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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 29 @ 11:58 PM ET
Anyone hear/read anything (somewhat legit “insider” or media type guy)

1. ROR - cost
2. What Bertuzzi could be looking at?

Maybe that would influence what they do with Willy if the speculation of 9.5-10+ is accurate.

- Big23Questions


I have seen both projected at around $5.5m.

I think ROR should be cheaper than that, but I think Bertuzzi is probably in that range - maybe even $6.5m as a UFA in stupid season. Whatever Bertuzzi gets, Bunting should be right in that same ballpark for what it's worth.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:04 AM ET
Mike Augello: Leafs Surprise With First Rounder Cowan, Draft Update
- mikeinbuffalo

ooh😍

could you imagine a line of cowen/willi/mitchy?😍

the rest of the league wouldn’t know whether to poop or wind their wrist watch👊🏿

i can’t even imagine how many sick snipez, dirty danglez, n pointz this line could put up if we just wait and let them get some kemistry😍

this could translate to a 2nd or third round berth somewhere down the road if you’re patient👍🏿

what a (frank)ing joke🤦‍♂️

edit:nice alliteration👍🏿
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Jun 30 @ 12:06 AM ET
ooh😍

could you imagine a line of cowen/willi/mitchy?😍

the rest of the league wouldn’t know whether to poop or wind their wrist watch👊🏿

i can’t even imagine how many sick snipez, dirty danglez, n pointz this line could put up if we just wait and let them get some kemistry😍

this could translate to a 2nd or third round berth somewhere down the road if you’re patient👍🏿

what a (frank)ing joke🤦‍♂️

edit:nice alliteration👍🏿

- Skalapy

Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Jun 30 @ 12:14 AM ET
Anyone hear/read anything (somewhat legit “insider” or media type guy)

1. ROR - cost
2. What Bertuzzi could be looking at?

Maybe that would influence what they do with Willy if the speculation of 9.5-10+ is accurate.

- Big23Questions

(frank) greedy willi and pencil neck female dog and the horses they rode in on🤦‍♂️

our laffs have been missing a stable of legitimate defensemen for decades🤦🏿‍♂️

you can’t have a bunch of little bois ice dancing and trying cute passes n dirty danglez without some grown men who don’t care about pointz rather protecting the crease👊
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 12:15 AM ET
Yeah, I understood that - my comment was that while Chicago could or is willing to offer 4x as much, once July 1 hits and Perry starts fielding offers from cup contenders, maybe that $4m from Chicago isn't as appealing - or maybe he doesn't care about going to Chicago so his agent doesn't even bother talking to Davidson about a contract.

This way they get in front of all of it and offer him something that's hard to say no to right now. He could always have waited 3 more days and just seen what else there was, but right now he has visions of Lamborghini's sinking to the bottom of Lake Michigan dancing in his head.

- Monkeypunk


Gotcha.

But also, with the amount of contracts signed at 12 est on the nose on July 1, you'd have to think they have a way to get the bird in his ear.

You'd think pre July 1 or not, if he can be swayed by zeroes over the chance to win a cup, a couple days isn't going to change much.

Unless he resigns in Tampa before UFA opens. That's a legitimate fear if you're Chicago and wanting to throw a brinks truck at him.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:36 AM ET
Any chance we could get a few players that are actually capable of growing a playoff beard?

I mean instead of fanny packs and random chin hairs...like the wife gets...is there any way possible to get a couple of dudes that don't have pretty locks but have some high-level testosterone with male pattern balding and two testicles in their sack that can grow a big fluffy beard??? (see Bennett v Knies or PLD v Matthews)

Just one or maybe two on D and a few hairy wingers. I mean it's (frank)ing hockey for (frank) sakes.

Man, I miss Muzz's fuzz.
Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

Jun 30 @ 1:08 AM ET
Treliving isn't doing a great job as of yet. A slight overpay for Kampf, a player they could have traded down in the first round and nobody re-signed as UFA/RFA's so far. He needs to get out of the Honky Tonks and get to work. Not happy with their results so far. Looks like the same old, same old.
- PrinceLH


Kampf contract; too much and too long for what should be a league minimum role. If they end up not signing Acciari and he goes for close to this amount, it'll be a big fail. Acciari is better at this price than Kampf.

Holmberg contract; not bad, better price but not that great of a player either.

Keefe staying; terrible. He ran out of time long ago.

Still hasn't moved Murray or acquired a legit, proven top end goalie.

Still needs to find a way to dump Brodie before July 1st.

Looks like Nylander wants too much already so we'll see if he gets moved for a good package or not.

Didn't acquire Perry which was dumb. Hopefully he still becomes a UFA and they still got a chance to bring him in.

1st round pick was a stupid pick even though he's a good kid and a decent player, just not the right spot to pick him.

Treliving is just a puppet to Shanahan so it's ultimately the same poop in a different pile coming from Shanahan so far this off-season.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 30 @ 2:09 AM ET
Aggressively, EK says. Aggressively.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 7:13 AM ET
I've never been in a plane. Only left Ontario once, and that was to go on a train ride in Quebec when I visited Ottawa a decade ago.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Not the most comfortable guy flying, can't see enough of the road ahead.

Told the missus I'd be much happier in the captain seat with the controls in my hands.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 30 @ 7:42 AM ET
I feel like willie is going to be traded, hes gonna want 9.5 to 10m easily...and why not?
Dubas handed Matthews and marner huge contracts when they didnt deserve it. Marner should have gotten 8.5m per max and Matthews 9.5 max. Dubas foolishly handing them more than10m per has hindered the team since the contracts were signed. Hell, 4-5 years later tkafack had 100pts and still signed for less than what those two signed all those years ago.
Now willie is going to want to get paid soemthing comparable and why not?
As result, the leafs aren't going to be able to pay him so he'll probably get traded. Unless Am signs for only 11m per....which we know isnt happening.
But we'll see.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 8:01 AM ET
I would want elite player(s)

Pesce and Necas are very good though

- Santo_44


You want elite back for Willy … who is very good… I’m sure teams are dying to make that deal…

Willy is Jason Robertson lite - Robertson is elite … not Willy -

And there is no bigger fan off 88 than I -

It’s a nice starting, talking point for a trade… but it’s not realistic -

If you could get any 2 of Necas, Pesce and or Jarvis you take that all day…
But Carolina doesn’t roll like that.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:02 AM ET
Maple Leafs take 6-foot-2 LHD Noah Chadwick with the 185th pick. That's the first D-man Toronto has drafted since 2020. Ugh

Chadwick scored 20 points in 67 games. He was ranked No. 132 by Elite Prospects

Not bad
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:04 AM ET
I feel like willie is going to be traded, hes gonna want 9.5 to 10m easily...and why not?
Dubas handed Matthews and marner huge contracts when they didnt deserve it. Marner should have gotten 8.5m per max and Matthews 9.5 max. Dubas foolishly handing them over more than10m per has hindered the team since the contracts were signed. Hell, 4-5 years later tkafack had 100pts and still signed for less than what those two signed all those years ago.
Now willie is going to want to get paid soemthing comparable and why not?
As result, the leafs aren't going to be able to pay him so he'll probably get traded. Unless Am signs for only 11m per....which we know isnt happening.
But we'll see.

- Fakepartofme


Marner was willing to sit as well remember?

Players only care about their take home (want at least a minimum) and could care less about their cap hit. Do you care what you cost your employer or what you make? There’s a reason this is happening and it’s taxation. This hasn’t been known this since contract values were close enough. Canadian players signing for Canadian teams are expensive. Wait til McDavid signs his next deal, willing to bet it will $17 mill +
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 8:13 AM ET
Maple Leafs take 6-foot-2 LHD Noah Chadwick with the 185th pick. That's the first D-man Toronto has drafted since 2020. Ugh

Chadwick scored 20 points in 67 games. He was ranked No. 132 by Elite Prospects

Not bad

- Fakepartofme


Now that’s a good pick…

I can’t stand vertank … but I will say one thing - he has a plan to get bigger and everyone of our picks this is 6’ and bigger -
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 30 @ 8:15 AM ET
Marner was willing to sit as well remember?

Players only care about their take home (want at least a minimum) and could care less about their cap hit. Do you care what you cost your employer or what you make? There’s a reason this is happening and it’s taxation. This hasn’t been known this since contract values were close enough. Canadian players signing for Canadian teams are expensive. Wait til McDavid signs his next deal, willing to bet it will $17 mill +

- Dozzer



I think most have the issue with they didn’t earn that scratch up front - and some would say still haven’t -

McJesus is worth every cent - no questions asked -
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:26 AM ET
$4m per for perry.
Lol wtf Chicago!
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:26 AM ET
Kampf contract; too much and too long for what should be a league minimum role. If they end up not signing Acciari and he goes for close to this amount, it'll be a big fail. Acciari is better at this price than Kampf.

Holmberg contract; not bad, better price but not that great of a player either.

Keefe staying; terrible. He ran out of time long ago.

Still hasn't moved Murray or acquired a legit, proven top end goalie.

Still needs to find a way to dump Brodie before July 1st.

Looks like Nylander wants too much already so we'll see if he gets moved for a good package or not.

Didn't acquire Perry which was dumb. Hopefully he still becomes a UFA and they still got a chance to bring him in.

1st round pick was a stupid pick even though he's a good kid and a decent player, just not the right spot to pick him.

Treliving is just a puppet to Shanahan so it's ultimately the same poop in a different pile coming from Shanahan so far this off-season.

- Rare_Jewel


You do realize that Perry just got $4mm, right.

Good take on things, idiot.


The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 30 @ 8:31 AM ET
$4m per for perry.
Lol wtf Chicago!

- Fakepartofme


Hawks building an army around Bedard. Won't win much but nobody gets to push Bedard around.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:35 AM ET
Tree has some (frank)ing work to do.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:38 AM ET
I think most have the issue with they didn’t earn that scratch up front - and some would say still haven’t -

McJesus is worth every cent - no questions asked -

- dozerD10


It boils down to this. A player and his agent care about what the take home is under full taxation. Which is very justifiable. For Marner it means it’s only about $5 million. Of course he’ll bank it in ways to lower taxation and help save himself money but he’s not going to give the savings to the team. That would be like one of us willing to work for less because we intend to do something like that.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Jun 30 @ 8:40 AM ET
$4m per for perry.
Lol wtf Chicago!

- Fakepartofme


There’s still a cap minimum. My guess that other than a handful of players they’re going to be a young team.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 30 @ 8:42 AM ET
Maple Leafs take 6-foot-2 LHD Noah Chadwick with the 185th pick. That's the first D-man Toronto has drafted since 2020. Ugh

Chadwick scored 20 points in 67 games. He was ranked No. 132 by Elite Prospects

Not bad

- Fakepartofme


Just because we had a whole thing about it yesterday - Chadwick is 6'4 . Apparently EliteProspects updated their site just after he was picked!
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:47 AM ET
There’s still a cap minimum. My guess that other than a handful of players they’re going to be a young team.
- Dozzer

Hawks are only $3M from the floor with 6 players to sign. They don’t need Perry @ $4M for that.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 8:48 AM ET
I have testicles and on certain days Joel's allowed to lick them.
- Tee-Dot


Every day with this poop, unprompted. You're a (frank)ing loser dude.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 30 @ 8:50 AM ET
Hawks are only $3M from the floor with 6 players to sign. They don’t need Perry @ $4M for that.
- Canada Cup



BTW, CF hasn't even recognized Perry's contract yet; they're over the floor now.


But you're right. They overpaid Perry to get him to sign there.
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