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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 30 @ 12:48 PM ET
Ryan Johansen was had for free.

It would be the same type of trade.

I am just saying its highly doubtful any team gives him a penny over 4M.

- Santo_44

Perry got 4m, which is a huge overpayment.
So who knows.
We'll see.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 30 @ 12:49 PM ET
Perry got 4m, which is a huge overpayment.
So who knows.
We'll see.

- Fakepartofme


I won't compare Chicago contracts to what teams will actually offer in free agency.

I just think its common sense because literally any team could have had him 3x4M. Without giving up assets.

It is a terrible buyout anyways.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:51 PM ET
Then why didnt a team trade for him at 50% retained?

Go look at his buyout cap hit...its worse than the trade.

- Santo_44

Corey Perry and Foligno just got 4M for 1 season.

They probably didnt want to give up assets on top the salary. He may get 2 years 4.25M for example.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 30 @ 12:52 PM ET
Corey Perry and Foligno just got 4M for 1 season.

They probably didnt want to give up assets on top the salary. He may get 2 years 4M for example.

- Archaic


Alex Galchenyuks UFA rights were traded for Ryan Johansen

Teams did not have to give up assets

I don't give a flying (frank) what Chicago does.

Perry signed a much cheaper contract for TB. Chicago is overpaying talent so that play there, its irrelevant to me.

They are capped out now too.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 30 @ 12:56 PM ET
Corey Perry and Foligno just got 4M for 1 season.

They probably didnt want to give up assets on top the salary. He may get 2 years 4M for example.

- Archaic


No he's right.

If any team wanted him yesterday and was willing to pay him an AAV of $4M then they could have traded for him without giving up any assets.

Leafs for example could have traded the rights to Jordi Benn for Matt Duchesne with 50% retained. Pred's would have preferred that over the buyout and Leafs would have had him at $4M AAV for 3 years.

Didn't happen so you have to assume nobody values him at $4M for 3 years. Plus the buyout/unqualified market looks bigger than usual. Buyers market maybe.

RoR and Schenn should get their pens working.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 30 @ 12:59 PM ET
Alex Galchenyuks UFA rights were traded for Ryan Johansen

Teams did not have to give up assets

I don't give a flying (frank) what Chicago does.

Perry signed a much cheaper contract for TB. Chicago is overpaying talent so that play there, its irrelevant to me.

- Santo_44


Duchene is better then Johansen. There was also a 3rd year on the contract you would have to committ too. I guess well find out.
Leaffrog
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 06.30.2018

Jun 30 @ 12:59 PM ET
No he's right.

If any team wanted him yesterday and was willing to pay him an AAV of $4M then they could have traded for him without giving up any assets.

Leafs for example could have traded the rights to Jordi Benn for Matt Duchesne with 50% retained. Pred's would have preferred that over the buyout and Leafs would have had him at $4M AAV for 3 years.

Didn't happen so you have to assume nobody values him at $4M for 3 years. Plus the buyout/unqualified market looks bigger than usual. Buyers market maybe.

RoR and Schenn should get their pens working.

- The Law



I had the same thought. With these surprise buyouts, you'd have to think ROR and others' value may he dropping just a bit.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:00 PM ET
No he's right.

If any team wanted him yesterday and was willing to pay him an AAV of $4M then they could have traded for him without giving up any assets.

Leafs for example could have traded the rights to Jordi Benn for Matt Duchesne with 50% retained. Pred's would have preferred that over the buyout and Leafs would have had him at $4M AAV for 3 years.

Didn't happen so you have to assume nobody values him at $4M for 3 years. Plus the buyout/unqualified market looks bigger than usual. Buyers market maybe.

RoR and Schenn should get their pens working.

- The Law

We get that.
But maybe they value him at the amount for 1-2 years.
Again, i doubt he gets that amount....but stranger things have happened
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 30 @ 1:00 PM ET
I had the same thought. With these surprise buyouts, you'd have to think ROR and others' value may he dropping just a bit.
- Leaffrog


Yep

This year it is going to be if you want money you have to go to a bad team...and even then that money is being used up already
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 30 @ 1:02 PM ET
Only one on that list I want nothing to do with is Bailey. He's useless. So of course the Leafs will most likely sign the bum.
- GreatGigInTheSky

1m🤷

Tavares and him had good chemistry
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:02 PM ET
No he's right.

If any team wanted him yesterday and was willing to pay him an AAV of $4M then they could have traded for him without giving up any assets.

Leafs for example could have traded the rights to Jordi Benn for Matt Duchesne with 50% retained. Pred's would have preferred that over the buyout and Leafs would have had him at $4M AAV for 3 years.

Didn't happen so you have to assume nobody values him at $4M for 3 years. Plus the buyout/unqualified market looks bigger than usual. Buyers market maybe.

RoR and Schenn should get their pens working.

- The Law


People are forgetting that buyout saves them money. Well see what he gets. Im not saying I think he is worth 4M+ BTW, but some teams are dumb.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:03 PM ET
I had the same thought. With these surprise buyouts, you'd have to think ROR and others' value may he dropping just a bit.
- Leaffrog


We can hope, doubt it though
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:04 PM ET
Turned the tv on and Lost Girl is on.
Damn the females leads are incredible looking
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 30 @ 1:16 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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37s
Blake Wheeler’s agent — Matt Keator — indicates the winger prefers the Eastern conference: less travel and a new experience. We will see what evolves
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:19 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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37s
Blake Wheeler’s agent — Matt Keator — indicates the winger prefers the Eastern conference: less travel and a new experience. We will see what evolves

- GreatGigInTheSky

Brack to Broston!
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:19 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
·
37s
Blake Wheeler’s agent — Matt Keator — indicates the winger prefers the Eastern conference: less travel and a new experience. We will see what evolves

- GreatGigInTheSky


Back to Boston?

TB maybe?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:23 PM ET
Back to Boston?

TB maybe?

- Archaic

Ottawa
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
Brack to Broston!
- AdamFrench

They could sign him and still be younger next year than this
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:31 PM ET
They could sign him and still be younger next year than this
- Canada Cup

Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Jun 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
new blog everyone
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 30 @ 1:44 PM ET
1m🤷

Tavares and him had good chemistry

- mr.sir


If for some insane reason the Leafs actually sign him, Keefe should be fired immediately if he lines them up together.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:53 PM ET
We get that.
But maybe they value him at the amount for 1-2 years.
Again, i doubt he gets that amount....but stranger things have happened

- Fakepartofme


No that's a fair point. He's 32 or whatever so maybe that 3rd yr's too much.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 30 @ 1:55 PM ET
People are forgetting that buyout saves them money. Well see what he gets. Im not saying I think he is worth 4M+ BTW, but some teams are dumb.
- Archaic


Buyout saves them 11M in hard cash.

Trade with 50% retained saves them 10M in hard cash.

I hear you but that $1M probably wasn't the variable.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jun 30 @ 2:25 PM ET
Pot meet kettle.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Shut the (frank) up. Im not making random comments daily about you sucking my balls. It's not my problem that youre a goddam snowflake and I can't say anything to any of your posts without you throwing a fit about it.
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