that I don't really like D-men who are primarily point producers (I'm praying KK is even average defensively), He's easily held in high regard by the league. Typically a "middle man" team just gets a mid-round pick for doing so. Not sure they'd get one 1st, let alone 2.

- Chunk

I put it out there for discussion and you made some great points.
Any team that takes on $5.75 mil for 4 years will expect at least one first round pick plus something coming back. Because it is the #4 overall pick Chicago could also gives up the Tampa #1 pick in 2024.
If someone like Carolina sees him as putting them over the top they would be getting Karlson at an incredibly cheap cap hit for 4 years, they might be willing to give up a very late 1st round pick in 2023 (30th overall), one of their 2nd round picks in 2024 and an A level prospect.
San Jose would be getting cap space for 4 years, an A level prospect from Carolina's deep prospect pool (ranked number 10 by the Athletic), a 2024 2nd from Carolina and Tampa's 1st round pick in 2024.

Carolina gets Karlson at $5.75 mil for 4 years.
San Jose gets $5.75 mil cap room for 4 years, an A level prospect from Carolina, a 2024 2nd round pick from Carolina, Tampa's 1st round pick in 2024 from the Hawks.
Hawks get the #4 and #30 overall picks in the 2023 draft and a $5.75 mil cap hit for 4 years.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 28 @ 9:32 AM ET
New blog up!
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:36 AM ET
Fair enough.
You think he's going to be an E---elite level player.
I think he's going to be an A+ level player. (that A-hole opinion)

You could trade his rights for three A+ level players and build your core that way.
How many cups does mcdavid have? How many does Eichel have? Like I said, it would be a bold move. Your gm would get ripped. But it would give the Hawks a solid base for years of success. Rather than one guy you try and pidgeon hole people around.

- Octavarium

How many cups do Crosby and Kane have?
Another problem with this is where would the 1st round picks be each year. It would be unknown. lf they were from a contender they could all be mid-to-late first round picks.
NO F*^#ING WAY.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:54 AM ET
Fair enough.
You think he's going to be an E---elite level player.
I think he's going to be an A+ level player. (that A-hole opinion)

You could trade his rights for three A+ level players and build your core that way.
How many cups does mcdavid have? How many does Eichel have? Like I said, it would be a bold move. Your gm would get ripped. But it would give the Hawks a solid base for years of success. Rather than one guy you try and pidgeon hole people around.

- Octavarium


That's not really a fair argument.

The Hawks got super lucky that Duncan Keith turned into a player. He was an athlete for sure when drafted but his first year in the league was not pretty.

The Hawks were super high on Kessel and Staal. Not like Toews was an obvious choice. It doesn't seem like Kane was a run away pick either.

The top ten picks before that were Cam Barker and Jack Skille. Boqvist and Dach were the only top tens after that. Pretty mediocre. Barker got Leddy which was neat and Dach looks like an okayish secondary player. Certainly there were better options picked after both of them.

Problem is all those players had some kind of flaw and differing ceilings and it is very difficult to project where an 18 year old will land unless it is a McDavid or Crosby or OV or Bedard. If you have the opportunity to get a sure thing in a very uncertain process - you pick the sure thing and hope a few other darts land.
MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Jun 28 @ 10:10 AM ET
I don't think this kid is going to be what you think he will be.
I'd trade #1 to Anaheim. For their first this year, next year and the year after.(the latter 2 unprotected)

He's going to be a Tavares type player. Great hands, great shot, slow feet that get slower. And before you all rip away. Look at how good Lafreniere looked playing against boys. Or even Shayne Wright. He's good. But he's not Crosby or McDavid. It would be a bold move.

- Octavarium


Show me a video clip of someone catching him from behind. I'll wait.
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jun 28 @ 10:47 AM ET
I don't think this kid is going to be what you think he will be.
I'd trade #1 to Anaheim. For their first this year, next year and the year after.(the latter 2 unprotected)

He's going to be a Tavares type player. Great hands, great shot, slow feet that get slower. And before you all rip away. Look at how good Lafreniere looked playing against boys. Or even Shayne Wright. He's good. But he's not Crosby or McDavid. It would be a bold move.

- Octavarium


He could turn out to be Daigle or Wickenheiser.....and still, NO GM will pass him up as the #1 pick. Bedard to Hawks is a Done Deal!!!
Octavarium
New York Islanders
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
Show me a video clip of someone catching him from behind. I'll wait.
- MartiniMan



....in junior. Where half of them don't even make the NHL. Hell. Even in the world juniors....half of them don't make it to the NHL. We'll revisit this conversation in 3 years. Good luck hawk fans. Love your jersey. Still my favorite
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:05 PM ET
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:08 PM ET
I was wondering the same thing.

I am going to guess 98 with his name on it, b/c they know they cannot get beat to his selection.

- wiz1901

It won't be. They are selling jerseys with his name and the standard number they use on draft day. it will be either the year or when he was taken.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:11 PM ET
I see Johnson on 2nd line and Kurashev on line 3.

Think we see at least 1 “vet” added to the forward mix

- Revco38

Guttman will be on the 2nd or 3rd line. He is not the 4th line type and it would be a misuse of him in that kind of role. if you recall, both KD and LR had some very positive words about the kid and wanted to him to have surgery to get ready for this season instead of going to RFD and helping them. Which is what Guttman wanted to do
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