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Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 4 @ 3:29 PM ET
Do a cap friendly where Tarasenko fits and I'll make whatever avatar you want.
- JRR1285

I did one.

Goodrow traded
Miller 3.75 (could be a bit low)
Laf 2.5
Tarasenko 4.3

aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 4 @ 4:27 PM ET
Do a cap friendly where Tarasenko fits and I'll make whatever avatar you want.
- JRR1285


You never specified whether or not its realistic.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 4 @ 4:45 PM ET
I did one.

Goodrow traded
Miller 3.75 (could be a bit low)
Laf 2.5
Tarasenko 4.3

- Slimtj100

Traded to whom and for what?
Byram got 3.850 AAV for two year. Can't see Miller getting less than that.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 4 @ 5:19 PM ET
Traded to whom and for what?
Byram got 3.850 AAV for two year. Can't see Miller getting less than that.

- airjan23


And vlad is not getting less than $5m
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 4 @ 5:25 PM ET
And vlad is not getting less than $5m
- picklerick

Why haven’t the numbers come out yet on the contract? Insiders don’t work on the 4th of July?
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 4 @ 5:43 PM ET
Traded to whom and for what?
Byram got 3.850 AAV for two year. Can't see Miller getting less than that.

- airjan23

I think the easiest way to trade Goodrow is with Jones attached to the trade. The return is irrelevant, just get Goodrow off the books. Jones is good sweetener imo. I know there are hurdles but it can be done.

This is the thing about this roster, with Goodrow and Vesey one of them is 3rd line…and that isn’t optimum in my opinion. It isn’t good enough to win it all. We need one more winger. They should have close to 4 million bucks to sign a player. Maybe Tarasenko takes a bit of a discount. These one year contracts are very popular because players realize more money will be there next year and are very willing to take one yr deals because they don’t want to commit leaving money on the table. They added a lot of depth and that’s great but one piece away still I think. Once they get Miller and Laf done, it’ll be a little clearer how much money they have for one more guy.

In essence I don’t think Drury is done, nothing earth shaking, but I think he makes a trade. Some things have my senses up, like Gustafson, when we have Harpur and Jones, and Bonino. Bonino is basically Goodrow, but for 800k.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 4 @ 5:50 PM ET
I think the easiest way to trade Goodrow is with Jones attached to the trade. The return is irrelevant, just get Goodrow off the books. Jones is good sweetener imo. I know there are hurdles but it can be done.

This is the thing about this roster, with Goodrow and Vesey one of them is 3rd line…and that isn’t optimum in my opinion. It isn’t good enough to win it all. We need one more winger. They should have close to 4 million bucks to sign a player. Maybe Tarasenko takes a bit of a discount. These one year contracts are very popular because players realize more money will be there next year and are very willing to take one yr deals because they don’t want to commit leaving money on the table. They added a lot of depth and that’s great but one piece away still I think. Once they get Miller and Laf done, it’ll be a little clearer how much money they have for one more guy.

In essence I don’t think Drury is done, nothing earth shaking, but I think he makes a trade. Some things have my senses up, like Gustafson, when we have Harpur and Jones, and Bonino. Bonino is basically Goodrow, but for 800k.

- Slimtj100

Lets you get Tarasenko, are you putting Kakko on the second or third line? If third, then you are in essence leaving the Kid Line interact, which begs the question of how are they improving and getting more ice time if in same situation as prior?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 4 @ 5:56 PM ET
I think the easiest way to trade Goodrow is with Jones attached to the trade. The return is irrelevant, just get Goodrow off the books. Jones is good sweetener imo. I know there are hurdles but it can be done.

This is the thing about this roster, with Goodrow and Vesey one of them is 3rd line…and that isn’t optimum in my opinion. It isn’t good enough to win it all. We need one more winger. They should have close to 4 million bucks to sign a player. Maybe Tarasenko takes a bit of a discount. These one year contracts are very popular because players realize more money will be there next year and are very willing to take one yr deals because they don’t want to commit leaving money on the table. They added a lot of depth and that’s great but one piece away still I think. Once they get Miller and Laf done, it’ll be a little clearer how much money they have for one more guy.

In essence I don’t think Drury is done, nothing earth shaking, but I think he makes a trade. Some things have my senses up, like Gustafson, when we have Harpur and Jones, and Bonino. Bonino is basically Goodrow, but for 800k.

- Slimtj100


Goodrow on Tampas 3rd line on back to back Stanley Cup teams, best 3rd line in hockey.

Goodrow on NYR 3rd line, not good enough.

The thought process is amazing and the fascination that Goodrow is what’s holding this team back is a joke at this point.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 4 @ 5:58 PM ET
Lets you get Tarasenko, are you putting Kakko on the second or third line? If third, then you are in essence leaving the Kid Line interact, which begs the question of how are they improving and getting more ice time if in same situation as prior?
- airjan23

I want Laf and Kakko with Zib. I think the kid line lost a tremendous amount of its luster vs NJ. To me, that was the worst part of the season for me. Their collective performances in that series. I’d separate them and if Lavy does a blender period try it then.

I’d do

Laf Zib Kakko
Panarin Chytil Wheeler, or Tarasenko
Kreider Trocheck xxxxx, or Wheeler
Vesey Bonino Pitlick
Nash

Eventually I think Cuylle could steal Pitlicks spot and have a Cuylle Bonino Vesey line
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 4 @ 5:59 PM ET
Goodrow on Tampas 3rd line on back to back Stanley Cup teams, best 3rd line in hockey.

Goodrow on NYR 3rd line, not good enough.

The thought process is amazing and the fascination that Goodrow is what’s holding this team back is a joke at this point.

- nyrangers9479

He’s also 3 years older. I like goodrow but he ain’t a 3rd liner anymore. It think he’d be on the fourth line anyway, with Vesey up in the lineup. Goodrows value to the Rangers is his versatility, but we can’t afford to pay that much for versatility this year especially. With his money the team better served to finding another scorer, or fast winger. I’d love Crouse in the top 9 but that would probably cost too much. But someone like him

I just didn’t see the point of signing all these guys for peanuts if something like that isn’t in the works. It can’t camp battles as the thought process.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 4 @ 6:58 PM ET
He’s also 3 years older. I like goodrow but he ain’t a 3rd liner anymore. It think he’d be on the fourth line anyway, with Vesey up in the lineup. Goodrows value to the Rangers is his versatility, but we can’t afford to pay that much for versatility this year especially. With his money the team better served to finding another scorer, or fast winger. I’d love Crouse in the top 9 but that would probably cost too much. But someone like him

I just didn’t see the point of signing all these guys for peanuts if something like that isn’t in the works. It can’t camp battles as the thought process.

- Slimtj100

Goodrow career before the Rangers: 32 goals

Goodrow career with NYR: 24 goals

He hasn’t regressed.

Kreider Trocheck Goodrow could be the best 3rd line we’ve had in decades
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:08 PM ET
Traded to whom and for what?
Byram got 3.850 AAV for two year. Can't see Miller getting less than that.

- airjan23


I mentioned when word broke on July 1st's F.A. opening of a new deal for Miller being affected then by Ryan Graves signing that day with the Penguins for 6 years at a $4.5M AAV.

But also affecting Miller's desires of key is that Lindgren's $3M deal expires next Summer when he will be RFA eligible. Even should he not test the market then, and be willing to sign a "team friendly" new deal, Lindgren would likely earn at minimum $3.75M to $4M annually per year.
(Schneider's $925K salary will also expire then, as will Robertson's $797.5K, with both likewise becoming RFA eligible.)

The holdup with Miller must be due to him seeking closer to $5M annually with some extended term. That makes it difficult for Drury to also fit in Lafreniere on a bridge deal, which is likely in turn delaying Laf's signing. Miller is currently worth about equal to 5% higher for another comparison, to Sabres d'man Mattias Samuelsson's annual approximate $4.3M. (Samuelsson, however, is signed to that salary for another 7 years.) If signing for that 5% higher, Miller would earn a tad more than Graves' annual $4.5M.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:26 PM ET
Goodrow career before the Rangers: 32 goals

Goodrow career with NYR: 24 goals

He hasn’t regressed.

Kreider Trocheck Goodrow could be the best 3rd line we’ve had in decades

- nyrangers9479

We weren’t good enough with him on the 4th line, how will we be good enough with him on the 3rd line? Not being a dyck, I just think you’re off base on this. Goodrow would be great for like 2 million bucks

What about Arvidsson? I think LA needs LHD prospects. Jones could fit there. I was thinking maybe Garand too, if they needed a goalie prospect. Arvidsson may be too valuable to them tho. But his salary we could probably fit in, he’s 4.2
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 4 @ 7:33 PM ET
Zadina passed through waivers so I guess no one really wants to pay him that much. But I did hear someone say he may be easier to trade now because he could be assigned to the new teams AHL affiliate. This is the kind of guy Drury should go after. Maybe you stroke gold
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jul 4 @ 8:27 PM ET
Zadina passed through waivers so I guess no one really wants to pay him that much. But I did hear someone say he may be easier to trade now because he could be assigned to the new teams AHL affiliate. This is the kind of guy Drury should go after. Maybe you stroke gold
- Slimtj100


Or you have a stroke.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 4 @ 8:28 PM ET
Or you have a stroke.
- aecliptic

Damn iPhones
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 4 @ 8:30 PM ET
Damn iPhones
- Slimtj100

Oh sure, blame the phone
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 4 @ 8:31 PM ET
figuring out my next steps. But will hopefully get a crowd source blog asking for off-season questions to be covered, as I have done in the past
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 4 @ 8:45 PM ET
We weren’t good enough with him on the 4th line, how will we be good enough with him on the 3rd line? Not being a dyck, I just think you’re off base on this. Goodrow would be great for like 2 million bucks

What about Arvidsson? I think LA needs LHD prospects. Jones could fit there. I was thinking maybe Garand too, if they needed a goalie prospect. Arvidsson may be too valuable to them tho. But his salary we could probably fit in, he’s 4.2

- Slimtj100

We weren’t good enough Bc our 11+ million dollar player, our 1st OA pick, our #1 #2 AND #3 centers and our 9+ million dollar defenseman COMBINED for 3 goals. Us not being “good enough” has nothing to do with 4th (or 3rd) line Barclay Goodrow.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 4 @ 8:47 PM ET
We weren’t good enough Bc our 11+ million dollar player, our 1st OA pick, our #1 #2 AND #3 centers and our 9+ million dollar defenseman COMBINED for 3 goals. Us not being “good enough” has nothing to do with 4th (or 3rd) line Barclay Goodrow.
- nyrangers9479

That's all?
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 4 @ 8:50 PM ET
Zadina passed through waivers so I guess no one really wants to pay him that much. But I did hear someone say he may be easier to trade now because he could be assigned to the new teams AHL affiliate. This is the kind of guy Drury should go after. Maybe you stroke gold
- Slimtj100

I think Zadina is a good addition. If DET would take Jones for him I’d do that, put him with Panarin and see what happens. Jones is expendable to me
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 4 @ 8:52 PM ET
That's all?
- airjan23

I’m sure I missed one or 2, but blaming everything wrong with the team right now on Goodrow is ridiculous.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jul 4 @ 9:04 PM ET
I’m sure I missed one or 2, but blaming everything wrong with the team right now on Goodrow is ridiculous.
- nyrangers9479


I think the team is better off using the $3.6m on other assets over goodrow. I also do not think he is bad. Multiple things can be true. He’s just paid too much
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 4 @ 9:23 PM ET
I’m sure I missed one or 2, but blaming everything wrong with the team right now on Goodrow is ridiculous.
- nyrangers9479

I’m not solely blaming him lol. I’m not blaming him really at all. I’ve been a goodrow guy all along, but I see these other teams and we ain’t good enough to beat them. It’s as simple as that. We need one more dynamic winger to be good enough, and to get that the only way is to use goodrows money. This isn’t about goodrow the player, it’s about his salary

I blame the kids more than anyone, I’ve said that since the series ended. I also think collectively they thought the series was over after game 2.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 4 @ 9:23 PM ET
I think the team is better off using the $3.6m on other assets over goodrow. I also do not think he is bad. Multiple things can be true. He’s just paid too much
- picklerick

Exactly.

It does seem like Goodrow will be here and they could take a wait n see approach with guys like Cuylle, or even Othmann, and if they can graduate to the NHL. That would help obviously. But as of right now I’m not sure we can beat the devils yet, and I’m less confident we can beat the canes. I guess they could wait til the TDL like they’ve been doing too, I’m just impatient like the rest of us
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