I think it's still too early to close the book on Lekkerimaki, but this years first round choice was definitely an improvement.
- NorthNuck

In their defence, last years draft was awful

What really gets me about that is if you're taking Russians, why not take Michkov at 6 and hope Simashev makes it to 12?
- NorthNuck

Risky betting that Simashev would be there at 12. Unlikely he makes it past Van and I could also see the blues or caps taking him

In their defence, last years draft was awful
- CanuckDon

It was a let down on the high pick and later rounds better last year. The opposite of this years. But those are first impressions. Let’s see how the kids actually develop.

Horrible pick.
- Load Management

Better than not being drafted at all 🙃

4 mil x 1 Corey Perry

4 mil x 1 Corey Perry
- VANTEL

That’s insane

That’s insane
- CanuckDon

Yup

Better than not being drafted at all 🙃
- Shuswap Wap

You haven't seen the list of guys picked after him. I stand by my assessment. Just a brutal pick.

What really gets me about that is if you're taking Russians, why not take Michkov at 6 and hope Simashev makes it to 12?
- NorthNuck

Dhaliwal said something today that might explain why, apparently Michkov made it pretty clear to Arizona that he didn’t want to be drafted by them.

Calling a bust would be extreme I agree but still... it feels like a weak selection.
- boonerbuck

Any 1st round pick that needs 3 years of development is weak. The thing about 1st round picks is that they’re considered to be NHL ready or a year off.

Occasionally a team throws in that second year of development, but usually they at least try their first rounders in a handful of games.

You haven't seen the list of guys picked after him. I stand by my assessment. Just a brutal pick.
- Load Management

I'm reluctantly going to have to agree with you here!

Risky betting that Simashev would be there at 12. Unlikely he makes it past Van and I could also see the blues or caps taking him
- CanuckDon

Best D-man of the draft. This is who the Canucks definitely wanted but had to settle on Wallinder.

Anyone see this article?

https://www.dailyfaceoff....eam-in-the-salary-cap-era

2 out of 8 of the worst drafts by a team ever. And both happened in the last 15 years.

I don’t think as fans, an organization or a sport, we’re qualified to assess if we had a good draft or not

Any 1st round pick that needs 3 years of development is weak. The thing about 1st round picks is that they’re considered to be NHL ready or a year off.

Occasionally a team throws in that second year of development, but usually they at least try their first rounders in a handful of games.
- I-own_da-Northwest

This is completely false and you should be embarrassed for saying something so uninformed. Go back to any middle to late first round picks and you'll see how wrong you are. Go back 15 years and look at drafts that have played out and you'll see what a ridiculous statement that is. Nevermind these kids having to deal with Covid the past couple years.

2008...

#13 Colten Teubert took four years to develop
#15 Erik Karlsson took two years to develop in Sweden
#16 Joe Colborne took three years to develop
#17 Jake Gardiner took three years to develop
#22 Jordan Eberle took two years to develop
#27 John Carlson took two years to develop

2009...

#11 Ryan Ellis took three years to develop
#12 Calvin de Haan took three years to develop
#13 Zack Kassian took two & a half years to develop
#15 Peter Holland took three years to develop
#19 Chris Kreider took three & a half years to develop

That's just two quick looks at two drafts...

Just looking at the 4th round and beyond to see if it was only the Canucks taking overage players, turns out it's quite common. These teams took overage players in rounds four, five and six.

4 - Vancouver, Montreal, Nashville and Carolina.
5 - Anaheim, Chicago, San Jose, Montreal, Detroit, Carolina, Nashville, NYI, NYR, Winnipeg, Minnesota, Toronto and Dallas.
6 - Arizona, Chicago, Nashville, Colorado, Boston and Carolina.

This is completely false and you should be embarrassed for saying something so uninformed. Go back to any middle to late first round picks and you'll see how wrong you are. Go back 15 years and look at drafts that have played out and you'll see what a ridiculous statement that is. Nevermind these kids having to deal with Covid the past couple years.

2008...

#13 Colten Teubert took four years to develop
#15 Erik Karlsson took two years to develop in Sweden
#16 Joe Colborne took three years to develop
#17 Jake Gardiner took three years to develop
#22 Jordan Eberle took two years to develop
#27 John Carlson took two years to develop

2009...

#11 Ryan Ellis took three years to develop
#12 Calvin de Haan took three years to develop
#13 Zack Kassian took two & a half years to develop
#15 Peter Holland took three years to develop
#19 Chris Kreider took three & a half years to develop

That's just two quick looks at two drafts...
- LeftCoaster

Oh yea no totally you’re right. The game hasn’t changed in 15 years…

You proved my point. Anyone on that list that you mentioned that took more than 2 years ended up being a complete (frank)ing dud. Anyone on your list that took more than 2 years ended up being career 3rd pairing or bottom 6 guys.
Is that what you think first round picks should be???

I honestly think we should shoot for top 4D or top 6 forwards with our first rd picks.

Oh yea no totally you’re right. The game hasn’t changed in 15 years…

You proved my point. Anyone on that list that you mentioned that took more than 2 years ended up being a complete (frank)ing dud. Anyone on your list that took more than 2 years ended up being career 3rd pairing or bottom 6 guys.
Is that what you think first round picks should be???

I honestly think we should shoot for top 4D or top 6 forwards with our first rd picks.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Your assessment is completely out to lunch. First of all, for every kid that successful from pick #15 on in round one, you have five picks who just become bit players. You make it sound like all mid to late first rounders are successful, they're absolutely not.

Look at 2014, Sonny Milano #16 turned into a bit player, still took him three years to develop. Dud! #13 Jakub Vrana, two and half years before he saw an NHL game. #17 Travis Sanheim, three years he never saw an NHL game. He's a good player now. #18 Alex Tuch, three years to develop, now he's a great player.

Your comment is seriously flawed!! Mid to late first rounders take years to develop and 70% of them never become anything to mention. Just so you know, of the 210 kids picked in 2014, only 37 of them currently have 100 or more points. Only 10 of them have more than 300 points. The odds of becoming a good NHL player are extremely remote.

There's kids from the 2018 NHL draft who are just now becoming NHL regulars.

Canucks right shot defensemen now...

Tyler Myers
Ethan Bear
Kyle Burroughs
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Cole McWard
Filip Johansson
Tom Willander
Hunter Brzustewicz
Aiden Celebrini

Your assessment is completely out to lunch. First of all, for every kid that successful from pick #15 on in round one, you have five picks who just become bit players. You make it sound like all mid to late first rounders are successful, they're absolutely not.

Look at 2014, Sonny Milano #16 turned into a bit player, still took him three years to develop. Dud! #13 Jakub Vrana, two and half years before he saw an NHL game. #17 Travis Sanheim, three years he never saw an NHL game. He's a good player now. #18 Alex Tuch, three years to develop, now he's a great player.

Your comment is seriously flawed!! Mid to late first rounders take years to develop and 70% of them never become anything to mention. Just so you know, of the 210 kids picked in 2014, only 37 of them currently have 100 or more points. Only 10 of them have more than 300 points. The odds of becoming a good NHL player are extremely remote.

There's kids from the 2018 NHL draft who are just now becoming NHL regulars.
- LeftCoaster

You mentioned Colton Tuebert and his 4 years of development and 24 career NHL games I think that’s what you define success as at the NHL level.

I’m pretty sure we could do that with 4th rd picks instead

You mentioned Colton Tuebert and his 4 years of development and 24 career NHL games I think that’s what you define success as at the NHL level.

I’m pretty sure we could do that with 4th rd picks instead
- I-own_da-Northwest

You're missing the point to try and be right. Whether kids make it or not isn't the point, it's that kids need more than one year of development time, which you falsely claimed.

As I said, Alex Tuch took three years to develop, he's now a great player. Two to three years is normal, not one, like you falsely claimed.

You're missing the point to try and be right. Whether kids make it or not isn't the point, it's that kids need more than one year of development time, which you falsely claimed.

As I said, Alex Tuch took three years to develop, he's now a great player. Two to three years is normal, not one, like you falsely claimed.
- LeftCoaster

Idiot.

Idiot.
- VanHockeyGuy

In this case, yes he is.

You're missing the point to try and be right. Whether kids make it or not isn't the point, it's that kids need more than one year of development time, which you falsely claimed.

As I said, Alex Tuch took three years to develop, he's now a great player. Two to three years is normal, not one, like you falsely claimed.
- LeftCoaster

I said first year draft picks should pretty much be nhl ready. Maybe a year of development. Sometimes 2.

The point I’m making is that if a first rounder takes more than 2 years to develop, they shouldn’t be a first round pick.

I think there’s probably 32 players every draft that will make the NHL within 3 years.

They should be at development camp next week. That's closer 😉

Probably the only two players that Van will have at WJC this year. Probably D-Petey as well.
- manvanfan

Honestly it probably costs close to the same for me to fly to Sweden

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