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Forums :: Blog World :: Karine Hains: In Hainsight: With the Fifth Overall Pick the Canadiens Pick Reinbacher
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Habsolute009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 11:13 AM ET
I haven't seen any of them play like most of us, I am not an expert. We base our opinion on a few draft lists we see from people not good enough to work for NHL teams.

Draft is based on projections mostly, what they have done so far, their progression, their floor vs ceiling. Teams have scouting departments filled with people whose job is to watch and analyze everything these players do and do projections.

Habs have a new Mgmt group led by HuGo, I give them the benefit of the doubt, they know WAY more then I do about these guys. Let's be honest, we all have an opinion every year for every pick but we know (frank) all about these young players. I hear the Habs and the Arizona have been scouting Reinbacher all winter, they watched every game, practice, interviewed his coaches, teammates, talked to him many times. They own the decision now, up to them to work with him to make sure he develops the way they think he should, they seem very confident he was their guy.

- Symba007


Sometimes teams over analyze and get far to much into the analytics and intricacies that it makes the obvious choices become less clear. This is one of those scenarios IMO. Leonard and Michkov were the right choices. Still no top line talent on the Habs. The most glaring issue on this team.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jun 29 @ 11:14 AM ET
Isn't he like 87 years old by now?
- Mashadar

Close, but he'll be lucky to make it that far
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:14 AM ET
I thought he was talking about stinger after the Habs pick lol
- AGalchenyuk27

Not sure I would Lol that with Stinger he had a ruff last year
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:15 AM ET
Habs saw things differently.

You presume they did not pick who they believed to be the PBA.

I will trust HuGo on this and how Reinbacher fits into their plan.

- Mashadar


I think it's because Martin Lapointe is still there, they still see the boogeyman with him.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 11:15 AM ET
Sometimes teams over analyze and get far to much into the analytics and intricacies that it makes the obvious choices become less clear. This is one of those scenarios IMO. Leonard and Michkov were the right choices. Still no top line talent on the Habs. The most glaring issue on this team.
- Habsolute009


Sometimes fans just rant about believing they have better answers than the guys who have a plan in place and are executing on it.


kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 29 @ 11:16 AM ET
I thought he was talking about stinger after the Habs pick lol
- AGalchenyuk27

Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:16 AM ET
I thought he was talking about stinger after the Habs pick lol
- AGalchenyuk27


yeah same, I was like wtf
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 29 @ 11:17 AM ET
https://twitter.com/nodqd...tatus/1674235920663433222
- mr.peanut

ish
Habsolute009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 11:19 AM ET
Sometimes fans just rant about believing they have better answers than the guys who have a plan in place and are executing on it.
- Mashadar


What's Montreals track record again in drafting high up? What's different between this decision and the others the organization has prioritized in the past(positional need over BPA)? Different crew, same approach. To each their own I guess. Maybe the kid will prove me wrong, but if I was to actually wager on it? I'd put my money on Leonard & Michkov.
AGalchenyuk27
Location: He was responsible for the term “Gordie Howe hat trick”, where a player scored a goal, added an , NB
Joined: 02.05.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:19 AM ET

(frank), Gauthier to Tbay
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:20 AM ET
100% chance Julien Brisebois picks him at 37 if he's available.

So it's ducks, blue jackets, black hawks and sharks.

- Fredo

Bump
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
What's Montreals track record again in drafting high up? What's different between this decision and the others the organization has prioritized in the past(positional need over BPA)? Different crew, same approach. To each their own I guess. Maybe the kid will prove me wrong, but if I was to actually wager on it? I'd put my money on Leonard & Michkov.
- Habsolute009


this is a completely different team though so far, they've just started the rebuild. relax.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 11:22 AM ET
What's Montreals track record again in drafting high up? What's different between this decision and the others the organization has prioritized in the past(positional need over BPA)? Different crew, same approach. To each their own I guess. Maybe the kid will prove me wrong, but if I was to actually wager on it? I'd put my money on Leonard & Michkov.
- Habsolute009


Dude, we get it. You believe history is repeating itself. I am saying just because what has been done in the past by others does not mean that is what is being done here.

You insist they did not take the BPA, perhaps in their mind they did take the BPA.

Whatever, obviously you think you have a better plan in place for the Habs than HuGo.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:22 AM ET
(frank), Gauthier to Tbay
- AGalchenyuk27

Called it.

Can't wait for the we tried to draft guys from the Q but none were available and we draft the BPA press conference later
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 11:23 AM ET
Called it.

Can't wait for the we tried to draft guys from the Q but none were available and we draft the BPA press conference later

- Fredo


Oh FFS, not this poop again....
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:25 AM ET
Oh FFS, not this poop again....
- Mashadar


yeah, that poop gets tiring.
Habsolute009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
Dude, we get it. You believe history is repeating itself. I am saying just because what has been done in the past by others does not mean that is what is being done here.

You insist they did not take the BPA, perhaps in their mind they did take the BPA.

Whatever, obviously you think you have a better plan in place for the Habs than HuGo.

- Mashadar


Habs organization hasn't had a 'plan' in place for decades. That or said plan does not work organizationally. Patchwork as you go, pass on the top end first line talent is the status quo. They have plenty of overall Defensive talent and completely barren on top line talent. A chance to get that into the system FINALLY and pass it up for what most think will end up being a second pairing defenceman.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
Goalies going fast in the 2nd.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Symba thinks Prague is in Poland
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
Oh FFS, not this poop again....
- Mashadar

Hey it's not my fault. Well maybe in a small way it is.

But wanna bet it's gonna come up?
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
Habs organization hasn't had a 'plan' in place for decades. Patchwork as you go, pass on the top end first line talent is the status quo. They have plenty of overall Defensive talent and completely barren on top line talent. A chance to get that into the system FINALLY and pass it up for what most think will end up being a second pairing defenceman.
- Habsolute009


I am sure you are 100% right.

Thanks for sharing.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jun 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
Don’t know much about these draft choices.

But Fred has a strong case here, I think I’m gonna side with him..
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 29 @ 11:28 AM ET
Hey it's not my fault. Well maybe in a small way it is.

But wanna bet it's gonna come up?

- Fredo


Any reporter that asks this question should lose their press pass.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:29 AM ET
Don’t know much about these draft choices.

But Fred has a strong case here, I think I’m gonna side with him..

- pete26


doesn't take much to convince you, eh? jfc
Habsolute009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 11:30 AM ET
I am sure you are 100% right.

Thanks for sharing.

- Mashadar


I mean, its a message board about hockey and the draft. People going to talk about it. I prefer skepticism in this scenario instead of the usual 'in so and so we trust'. That's worked so well over the last 25 years

We'll be sure to revisit this in a couple years. If I'm wrong, I'll be more than happy to be in this scenario. Track record and history will likely be that I'm not.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 29 @ 11:31 AM ET
I mean, its a message board about hockey and the draft. People going to talk about it. I prefer skepticism in this scenario instead of the usual 'in so and so we trust'. That's worked so well over the last 25 years

We'll be sure to revisit this in a couple years. If I'm wrong, I'll be more than happy to be in this scenario. Track record and history will likely be that I'm not.

- Habsolute009


but fans have barely ever trusted, they whine all the (frank)ing time
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