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-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:45 AM ET
Doesn’t it seem that Kurashev had better make a niche for himself, better improve or become more valuable in his role

ELSE

There is a slew of forwards who will start filtering through primarily at Rockford as apprenticeship

And although each is not exactly the same as Kurashev

All these drafted - particularly KD choices - could push Kurashev out of a job or in a platoon or shuffle in and out of lineup

Kurashev needs to become better and starting this season

- jhawk59

Agree. I think Kurashev is a 3rd line energy line guy. Skates well, OK IQ, decent hands, more or less plays a 200' game, not strong on the puck, not a real finisher, not overly physical, plays small.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:50 AM ET
https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1673429271782588416?t=HzIRofv1hMpk9HTVI0Fuow&s=01

I tell you corporations always ask some interesting, another word for dumb, questions, if this is true.

- BetweenTheDots

Take a psychology course and you’ll understand why certain questions or themes are asked. On the surface they may appear “dumb” but psychologists are trying to understand the thought processes and nature of the subject based on the answer, on any hesitations and on previous and subsequent questions.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:50 AM ET
I don't think the intention is to FLIP him right away. I think they got him to add some needed veteran and skill to the Top 6.

Now, he would be a fool NOT to listen to offers from other teams that would offer up a nice package for a 3 million Hall....still I think the plan is to keep Hall at least until the deadline, then see what the offers are like.

The Hawks NEED to have at least a little quality around Bedard, just to let him experience some success. Bedard and Hall on a Power Play is a pretty decent start.

- hawk35

One other question about Hall that I have not seen here. Will his heart be in it or is he dreading coming to a team that is pretty awful. He might like playing with Bedard, but he is at the place in his career where winning and playoff hockey means a lot.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:53 AM ET
KD made one big splash yesterday. I'm hoping for one more tomorrow at the draft, either by moving up from 19 or obtaining another 1st somehow.

-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:55 AM ET
Does anyone else think KD acquires draft picks in the early rounds of the 2025 draft or even the early rounds of 2026. If so that would indicate to me that KD understands he has a long road ahead of him and has to be patient.
Rota's Rooter
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 27 @ 9:56 AM ET
One other question about Hall that I have not seen here. Will his heart be in it or is he dreading coming to a team that is pretty awful. He might like playing with Bedard, but he is at the place in his career where winning and playoff hockey means a lot.
- -Doh-


Hopefully he acts like a pro and that situation doesn't occur.

I still find it funny that the Hawks were not on his 16 team no-trade list. Kinda makes you wonder who was.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 27 @ 9:57 AM ET
One other question about Hall that I have not seen here. Will his heart be in it or is he dreading coming to a team that is pretty awful. He might like playing with Bedard, but he is at the place in his career where winning and playoff hockey means a lot.
- -Doh-


Could his heart be in it any less than Kane’s was?
hpk90
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: North Potomac, MD
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:05 AM ET
Could his heart be in it any less than Kane’s was?
- LAHawk


Have Hall or Foligno said anything publicly about the trade?

boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:07 AM ET
One other question about Hall that I have not seen here. Will his heart be in it or is he dreading coming to a team that is pretty awful. He might like playing with Bedard, but he is at the place in his career where winning and playoff hockey means a lot.
- -Doh-


Well Chicago wasn't on his 16 team no trade list. If he didn't want to play for a cellar dweller, he should have added the Hawks to his list.

Also, at the beginning of the 2023-24 league season (July 1 ?) his NTC is modified to a 10 team no trade list for the remainder of his contract. I see him being moved as a rental at the 2025 TDL. He'll get his chance to play for a contender after a year and a half in purgatory. The better he performs the more he'll be in demand so he has some incentive to play well instead of going through the motions.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:11 AM ET
One other question about Hall that I have not seen here. Will his heart be in it or is he dreading coming to a team that is pretty awful. He might like playing with Bedard, but he is at the place in his career where winning and playoff hockey means a lot.
- -Doh-


As Rota mentioned can't believe the Hawks weren't on Hall's no trade list. Unless that was a complete oversight there's a reason for that.... Hall will be like the guys brought in last yr, playing for their next contract or play well to get traded.

Hall and his agent know the deal. If he plays well 1/2 the playoff teams will be after him at 3 mil retained by the Hawks.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:23 AM ET
Take a psychology course and you’ll understand why certain questions or themes are asked. On the surface they may appear “dumb” but psychologists are trying to understand the thought processes and nature of the subject based on the answer, on any hesitations and on previous and subsequent questions.
- paulr


If you think so, however on the flip side you got a kid being done with that interview thinking i really hope they don't draft me. I hope KD and Company don't ask those kinds of dumb questions
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:30 AM ET
If you think so, however on the flip side you got a kid being done with that interview thinking i really hope they don't draft me. I hope KD and Company don't ask those kinds of dumb questions
- BetweenTheDots

It has nothing to do with what I think, that is the purpose behind the seemingly cryptic questions. I’d bet most of the kids really didn’t think too much about it, unlike some GMs, athletes in general, and kids in particular, don’t tend to overthink things. Like you, I don’t see the point, and while we’re in the subject I also don’t see the point of the combine.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:42 AM ET
I’m bullish on Raddysh too, I’ve like him since his draft year and wanted the Hawks to take him instead of Krys.

There’s been lots of talk that Kurashev will be the only current Blackhawks forward (not including Reichel) that will be with the team when they are relevant again. While I think Kurashev could certainly stick around for a few years I think Raddysh has a better chance. Raddysh is top 6 now, but as the team gets better he could still contribute on the 3rd line.

- DarthKane



Raddysh had a nice yr for the Hawks. At 6ft 3in the 2nd rd pick has nice size and with only 150 NHL games played he has a season or two before he can be expected to start scratching the surface of his ceiling. ..... He had .47 pts per game last yr for 37 pts, 20 goals but a high shot percentage of 15.7, 15 PP pts, 3:05 TOI on the PP, a solid 16:34 at 5 on 5 and started 48% in the Ozone at 5 on 5.

Love to see him play a bit more physical and use his size/strength but the kid will go to the greasy areas. Depending on where he slots he might have a nice jump but with only 150 NHL games he's still developing.

Not known as a solid skater he makes me think about Wood. If Wood could get to Raddysh level skating with his IQ, shot and hands he might develop into a legit NHL power forward that can score.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:49 AM ET
So fans are going to learn what is a Shimoshev?

Once he arrives NHL and if he plays here

- jhawk59


Certainly a suitcase Nyuk nyuk nyuk
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:52 AM ET
As Rota mentioned can't believe the Hawks weren't on Hall's no trade list. Unless that was a complete oversight there's a reason for that.... Hall will be like the guys brought in last yr, playing for their next contract or play well to get traded.

Hall and his agent know the deal. If he plays well 1/2 the playoff teams will be after him at 3 mil retained by the Hawks.

- Mr Ricochet


That's the hidden value in this trade. I've heard/read a lot of complaints that KD didn't get a draft pick or other assets in addition to Hall. I don't think it was that type of of deal, plus the Bruins don't have much to offer.

KD will re-coop any "missing" draft picks when Hall is dealt at the 2025 deadline, and I fully expect he will be dealt. Barring a catastrophe I think LD should get at least a 2nd for Hall.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:53 AM ET
Take a psychology course and you’ll understand why certain questions or themes are asked. On the surface they may appear “dumb” but psychologists are trying to understand the thought processes and nature of the subject based on the answer, on any hesitations and on previous and subsequent questions.
- paulr


No doubt these psychology tests are a real thing in today's world and sometimes will amaze at how on point they can be or info gleaned from them. Profilers often can tell you a great deal about a serial killer before his identity is finally known.

I'm ok with the tests I guess but I think it can lead to over thinking. Can the kid skate, shoot, score? If so that's your guy regardless if says he'd drop bombs on his mates or not.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
I read in the Hockey news site that the Jets aren't getting many offers for Scheifele. He has a year left at 6.125M with a 10 team NTC. Would it require the Jets to attach something to move him? Would KD be interested if Chicago is not on his 10 team no trade? I heard he's not so good in the locker room though.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:04 AM ET
That's the hidden value in this trade. I've heard/read a lot of complaints that KD didn't get a draft pick or other assets in addition to Hall. I don't think it was that type of of deal, plus the Bruins don't have much to offer.

KD will re-coop any "missing" draft picks when Hall is dealt at the 2025 deadline, and I fully expect he will be dealt. Barring a catastrophe I think LD should get at least a 2nd for Hall.

- DarthKane


KD has been bold and made smaller moves for guys like D!ckinson. We have a small sample size how he operates and he seems to be the type that doesn't need to murdalize the other GM.

He seems reasonable that if you have what he wants or you have what he wants he'll find a way to get a deal done. ..... I think he's built some good will around the league as a fair broker that isn't looking to gouge your eyeballs out.

My first thought was he should have gotten a draft pick as well in the trade with BOS but reading around and thinking about it I think KD loved the idea of having Hall skate with Bedard so instead of trying to squeeze every once of blood outa Sweeney he said yea, gimme Hall and Foligno.

Plus the way he handled Kane and Toews' wishes last yr was well thought of around the league with both players and GMs.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
No doubt these psychology tests are a real thing in today's world and sometimes will amaze at how on point they can be or info gleaned from them. Profilers often can tell you a great deal about a serial killer before his identity is finally known.

I'm ok with the tests I guess but I think it can lead to over thinking. Can the kid skate, shoot, score? If so that's your guy regardless if says he'd drop bombs on his mates or not.

- Mr Ricochet


That's very true, but asking an 18 year old who's brain isn't fully developed if you are a captain and you have to bomb an enemy boat..... hell his answer might be different tomorrow or even he says one thing but in the situation might do something different. I believe the over thinking thing is spot on.

Maybe they want to make sure he's not a serial killer, hahaha
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 27 @ 11:08 AM ET
That's very true, but asking an 18 year old who's brain isn't fully developed if you are a captain and you have to bomb an enemy boat..... hell his answer might be different tomorrow or even he says one thing but in the situation might do something different.
- BetweenTheDots[/quote

How many 18 year olds in our armed services DO have to make those decisions? So it is ok to entrust them to make those decisions but it is out of bounds to ask an 18 year old hockey player?
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Jun 27 @ 11:08 AM ET
Foligno signed. 1 year @ 4M.

https://twitter.com/NHLBl...amp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:12 AM ET
I read in the Hockey news site that the Jets aren't getting many offers for Scheifele. He has a year left at 6.125M with a 10 team NTC. Would it require the Jets to attach something to move him? Would KD be interested if Chicago is not on his 10 team no trade? I heard he's not so good in the locker room though.
- boilermaker100


No BM, Schifele is a legit 1B or 2C. The 30 yr old is very talented offensively averaging .89 pts per game and popped 42 goals last yr. ..... Not a 200 ft player by any means but offensively very very good. ..... Watch CAR. He seems like he'd be insulated there with solid defensive players around him and they could damn sure use a 42 goal scorer. Pesce plus for Scheifele?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
Foligno signed. 1 year @ 4M.

https://twitter.com/NHLBl...amp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

- Popsghostly


Every agent is sending KD gift cards LOL
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
[quote=BetweenTheDots]That's very true, but asking an 18 year old who's brain isn't fully developed if you are a captain and you have to bomb an enemy boat..... hell his answer might be different tomorrow or even he says one thing but in the situation might do something different.
- LAHawk[/quote

How many 18 year olds in our armed services DO have to make those decisions? So it is ok to entrust them to make those decisions but it is out of bounds to ask an 18 year old hockey player?


How many? How many 18 year olds are a captain of a ship?

18 year olds follow orders that's what they do even if they say they won't in the military
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
How many? How many 18 year olds are a captain of a ship?

18 year olds follow orders that's what they do even if they say they won't in the military

- BetweenTheDots


In a fire fight do you think you wait for orders from Central Command? That doesn’t seem to be working for the Russians does it.
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