If any team loses one of their top 2 teams aren’t they fxcked? And once again, the off-season is 3 days in and still has 100 days to go. There’s plenty of time for more moves. But keep on overreacting.

Why the hate for KA and your love for JP or TM? Did one of the disastrous duo gm’s float inside info to your reporter uncle while KA runs a tight ship? Thus no insider info to you thus the hatred for a gm who’s made the Sabres relevant again.
- turbo044

Well I wouldn't say there's plenty of time for moves, I mean we have already seen how different this offseason has been. A lot of teams having Cap problems and trades are more difficult because of that.

When is the 2nd window for buy outs, Servelli says the Leafs are waiting for that. Has something to do with Samsanov.

Sabres don’t need a scoring defensemen ….. we needed a defensemen to play with power and upgrade the 3rd d pairing

Which hey …… Adams fixed.


Which gerbe implied another d is coming
- Sabretooth9

Well as long as Johnson stays healthy, missed a lot of games over the years.

https://puckprose.com/202...tions-gibson-trade-ducks/

Well as long as Johnson stays healthy, missed a lot of games over the years.
- Buff36

Johnson is a one year stop gap until RJ is ready to take over. Not a bad thing having RJ play a bulk of the season in Rochester. The 1 year term is perfect,especially if EJ has a voice inside the D room.

There has to be another move coming

Johnson is a one year stop gap until RJ is ready to take over. Not a bad thing having RJ play a bulk of the season in Rochester. The 1 year term is perfect,especially if EJ has a voice inside the D room.

There has to be another move coming
- IonSabres

I agree have No problem with the signing and he will help, but he has a injury history. I like both D signings and hope Clifton can step up but there both not considered Top 4 D at this point and hopefully that changes with Clifton. But asking a player to add 3 or 4min a night to there style is alot especially when you haven't really done it. Still think we are going after Pesce, Hanifin or Tanev, just hard to do right know with the landscape in the NHL.

Johnson is a one year stop gap until RJ is ready to take over. Not a bad thing having RJ play a bulk of the season in Rochester. The 1 year term is perfect,especially if EJ has a voice inside the D room.

There has to be another move coming
- IonSabres

Adams has overpaid:

Okposo
Girgs
Johnson
Jost

I'll leave Clifton off the list as he his potential could meet the price tag.

There is $5mm combined in this group of wasted money, that should've been used to properly support the core and fill voids in the roster. The partial good qualities each individual brings from that group has been tried and tested resulting in failure.

The excuse that all of these are 1 year contracts so its no big deal works if the upcoming season is only looked upon as a development year. This group of players is solely looked upon to bring veteran presence, their individual stats of strong defense provided insufficient support last season rendering that argument as a good enough reason to resign them worthless.

Adams now has a bloated, insufficient bottom half of the roster with the same holes as last season. The tradable chips have little to no value and at this point of the offseason he, as manager of the Buffalo Sabres, has to rely on free agency and trades to fill the holes with an organizational history of failure in those departments.

I agree have No problem with the signing and he will help, but he has a injury history. I like both D signings and hope Clifton can step up but there both not considered Top 4 D at this point and hopefully that changes with Clifton. But asking a player to add 3 or 4min a night to there style is alot especially when you haven't really done it. Still think we are going after Pesce, Hanifin or Tanev, just hard to do right know with the landscape in the NHL.
- Buff36

There has to be a move coming.
Adding a top 4 Dman changes the backend very significantly. I'll wait to see.

Johnson is a one year stop gap until RJ is ready to take over. Not a bad thing having RJ play a bulk of the season in Rochester. The 1 year term is perfect,especially if EJ has a voice inside the D room.

There has to be another move coming
- IonSabres

I would trade Ryan Johnson right now if it meant bringing back a true top 4 defender like Pesce or Toews.

I have zero concern with holding on to all the toys.

How many teams, if any, are interested in any of Olofsson, Bryson, Lyubushkin or Jokiharju?

Will ownership allow the Sabres to retain on any of those players, if needed, to make a deal?

Adams has overpaid:

Okposo
Girgs
Johnson
Jost

I'll leave Clifton off the list as he his potential could meet the price tag.

There is $5mm combined in this group of wasted money, that should've been used to properly support the core and fill voids in the roster. The partial good qualities each individual brings from that group has been tried and tested resulting in failure.

The excuse that all of these are 1 year contracts so its no big deal works if the upcoming season is only looked upon as a development year. This group of players is solely looked upon to bring veteran presence, their individual stats of strong defense provided insufficient support last season rendering that argument as a good enough reason to resign them worthless.

Adams now has a bloated, insufficient bottom half of the roster with the same holes as last season. The tradable chips have little to no value and at this point of the offseason he, as manager of the Buffalo Sabres, has to rely on free agency and trades to fill the holes with an organizational history of failure in those departments.
- washedup20

Sabres have $5.8M worth of cap. Waiving Comrie and Bryson frees up another $2M (ideally they are cap dumps in a trade which would then free up another $1.5M give or take).

If Durzi can pull a second rounder, Joker must have some value to a team somewhere. That’s $2.5M of money moving out in a potential trade.

Wildcard is Olofsson. Tarasenko signing and the Debrincant trade may help facilitate a move there for the teams that still need scoring help. Withholding 50% cap frees up just over another $2M.

What the Sabres have done at the bottom of the lineup doesn’t prohibit them from doing anything.

Why the hate for KA and your love for JP or TM? Did one of the disastrous duo gm’s float inside info to your reporter uncle while KA runs a tight ship? Thus no insider info to you thus the hatred for a gm who’s made the Sabres relevant again.
- turbo044

Well I wouldn't say there's plenty of time for moves, I mean we have already seen how different this offseason has been. A lot of teams having Cap problems and trades are more difficult because of that.
- Buff36

same people defending the lack of that move or 2 to upgrade the team, said wait for the summer to end when we traded for bishop

of course they didn't do sh!t after the bishop trade last summer

Sabres have $5.8M worth of cap. Waiving Comrie and Bryson frees up another $2M (ideally they are cap dumps in a trade which would then free up another $1.5M give or take).

If Durzi can pull a second rounder, Joker must have some value to a team somewhere. That’s $2.5M of money moving out in a potential trade.

Wildcard is Olofsson. Tarasenko signing and the Debrincant trade may help facilitate a move there for the teams that still need scoring help. Withholding 50% cap frees up just over another $2M.

What the Sabres have done at the bottom of the lineup doesn’t prohibit them from doing anything.
- Swedish_Jesus

I'm not sure ownership would OK retaining 50% on Olofsson for a full season.

Sabres have $5.8M worth of cap. Waiving Comrie and Bryson frees up another $2M (ideally they are cap dumps in a trade which would then free up another $1.5M give or take).

If Durzi can pull a second rounder, Joker must have some value to a team somewhere. That’s $2.5M of money moving out in a potential trade.

Wildcard is Olofsson. Tarasenko signing and the Debrincant trade may help facilitate a move there for the teams that still need scoring help. Withholding 50% cap frees up just over another $2M.

What the Sabres have done at the bottom of the lineup doesn’t prohibit them from doing anything.
- Swedish_Jesus

a few years ago, adams walked into a gm's wet dream

now we are talking cap dumps

Sabres have $5.8M worth of cap. Waiving Comrie and Bryson frees up another $2M (ideally they are cap dumps in a trade which would then free up another $1.5M give or take).

If Durzi can pull a second rounder, Joker must have some value to a team somewhere. That’s $2.5M of money moving out in a potential trade.

Wildcard is Olofsson. Tarasenko signing and the Debrincant trade may help facilitate a move there for the teams that still need scoring help. Withholding 50% cap frees up just over another $2M.

What the Sabres have done at the bottom of the lineup doesn’t prohibit them from doing anything.
- Swedish_Jesus

They have a full roster, signing those players is the actual problem, these bodies fill roles insufficiently creating voids in the roster that will remain next season. That's why signing support players is the hard part of GM'ing and Adams has failed every season at it.

They have 5 goalies, not one person here can genuinely say any of them are NHL starters.

You cant brush off these positions, this is what pushes the core players to excel and makes a ton of difference on winning teams.

The Oilers have the most elite talent up front in the history of the game but their support players fail every season resulting in McDavid on the golf course. Hockey requires a full competent roster to compete.

Toronto fails every year relying on talent, Tampa failed until they brought in the big rig and the heavy weights on and on and on

a few years ago, adams walked into a gm's wet dream

now we are talking cap dumps
- homiedclown

Ben Bishop retired.

a few years ago, adams walked into a gm's wet dream

now we are talking cap dumps
- homiedclown

For over a year you all complained that we were a cap floor team, now we are complaining about spending money ?

Like seriously ?

You always assume that the only way to get to the next level is by making trades.
- Slump Buster

I don’t know how you garner that from what I said

Rarely are the best players the best value players.

Jack Eichel isn’t the best value at 10 mil.

When they were looking for a center to put them over the top, they didn’t go out and get someone who’s only ever played 2C and say “Oh this is good value he can *maybe* slide up and play 1C”
No they filled their need with the best available player

They have a full roster, signing those players is the actual problem, these bodies fill roles insufficiently creating voids in the roster that will remain next season. That's why signing support players is the hard part of GM'ing and Adams has failed every season at it.

They have 5 goalies, not one person here can genuinely say any of them are NHL starters.

You cant brush off these positions, this is what pushes the core players to excel and makes a ton of difference on winning teams.

The Oilers have the most elite talent up front in the history of the game but their support players fail every season resulting in McDavid on the golf course. Hockey requires a full competent roster to compete.

Toronto fails every year relying on talent, Tampa failed until they brought in the big rig and the heavy weights on and on and on
- washedup20

Difference between Buffalo and Toronto, is that Buffalo has talent out the ying Yang in the pipeline.

The Leafs never got contributions from players the last several years from players on ELC’s.

That should not be an issue here.

I don’t know how you garner that from what I said

Rarely are the best players the best value players.

Jack Eichel isn’t the best value at 10 mil.

When they were looking for a center to put them over the top, they didn’t go out and get someone who’s only ever played 2C and say “Oh this is good value he can *maybe* slide up and play 1C”
No they filled their need with the best available player
- sbroads24

Chandler Stephenson and Brett Howden were not seen as a 2C or a 2LW when acquired but they grew into those roles.

If you told me 3 years ago you could win a Stanley Cup with those two players in your top 6 I would have laughed in your face

Difference between Buffalo and Toronto, is that Buffalo has talent out the ying Yang in the pipeline.

The Leafs never got contributions from players the last several years from players on ELC’s.

That should not be an issue here.
- Swedish_Jesus

Maybe, the Sabres have prospects who should fill top 6 roles, which the Sabres have plenty of. The Sabres have 0 depth/role players in the system to support those prospects, so where are these kids going to play in the lineup?

The similarity to Buffalo and Toronto is they both have hyper focused on acquiring talent to the extreme resulting in sacrificing the rest of the roster.

At least Toronto's core can consistently win in the regular season. The moves they made this offseason had to be extreme in an attempt to balance the roster.

Maybe, the Sabres have prospects who should fill top 6 roles, which the Sabres have plenty of. The Sabres have 0 depth/role players in the system to support those prospects, so where are these kids going to play in the lineup?

The similarity to Buffalo and Toronto is they both have hyper focused on acquiring talent to the extreme resulting in sacrificing the rest of the roster.

At least Toronto's core can consistently win in the regular season. The moves they made this offseason had to be extreme in an attempt to balance the roster.
- washedup20

Free agency will be filled with those guys year after year.

Filling your top 9 with elite talent is infinitely harder then figuring out which of the 400 depth players that will be available year in and year out to fill the bottom of the roster

Chandler Stephenson and Brett Howden were not seen as a 2C or a 2LW when acquired but they grew into those roles.

If you told me 3 years ago you could win a Stanley Cup with those two players in your top 6 I would have laughed in your face
- Swedish_Jesus

Sure and if you told me Alex Tuch would be over a PPG player 3 years ago I’d have laughed.

The entire point of having guys on value deals like Thompson, Cozens, Tuch, Mitts (for now) etc is so in a year they need to get over the hump we can get a little frisky in the trade/UFA market.

They can afford to overpay someone like Tatar for a year or two

Instead they’re being ultra conservative so far

sabres have no holes

10/10

I've decided to merge a few of our prospects and now we have Matt Kulichson at 2RW and Erik Strbakarthy at 3RD.

In goal, I put Ryan Miller, Dominik Hasek and Tom Barrasso, juiced them and injected them into Levi's ass.

10/10