What do you think of the no hitting rule for the 3 on 3?
- washedup20

Its exhibition, so that's fine imo

I think you bring up some good points with Adam's and lack of toughness.

Last 4 player additions

Asplund out
Olofsson out for #12
Bryson out Johnson in most likely
Joker maybe out and Clifton in.

Maybe that's not earth shattering, but it's not just lip service. Hes adding harder to play agaisnt guys....


Slowly

Good well thought out post and I appreciate your opinion.

I'm kinda probably reasoning this out a bit too much with some fandom but:

The entire defense man for man should be better.
Dahlin better
Samuelsson healthier and better
Power older and better

Stealing a bottom pair from the division opponents and using Clifford instead of joker is an upgrade.
Boosh should be healthier
Johnson is exactly what this core needs IMO. A player / coach.
Joker down a paring to 3rd should help him.

Last 4 moves ka made have addressed the softness factor.

Stillman
#12
Johnosn
Clifford.

Maybe they a baby steps, but that's 4 harder to play against guys in a row....
- Boss34

There are still a few question marks in what you posted

Samuelsson hasn't shown he can stay healthy...

Using Clifton instead of Joker in the top 4 isn't a sure thing, Clifton hasn't played those types of minutes before, can he do it? We will see.

Greenway is still very much a question mark, if Donnie can get the Minnesota stink off of him that would be huge but that is still a question mark.

I like Boosh on the bottom pair, but then you're looking at Joker/Johnson on that 3rd pair with him which should be better but Johnson is not a spring chicken anymore. Adams has put himself in the corner of getting anything of value from a potential Joker trade, GMs know they have 10 guys under contract and they aren't going to give up anything of value to take on a guy that Buffalo has to move due to roster size.

When Adams trades any of his higher rated prospects, that would be the first of such trade for him...
- Stripes77

Who's 1st on your list of prospects to move?

Somebody stand out as unlikable?

Year 4 of a 5 year plan.....

Who's 1st on your list of prospects to move?

Somebody stand out as unlikable?

Year 4 of a 5 year plan.....
- Boss34

Every prospect is available for the right player, and that includes who they just drafted, along with Quinn, Peterka, and Krebs.

If I could have gotten a impact player with term that helped me now, I still would have traded the pick.
- Buff36

A lot of those traded at the draft.... oh wait... there were no trades..

Who's 1st on your list of prospects to move?

Somebody stand out as unlikable?

Year 4 of a 5 year plan.....
- Boss34

Ostlund, Rosen, and for the right player I would move Savioe. Those three would get you the most for a prospect I would be willing to move without hesitation (again for the right player).

Nobody is untouchable if you're getting the right player. Nobody is standing out as "unlikeable".

Question for those who support the methodical building method: if the Sabres miss the playoffs by a couple points next season, would you still support the plan?
- Hank Balling

Depends what happens throughout the year.

Zach Benson is extremely good and is worthy of a top 10 pick. His height, and Arizona being Arizona, allowed him to fall to us.

People (local media/bloggers) were spazzing out for two months wondering if Benson would fall to us due to size. Getting a kid like that allows you to use a prospect asset like a Rosen to improve your team.

If the Sabres start reaching playoff level hockey, those prospects are going to be worth more than our first round picks.

Something to consider.
- TheSabresTaco

Most NHL draft lists had Benson as the best 5th or 6th player in the draft.

Some mocks a month before the draft, had benson going to the sharks.

So yeah, who knows why he fell

I don't understand why it seems to be written in stone that Peterka and Quinn need to be on the 2nd line with Cozens.

There would be absolutely nothing wrong with bringing in another winger, or even two, that are better as players on Cozens line.

Perhaps a Tuch lite winger added to Cozens line would make a giant difference.

Let Peterka and Quinn do damage in the 3rd line.
- kingcong39

This should be the summer of moving people down the depth chart

So far not even a sniff of that

Depends what happens throughout the year.
- DirtyDan

It's just one season

Short answer yes. Long answer isn’t worth it because no matter how an answer is phrased you’ll grab something completely out of context and slam dunk on it convinced you’ve made a point. And then the same three sock puppet accounts will all magically appear and agree with you.
- SoCalPucks

There are still a few question marks in what you posted

Samuelsson hasn't shown he can stay healthy...

Using Clifton instead of Joker in the top 4 isn't a sure thing, Clifton hasn't played those types of minutes before, can he do it? We will see.

Greenway is still very much a question mark, if Donnie can get the Minnesota stink off of him that would be huge but that is still a question mark.

I like Boosh on the bottom pair, but then you're looking at Joker/Johnson on that 3rd pair with him which should be better but Johnson is not a spring chicken anymore. Adams has put himself in the corner of getting anything of value from a potential Joker trade, GMs know they have 10 guys under contract and they aren't going to give up anything of value to take on a guy that Buffalo has to move due to roster size.
- Stripes77

Very good points.

Samuelsson shouldnt miss more games from injury, but carrying 8 actual nhl defenseman is a smart back up plan.

Clifton played 78 games on the best regular season team of all time. He has to be an upgrade over joker. They paid him good $ and I love his grittiness for a smaller player.

Greenway could definitely suck, but as an immediate replacement for olofsson, the team desperately needed his size and toughness. Although I dont think hes very tough, but compared to olo..

Johnson is gonna be a player coach. Not expecting a lot, but hes known for the pk , another week spot for the Sabres.

I strongly believe in internal growth.

I see all of your points and I'm on board... just being optimistic....

This should be the summer of moving people down the depth chart

So far not even a sniff of that
- ieetbred

Defense. But alrite

The “anger” is because those of us that can math recognize the depth of the prospect pool, and the roster spots we have available. Nobody thought we weren’t going to get a promising player at 13. You keep thinking you’re scoring points but what’s really happening is you’re mischaracterizing the arguments being made, and demonstrating an inability to count. And yes..whatever we trade we hurt a little. That’s why we call them good prospects.
- SoCalPucks

There were ZERO trades at the draft. but yeah keep shootin

Every prospect is available for the right player, and that includes who they just drafted, along with Quinn, Peterka, and Krebs.
- kingcong39

What trade order to you have them listed in?

Rosen
Ostlund
Kulich
Savoie
Krebs
Peterka
Quinn

I wouldnt move either peterka or Quinn unless it's for a real NHL star. Just an opinion.

There were ZERO trades at the draft. but yeah keep shootin
- DirtyDan

Plenty before and some after

Very good points.

Samuelsson shouldnt miss more games from injury, but carrying 8 actual nhl defenseman is a smart back up plan.

Clifton played 78 games on the best regular season team of all time. He has to be an upgrade over joker. They paid him good $ and I love his grittiness for a smaller player.

Greenway could definitely suck, but as an immediate replacement for olofsson, the team desperately needed his size and toughness. Although I dont think hes very tough, but compared to olo..

Johnson is gonna be a player coach. Not expecting a lot, but hes known for the pk , another week spot for the Sabres.

I strongly believe in internal growth.

I see all of your points and I'm on board... just being optimistic....
- Boss34

Nothing wrong with being optimistic, the biggest question mark is still in net for me.

Greenway could be a good Quinn replacement, or maybe they really shake up the lines a bit:

Skinner Tage Greenway
Quinn Cozens Tuch
JJ Krebs Mitts
Larry Line

There are still a few question marks in what you posted

Samuelsson hasn't shown he can stay healthy...

Using Clifton instead of Joker in the top 4 isn't a sure thing, Clifton hasn't played those types of minutes before, can he do it? We will see.

Greenway is still very much a question mark, if Donnie can get the Minnesota stink off of him that would be huge but that is still a question mark.

I like Boosh on the bottom pair, but then you're looking at Joker/Johnson on that 3rd pair with him which should be better but Johnson is not a spring chicken anymore. Adams has put himself in the corner of getting anything of value from a potential Joker trade, GMs know they have 10 guys under contract and they aren't going to give up anything of value to take on a guy that Buffalo has to move due to roster size.
- Stripes77

Yes, he has... And he did well.

First half of Boston's season. Now that is a great team and system but his metrics are better when he has a star D-man.... if only we had one

Ostlund, Rosen, and for the right player I would move Savioe. Those three would get you the most for a prospect I would be willing to move without hesitation (again for the right player).

Nobody is untouchable if you're getting the right player. Nobody is standing out as "unlikeable".
- Stripes77

👍

Makes sense, although I'm not moving savoie personally.

Maybe something like ostlund or Rosen and a 2nd for cater hart would make some sense to me.

I'm out on helly and definitely no gibson IMO

I love building the farm system, right or wrong.

Plenty before and some after
- washedup20

Like 3 real trades. Everything else was cap dumps

PLD, Newhook and Edmund.

Pesce still hasn't been done, Debrincat has been close for the last week. Hellybuck, Everything else in Winnipeg

What trade order to you have them listed in?

Rosen
Ostlund
Kulich
Savoie
Krebs
Peterka
Quinn

I wouldnt move either peterka or Quinn unless it's for a real NHL star. Just an opinion.
- Boss34

I would trade any of the players listed above for this player, as long as he would agree to an extension:

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/devon-toews

This should be the summer of moving people down the depth chart

So far not even a sniff of that
- ieetbred

So you have joker with power still?

That's odd, pretty sure clifton has moved joker down and johnson has moved bryson to Rochester.

Defense. But alrite
- DirtyDan

I like the Clifton signing but he's not a top 4 dman. 28 years old. Most ice time he's averaged is 18mins

BuT aLrIGhT

Nothing wrong with being optimistic, the biggest question mark is still in net for me.

Greenway could be a good Quinn replacement, or maybe they really shake up the lines a bit:

Skinner Tage Greenway
Quinn Cozens Tuch
JJ Krebs Mitts
Larry Line
- Stripes77

Doesn't every team have some kind of question in net? I can't think of too many teams that are rock-solid in starter and backup. For example, look at Jersey. Everyone loved Vanacek, until the playoffs hit and he stunk up the joint. Schmid played very well in the regular season and playoffs in a limited sample size. This is NOT to say that they have the same kind of questions that we have, it is just to illustrate that every team has a bit of an unknown in that area.

Defense. But alrite
- DirtyDan

Dahiln
Samuelsson
Power
Joker
Boosh
Bryson
Stillman
Clague
Johnson
Clifton

Depth chart