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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 27 @ 8:57 PM ET
He was allowed 2 five year plans Pat.

Was any other habs GM given that, I wonder..

- pete26


there was never a "five-year plan" with Bergevin, Pete, that was Pierre Gauthier.

he wasn't perfect, but he wasn't the most horrible GM ever, no one is gonna convince me of this lol.
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 27 @ 8:59 PM ET
there was never a "five-year plan" with Bergevin, Pete, that was Pierre Gauthier.

he wasn't perfect, but he wasn't the most horrible GM ever, no one is gonna convince me of this lol.

- Pat1993

No that was Rejean Houle lol
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:00 PM ET
there was never a "five-year plan" with Bergevin, Pete, that was Pierre Gauthier.

he wasn't perfect, but he wasn't the most horrible GM ever, no one is gonna convince me of this lol.

- Pat1993

Just wait until Hughes is shown the door...
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:00 PM ET
is drafting Michkov that risky..? how many times has a drafted Russian player refused or was prevented from playing in the NHL?
- Pat1993


I think it's the uncertainty with him. He might come here in 3 years, or he may stay in Russia. Some say he's the second best player in this draft, some say he has questionable attitude with his teammates, can't play in his own zone, etc....depends on who you read or who you listen to. Personally, I have no idea.

I've seen highlights of him. Seems really talented, but I wonder how he can adapt his game to North America's style. It seems so easy, but with a bigger ice surface over there talented players have so much time to drive the play and create offense. I'm always a bit skeptical until I've seen them play here.

It's another gamble, but if he finishes his contract in the KHL and comes to North America right after, Habs would have the opportunity to add a 21 year old potential star forward who has already been playing professionally for years, and who would come here playing on an entry level contract.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:00 PM ET
No that was Rejean Houle lol
- AGalchenyuk27


oh, right, thanks

Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:02 PM ET
I think it's the uncertainty with him. He might come here in 3 years, or he may stay in Russia. Some say he's the second best player in this draft, some say he has questionable attitude with his teammates, can't play in his own zone, etc....depends on who you read or who you listen to. Personally, I have no idea.

I've seen highlights of him. Seems really talented, but I wonder how he can adapt his game to North America's style. It seems so easy, but with a bigger ice surface over there talented players have so much time to drive the play and create offense. I'm always a bit skeptical until I've seen them play here.

It's another gamble, but if he finishes his contract in the KHL and comes to North America right after, Habs would have the opportunity to add a 21 year old potential star forward who has already been playing professionally for years, and who would come here playing on an entry level contract.

- stinger67


I'm aware there's a certain "gamble", but I feel people are making it way bigger than it actually is. I mean, the kid is gonna be at the draft with his agent, I'm aware it doesn't actually guarantee anything but by doing so he's definitely showing interest.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:04 PM ET
there was never a "five-year plan" with Bergevin, Pete, that was Pierre Gauthier.

he wasn't perfect, but he wasn't the most horrible GM ever, no one is gonna convince me of this lol.

- Pat1993


Oh no that was Houle.

Luckily there was still something in the cupboard when he got canned.

Bergeron left almost nothing of any value..
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:05 PM ET
Just wait until Hughes is shown the door...
- mr.peanut


nah, him and Gorton will just retire after winning 3 cups in 5 years.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:05 PM ET
there was never a "five-year plan" with Bergevin, Pete, that was Pierre Gauthier.

he wasn't perfect, but he wasn't the most horrible GM ever, no one is gonna convince me of this lol.

- Pat1993


Yeah, the 5 year plan was from the Gainey-Gauthier era. That was pinned on Bergevin's head for some reason.

...and yeah, he wasn't the worst. I think he had a plan to rebuild the team, but it got completely screwed up by that shortened 2013 season where the Habs made the playoffs when they weren't supposed to. After that, any talk of a rebuild made Geoff Molson's skin crawl, and they had to do some roof patching to stay in the playoffs picture.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:07 PM ET
Oh no that was Houle.

Luckily there was still something in the cupboard when he got canned.

Bergeron left almost nothing of any value..

- pete26


nothing of value

lol, ok

blinded by their hatred, those fans were
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:07 PM ET
I'm aware there's a certain "gamble", but I feel people are making it way bigger than it actually is. I mean, the kid is gonna be at the draft with his agent, I'm aware it doesn't actually guarantee anything but by doing so he's definitely showing interest.
- Pat1993


Of course, I guess there is also the Russia factor in there. Nobody knows what the future holds. Hey, maybe he told teams that he isn't going back to Russia...
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:07 PM ET
Oh no that was Houle.

Luckily there was still something in the cupboard when he got canned.

Bergeron left almost nothing of any value..

- pete26


Suzuki, Caufield, Xhekaj, Ghule, Harris, Mailloux, Romanov...


nothing of value. just complete crap.


whatever
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
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Jun 27 @ 9:09 PM ET
Of course, I guess there is also the Russia factor in there. Nobody knows what the future holds. Hey, maybe he told teams that he isn't going back to Russia...
- stinger67


too bad Prigozhin didn't go on with his civil war
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:10 PM ET
Oh no that was Houle.

Luckily there was still something in the cupboard when he got canned.

Bergeron left almost nothing of any value..

- pete26


Actually, and ironically, the cupboards were the best they've ever been under his tenure when he was fired.
The Judge
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 08.30.2021

Jun 27 @ 9:10 PM ET
Suzuki, Caufield, Xhekaj, Ghule, Harris, Mailloux, Romanov...


nothing of value. just complete crap.


whatever

- Pat1993



And a wealth of future draft picks, where typically, a new GM gets very few picks in the first 2-3 years, as the previous one traded them.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
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Jun 27 @ 9:11 PM ET
Actually, and ironically, the cupboards were as good as they've ever been when he was fired.
- stinger67


if you put on a pair of those hate glasses I'm sure you'll see differently.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:11 PM ET
Suzuki, Caufield, Xhekaj, Ghule, Harris, Mailloux, Romanov...


nothing of value. just complete crap.


whatever

- Pat1993


thats where it loses any kind of sense to me

the main reason this team has any future right now, well,its because of Bergevin. He got all their most imortant players

The new Gm did some good moves here and there, yeah, ok.

But the main pieces were there when he got here.

anyway
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:11 PM ET
if you put on a pair of those hate glasses I'm sure you'll see differently.
- Pat1993


I meant that he left the Habs with a lot of talent in the cupboards.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
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Jun 27 @ 9:12 PM ET
I meant that he left the Habs with a lot of talent in the cupboards.
- stinger67


I know, that's what I'm saying, Bergevin haters refuse to see any good that he made lol.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:12 PM ET
too bad Prigozhin didn't go on with his civil war
- Pat1993


Seems it was all a show...Didn't really see him as a savior though. He's as horrible as Putin.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:13 PM ET
I know, that's what I'm saying, Bergevin haters refuse to see any good that he made lol.
- Pat1993


Ahh

Tabarnac...J'ai de la misère avec mon anglais à soir
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:14 PM ET
Seems it was all a show...Didn't really see him as a savior though. He's as horrible as Putin.
- stinger67


yeah I know, the guy looks like he's a bit insane lol
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:15 PM ET
Ahh

Tabarnac...J'ai de la misère avec mon anglais à soir

- stinger67



GodIsaCatholic
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:16 PM ET
Anybody else starting to think Hughes might be a you know what? The more I hear him speak ...
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:18 PM ET
when you aren't even mature enough to say "homosexual"...

could we ban this (frank)ing account already?
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