Ya, could be interesting. Not sure how many teams can afford a 5+ million, 3rd line winger though. At least not without a nice sweetener/retention.
- Reubenkincade

Personally, I think you're going to see Garland and Myers gone at some point next season.

Personally, I think you're going to see Garland and Myers gone at some point next season.
- LeftCoaster

Rather have Garland over Boeser, but you are probably right, for once.

Personally, I think you're going to see Garland and Myers gone at some point next season.
- LeftCoaster

TDL makes sense. That Bruins fan wants sweeteners sent out but that’s not happening. There is no desperate cap situation.

Just doing some reading about Vilmer Alriksson, pretty interesting pick. Being compared, somewhat, to Elmer Soderblom, a 6th round pick by the Red Wings in 2019. Really like the pick!! Damion Gardner, a 4th round pick last year, also has some promise, although he's a long-game project. Attending NCAA Div I school this year, which should help his skating tremendously.

Successful franchises, like Detroit, and recently Tampa, seem to have a lot more success drafting in those middle rounds. The Canucks need to get to that level of competence. If you go back to the year 2000 and look at Detroit's drafting in the middle rounds, they got serviceable NHL'ers out of those rounds, players I'll list below as I sip my coffee here in middle America.

Out of these ten drafts, eleven years, the Red Wings mined 9439 NHL games out of the second round and beyond, there were more but I only took guys who played 200 or more NHL games, all the while winning two Stanley Cups and never missing the playoffs. Just for comparison, the Canucks found 3777 NHL games over that same timeframe, 2464 of those games were Edler, Bieksa and Hansen.

2000
Tomas Kopecky 578 NHL games, 2nd round pick.

2002
Tomas Fleischmann 657 NHL games, 2nd round pick.
Valtteri Filppula 1056 NHL games, 3rd round pick.
Jonathan Ericsson 680 NHL games, 9th round pick.

2003
Kyle Quincey 586 NHL games, 4th round pick.

2004
Johan Franzen 602 NHL games, 3rd round pick.

2005
Justin Abdelkader 739 NHL games, 2nd round pick.
Darren Helm 823 NHL games, 5th round pick.

2006
Shawn Matthias 551 NHL games, 2nd round pick.

2007
Joakim Andersson 205 NHL games, 3rd round pick.

2008
Gustav Nyquist 703 NHL games, 4th round pick.

2009
Tomas Tatar 783 NHL games, 2nd round pick.
Nick Jensen 484 NHL games, 5th round pick.

2010
Calle Jarnkrok 658 NHL games, 2nd round pick.
Petr Mrazek 334 NHL games, 5th round pick.

The Canucks still have a glut of wingers, somethings gotta give on that front eventually before training camp.

Boeser
Mikheyev
Garland
Pearson
Beauvillier
Joshua
Podkolzin
Hoglander
- LeftCoaster

Kuz Petey Mikheyev
Beauvillier JTM Boeser
Pods Bluegar Garland
Pearson/Hogs Aman Joshua

Not fixed lines just placing the wingers on the roster. Seems like one extra. What’s the issue?

It is going to cost a decent pick, to dump a winger.
- Reubenkincade

Waivers

Just doing some reading about Vilmer Alriksson, pretty interesting pick. Being compared, somewhat, to Elmer Soderblom, a 6th round pick by the Red Wings in 2019. Really like the pick!! Damion Gardner, a 4th round pick last year, also has some promise, although he's a long-game project. Attending NCAA Div I school this year, which should help his skating tremendously.

Successful franchises, like Detroit, and recently Tampa, seem to have a lot more success drafting in those middle rounds. The Canucks need to get to that level of competence. If you go back to the year 2000 and look at Detroit's drafting in the middle rounds, they got serviceable NHL'ers out of those rounds, players I'll list below as I sip my coffee here in middle America.

Out of these ten drafts, eleven years, the Red Wings mined 9439 NHL games out of the second round and beyond, there were more but I only took guys who played 200 or more NHL games, all the while winning two Stanley Cups and never missing the playoffs. Just for comparison, the Canucks found 3777 NHL games over that same timeframe, 2464 of those games were Edler, Bieksa and Hansen.

2000
Tomas Kopecky 578 NHL games, 2nd round pick.

2002
Tomas Fleischmann 657 NHL games, 2nd round pick.
Valtteri Filppula 1056 NHL games, 3rd round pick.
Jonathan Ericsson 680 NHL games, 9th round pick.

2003
Kyle Quincey 586 NHL games, 4th round pick.

2004
Johan Franzen 602 NHL games, 3rd round pick.

2005
Justin Abdelkader 739 NHL games, 2nd round pick.
Darren Helm 823 NHL games, 5th round pick.

2006
Shawn Matthias 551 NHL games, 2nd round pick.

2007
Joakim Andersson 205 NHL games, 3rd round pick.

2008
Gustav Nyquist 703 NHL games, 4th round pick.

2009
Tomas Tatar 783 NHL games, 2nd round pick.
Nick Jensen 484 NHL games, 5th round pick.

2010
Calle Jarnkrok 658 NHL games, 2nd round pick.
Petr Mrazek 334 NHL games, 5th round pick.
- LeftCoaster

Hopefully the kid works out, although Hoyt Stanley, a defenseman that Minivan brought up and Jaden Lipinski, a centre, went shortly after that pick.

Lipinski Isa good Arizona boy, so I thought you would be upset about them not taking him.

quote from Florida GM Bill Zito yesterday on OEL

Allvin on Tyler Myers trade rumors: if there was a deal out there on the table.., why wouldn’t the deal have been done if that was the case? He goes on to say Tyler’s a part of the team.

Hopefully the kid works out, although Hoyt Stanley, a defenseman that Minivan brought up and Jaden Lipinski, a centre, went shortly after that pick.

Lipinski Isa good Arizona boy, so I thought you would be upset about them not taking him.
- Reubenkincade

I was high on Stanley being a local kid and RSD. No one had a report on him playing in BCHL out of Victoria. Liked his growth spurt 5.7 to 6.3 as he’s just adjusting to new body. That plus where he played maybe made him a sleeper. Canucks had two stabs at him in 4th and passed.

Since, and including, the year 2000 NHL draft, the Canucks have drafted players who've played a total of 975 NHL games from ONLY the second round. And not all of them for the Canucks, my God, that's just pathetic!!!

Just looked at some random teams who've won over the past couple decades...

St. Louis - 5432 NHL games
Pittsburgh - 2359 NHL games
Chicago - 4993 NHL games
Tampa - 2219 NHL games
Colorado - 4197 NHL games
Detroit - 6291 NHL games

Hopefully the kid works out, although Hoyt Stanley, a defenseman that Minivan brought up and Jaden Lipinski, a centre, went shortly after that pick.

Lipinski Isa good Arizona boy, so I thought you would be upset about them not taking him.
- Reubenkincade

Hoyt is actually going to the same NCAA Div I school this fall that Daimon Gardner is going to, Clarkson.

Lipinski, yes, good size and worth a look in the 4th round, but they went another direction to appease their scouts...disappointing.

Allvin on Tyler Myers trade rumors: if there was a deal out there on the table.., why wouldn’t the deal have been done if that was the case? He goes on to say Tyler’s a part of the team.
- VanHockeyGuy

Probably until TDL. Maybe then replaced by Bear or another acquisition.

D probably starts like this:

QH Cole
Soucy Hronek
Wolanin Myers

PK 1 Soucy Hronek
PK 2 Cole Myers

How does that look compared to last season?

I was high on Stanley being a local kid and RSD. No one had a report on him playing in BCHL out of Victoria. Liked his growth spurt 5.7 to 6.3 as he’s just adjusting to new body. That plus where he played maybe made him a sleeper. Canucks had two stabs at him in 4th and passed.
- Quinn's Quest

He went around the area that Mini had said he would go. Also, he went right after the Canucks took the big Swede and before the 2nd 4th

Hoyt is actually going to the same NCAA Div I school this fall that Daimon Gardner is going to, Clarkson.

Lipinski, yes, good size and worth a look in the 4th round, but they went another direction to appease their scouts...disappointing.
- LeftCoaster

Yup

Kuz Petey Mikheyev
Beauvillier JTM Boeser
Pods Bluegar Garland
Pearson/Hogs Aman Joshua

Not fixed lines just placing the wingers on the roster. Seems like one extra. What’s the issue?
- Quinn's Quest

4th line or bust.
Bubble team at best.

He went around the area that Mini had said he would go. Also, he went right after the Canucks took the big Swede and before the 2nd 4th
- Reubenkincade

It was after 2nd 4th rounder. See below list. Why it’s more bewildering. Don’t you think Ty and Vilmer would have been there at 119? You know where Canucks picked a complete no name player. Anyway, Sens have a lot of prospects. So they may be open to a trade at some point for a more developed player. I don’t think it will happen cause teams tend to let drafted player develop. Except for Canucks lol.

105 Ty Mueller (C)
Sherwood Park (AJHL)
4 106 Jakub Stancl (C)
Vaxjo Jr. (SWEDEN-JR.)
4 107 Vilmer Alriksson (LW)
Djurgarden Jr. (SWEDEN-JR.)
4 108 Hoyt Stanley (D)
Victoria (BCHL)
4 109 Ethan Miedema (LW)
Kingston (OHL)
4 110 Bogdan Konyushkov (D)
Nizhny Novgorod (RUSSIA)
4 111 Joey Willis (C)
Saginaw (OHL)
4 112 Jaden Lipinski (C)
Vancouver (WHL)
4 113 Jesse Nurmi (LW)
Kookoo Jr. (FINLAND-JR.)
4 114 Luca Pinelli (C)
Ottawa (OHL)
4 115 Jayson Shaugabay (RW)
Warroad (HIGH-MN)
4 116 Andrei Loshko (C)
Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
4 117 Larry Keenan (D)
Culver Academy (HIGH-IN)
4 118 Hampton Slukynsky (G)
Warroad (HIGH-MN)
4 119 No Info Canucks
4 120 Alex Ciernik (LW)
Sodertalje (SWEDEN-2)

4th line or bust.
Bubble team at best.
- Marwood

So it’s not a glut of wingers then, right? Which was the posted premise by someone far better than me in hockey assessments lol.

Bluegar has history with management. He will PK and we’ll see if he or Aman can be 3C. Maybe it’s just two 4th lines. Unless there is a trade or waiver wire casualty.

Bubble team would be a step in right direction as they develop players.

Yup
- Reubenkincade

The Calgary Flames are one of the worst drafting teams in the National Hockey League, so there is that...at least.

It was after 2nd 4th rounder. See below list. Why it’s more bewildering. Don’t you think Ty and Vilmer would have been there at 119? You know ehere Canucks picked a complete no name player. Anyway, Sens have a lot of prospects. So they may be open to a trade at some point for a more developed player. I don’t think it will happen cause teams tend to let drafted player develop. Except for Canucks lol.

105 Ty Mueller (C)
Sherwood Park (AJHL)
4 106 Jakub Stancl (C)
Vaxjo Jr. (SWEDEN-JR.)
4 107 Vilmer Alriksson (LW)
Djurgarden Jr. (SWEDEN-JR.)
4 108 Hoyt Stanley (D)
Victoria (BCHL)
4 109 Ethan Miedema (LW)
Kingston (OHL)
4 110 Bogdan Konyushkov (D)
Nizhny Novgorod (RUSSIA)
4 111 Joey Willis (C)
Saginaw (OHL)
4 112 Jaden Lipinski (C)
Vancouver (WHL)
4 113 Jesse Nurmi (LW)
Kookoo Jr. (FINLAND-JR.)
4 114 Luca Pinelli (C)
Ottawa (OHL)
4 115 Jayson Shaugabay (RW)
Warroad (HIGH-MN)
4 116 Andrei Loshko (C)
Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
4 117 Larry Keenan (D)
Culver Academy (HIGH-IN)
4 118 Hampton Slukynsky (G)
Warroad (HIGH-MN)
4 119 No Info Canucks
4 120 Alex Ciernik (LW)
Sodertalje (SWEDEN-2)
- Quinn's Quest

Are you practicing to become a blogger in here?

So it’s not a glut of wingers then, right? Which was the posted premise by someone far better than me in hockey assessments lol.

Bluegar has history with management. He will PK and we’ll see if he or Aman can be 3C. Maybe it’s just two 4th lines. Unless there is a trade or waiver wire casualty.

Bubble team would be a step in right direction as they develop players.
- Quinn's Quest

I don't care. My point being that Blueger is not capable of 3rd line centre. I didn't read the rest of your nonsense.

TDL makes sense. That Bruins fan wants sweeteners sent out but that’s not happening. There is no desperate cap situation.
- Quinn's Quest

There will be no need for sweetners to be added, hyperbole at it's finest.

There will be no need for sweetners to be added, hyperbole at it's finest.
- Makita

Since, and including, the year 2000 NHL draft, the Canucks have drafted players who've played a total of 975 NHL games from ONLY the second round. And not all of them for the Canucks, my God, that's just pathetic!!!

Just looked at some random teams who've won over the past couple decades...

St. Louis - 5432 NHL games
Pittsburgh - 2359 NHL games
Chicago - 4993 NHL games
Tampa - 2219 NHL games
Colorado - 4197 NHL games
Detroit - 6291 NHL games
- LeftCoaster

We traded all of our second rounders since 2000 didn’t we?

So it’s not a glut of wingers then, right? Which was the posted premise by someone far better than me in hockey assessments lol.

Bluegar has history with management. He will PK and we’ll see if he or Aman can be 3C. Maybe it’s just two 4th lines. Unless there is a trade or waiver wire casualty.

Bubble team would be a step in right direction as they develop players.
- Quinn's Quest

he was hired to be 3c, it’s just tough if you are thinking through a haze