I would have taken by he flyer on Duchene.

Only reason Domi is still in the league is because of his last name
- Swedish_Jesus

Sure it is, has nothing to do that he's been a pretty consistent 45-50pt guy throughout his career.

Domi and duchene magically turned into elite players over the last hour or so.

Didn’t you know?
- Sabretooth9

Yeah above average = elite that’s exactly what I said you got me

Sure it is, has nothing to do that he's been a pretty consistent 45-50pt guy throughout his career.
- Buff36

While being pretty inconsistent

Sure it is, has nothing to do that he's been a pretty consistent 45-50pt guy throughout his career.
- Buff36

Olofsson averages 52 points per year if averaged over an 82 game season.

Your point exactly ?

Olofsson averages 52 points per year if averaged over an 82 game season.

Your point exactly ?
- Swedish_Jesus

If if if, he has never touched that total.

Right, it's why I said most. Most teams can sustain when their best two players are gone.

How good would Edmonton be without McDavid and Draistil. Kind of a silly argument.
- Mentalorgasm5

I was mainly kidding, they can only do it because of blatant cap circumvention. And, honestly, good for them. They have owners who actually want to win. Must be nice.

If if if, he has never touched that total.
- Buff36

I still don't understand how one can score 28 goals yet get only 12 assists, 5 of which were on the PP and were probably tip-ins.

If if if, he has never touched that total.
- Buff36

If his name was Stan Smith and not Max Domi nobody would care.

The Leafs got worse this season, are in cap trouble, and have relationship issues with Nylander,

Matthews still hasn’t signed yet either.

The Sabres absolutely need to make the playoffs this year, I don’t disagree.

They also have the best, if not second best behind New Jersey, crop of U23 talent in the league.

Better days are ahead.

Erik Johnson shouldn’t be relied on to do it. He’s not very good.

He’s a bust of a number 1 overall pick.

I never once heard anyone on this board say, Erik Johnson is a guy they should go sign. not one person.

I’m Not sure how much of an upgrade he is.
- ImThatGuy

You be wrong
Said at trade deadline
Perfect 3rd pairing guy

Sabres don’t need a scoring defensemen ….. we needed a defensemen to play with power and upgrade the 3rd d pairing

Which hey …… Adams fixed.

Which gerbe implied another d is coming
- Sabretooth9

It's far from a certainty that Adams quote unquote fixed the issue with Power having a quality partner.

Going to be a big step up for Clifton, especially in terms of time on ice.

It's far from a certainty that Adams quote unquote fixed the issue with Power having a quality partner.

Going to be a big step up for Clifton, especially in terms of time on ice.
- kingcong39

I like the value though.

In comparison to 6 years of Graves or 3 years for a 34 year old Gudas.

Clifton and Johnson signings raise the floor of the Sabres defence corps and enable Adams and company to make a smart move to upgrade further and not a desperate one.

Term is the enemy, and although we aren’t where we want to be as an organization yet, I also don’t see anything prohibiting us from getting there.

Even the Skinner deal isn’t killing us anymore (at least currently)

Erik Johnson shouldn’t be relied on to do it. He’s not very good.

He’s a bust of a number 1 overall pick.

I never once heard anyone on this board say, Erik Johnson is a guy they should go sign. not one person.

I’m Not sure how much of an upgrade he is.
- ImThatGuy

He’s a big upgrade to the scrubs we sent out as 5/6 d. If we limit his minutes to 14 or so he’ll be good for us. And to say any one who’s entering his 17th nhl is a bust, doesn’t seem correct. Maybe didn’t produce offensively as hope but a bust. No way

Too early to rename Kyle as “Tony”? Now there’s a guy who could clear the front of the net with pure obnoxiousness.

he lost quinn

did nothing to upgrade the top 9 and over paid the 4th line

offense was a problem in 25 or so games for this team

ghost is way better than some of the crap we had on the ice last year and you know some scrubs will hit the ice this year

who is our second scoring d man if power or dahlin miss time?



but continue
- homiedclown

If any team loses one of their top 2 teams aren’t they fxcked? And once again, the off-season is 3 days in and still has 100 days to go. There’s plenty of time for more moves. But keep on overreacting.

Why the hate for KA and your love for JP or TM? Did one of the disastrous duo gm’s float inside info to your reporter uncle while KA runs a tight ship? Thus no insider info to you thus the hatred for a gm who’s made the Sabres relevant again.

I wish Gibson didn't have 4 more years, and I wish Helley had 2 years left instead of just 1.

The real question is after taking into account what it would cost to acquire, the length they are under contract for and what a new contract for Helley would cost would be, which would you prefer?

At this point neither team is going to get their ideal return for either goalie.

Helley has one year left at $6.1 Gibson 4 left at $6.4

If you go after Gibson and Levi is ready and takes over full time in 2 seasons he is then due for a new contract so you're paying your goalies $10-$14 million total.

Still not awful but that is a lot of money tied up on your goaltenders.

But Helley could walk in a year and that might not be enough time to gauge Levi.

Gibson is my target...even though I think Helley is better.

Gibson plays 50 games Levi plays 32 in year one.
- Stripes77

This is the problem though - you wait for the perfect scenario and you end up with no one.

I like the value though.

In comparison to 6 years of Graves or 3 years for a 34 year old Gudas.

Clifton and Johnson signings raise the floor of the Sabres defence corps and enable Adams and company to make a smart move to upgrade further and not a desperate one.

Term is the enemy, and although we aren’t where we want to be as an organization yet, I also don’t see anything prohibiting us from getting there.

Even the Skinner deal isn’t killing us anymore (at least currently)
- Swedish_Jesus

This mentality eventually has to not be the only thing that matters.

We’re not trying to eventually win the Value Cap Savings Championship.

I want the best player possible as his partner. Not the best value

This mentality eventually has to not be the only thing that matters.

We’re not trying to eventually win the Value Cap Savings Championship.

I want the best player possible as his partner. Not the best value
- sbroads24

Both go hand and hand.

Having good players on value contracts enable you to take swings.

Clifton and Johnson make the Sabres a better team.

Neither of them prohibit the Sabres from adding a Pesce or a Tanev either.

The Sabres have 95% their core locked up long term (Tage, Cozens, Dahlin, Skinner, Tuch, Samuelsson)

Between Kulich, Rosen, Benson, Savoie the Sabres realistically have 3 if not 4 players ready to make the jump for the 2024/2025 season.

Jost, Olofsson, Girgensons, Okposo, Johnson Lybushkin will be UFA’s

Krebs, Mittelstadt, Joker (if he isn’t traded) and Power will be RFA’s.

Greenway can slide down the lineup and Rousek is your 13th forward.

Clifton could fit on the second pair, if not you know he’s more than capable 3rd pair.

That kind of flexibility is severely underrated.

The Sabres have 95% their core locked up long term (Tage, Cozens, Dahlin, Skinner, Tuch, Samuelsson)

Between Kulich, Rosen, Benson, Savoie the Sabres realistically have 3 if not 4 players ready to make the jump for the 2024/2025 season.

Jost, Olofsson, Girgensons, Okposo, Johnson? Lybushkin will be UFA’s

Krebs, Mittelstadt, Joker (if he isn’t traded) and Power will be RFA’s.

Greenway can slide down the lineup and Rousek is your 13th forward.

Clifton could fit on the second pair, if not you know he’s more than callable 3rd pair.

That kind of flexibility is severely underrated.
- Swedish_Jesus

Yup, Adams has done a nice job.

Yup, Adams has done a nice job.
- Sabretooth9

Only works if you draft well, which is so far so good.

Ryan Johnson should also be ready for the big time if he isn’t already.

Comrie you can place on waivers tomorrow he’s no longer a worry, if not he’s a UFA end of year regardless.

The Sabres can add this year by moving out cap the other way (2 of Olofsson, Bryson, Joker, Lybushkin).

They have talent out the wazoo and flexibility for days.

I smell something big coming.

Only works if you draft well, which is so far so good.

Ryan Johnson should also be ready for the big time if he isn’t already.

Comrie you can place on waivers tomorrow he’s no longer a worry, if not he’s a UFA end of year regardless.

The Sabres can add this year by moving out cap the other way (2 of Olofsson, Bryson, Joker, Lybushkin).

They have talent out the wazoo and flexibility for days.

I smell something big coming.
- Swedish_Jesus

Gerbe mentioned another defensemen and more.

So highly possible.

And I agree with your “cap dumps” so to speak.

This mentality eventually has to not be the only thing that matters.

We’re not trying to eventually win the Value Cap Savings Championship.

I want the best player possible as his partner. Not the best value
- sbroads24

You always assume that the only way to get to the next level is by making trades.

You always assume that the only way to get to the next level is by making trades.
- Slump Buster

Scott Cullen was on WGR last week or a few days ago.

Anyways he basically said that this years free agency class overall is weak.

He said the better value is making a trade vs overpaying for a Matt dumba in free agency. (Paraphrasing his words not mine)

You always assume that the only way to get to the next level is by making trades.
- Slump Buster

No, you're right, the Knights, Avs, and Lightning are famous for building from within and never made big trades.

Sabres resigned Clauge ….. so another defensemen in the system.


Ummmm ……
- Sabretooth9

Defenseman… or good defenseman?