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Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 2 @ 9:51 PM ET
They don't suck. Is it a good use of 13m? You seem to be dodging from every angle you can think of.

and I do think they made veteran leadership at the bottom of roster a priority

- Lunaion


Jost at his $ is fine. The others arent. is that money spent on them on a one year deal preventing them from making other moves to make the playoffs? no. Is the bottom six a big part in why they will or wont make the playoffs? no.

And is veteran leadership for absolutely no term commitment really a bad idea?

I mean this whole thing stems from the idea that they could have efficiently spent 13 million dollars in Free agency, an area best known for being an inefficient blender that sinks teams, to sign bottom six players that would have made significant improvements.

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 2 @ 9:52 PM ET
Best adams can do is Evan Rodrigues.
- joshs

He already signed
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 2 @ 9:54 PM ET
That veteran leadership has never led us to shat, ever! Yet, they’ve collectively collected enough money from us to buy the city of Lockport
- lulags


To be fair I think I've got that in an old glass gallon Frank's jug of just pennies, nickels, and dimes.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 2 @ 9:54 PM ET
Again, most of the one year bottom six options are basically this. They are either defense only, or faceoff guys. Anyone who has even half of the attributes you listed is going to be playing significantly more minutes, making more money and with term.

If I thought his deal was preventing them from making other moves, like in net, id be upset. But it shouldn't

- Michael Ghofrani

Hathaway signed for 2yrs at 2.3m avv, I would take him over both those plugs on are 4th line.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 2 @ 9:55 PM ET
Jost at his $ is fine. The others arent. is that money spent on them on a one year deal preventing them from making other moves to make the playoffs? no. Is the bottom six a big part in why they will or wont make the playoffs? no.

And is veteran leadership for absolutely no term commitment really a bad idea?

I mean this whole thing stems from the idea that they could have efficiently spent 13 million dollars in Free agency, an area best known for being an inefficient blender that sinks teams, to sign bottom six players that would have made significant improvements.

- Michael Ghofrani


For me, it seems that they are almost frozen in fear of stepping out beyond their comfort zone when trading for or signing any players, and falling into only what they're familiar with.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 2 @ 9:56 PM ET
For me, it seems that they are almost frozen in fear of stepping out beyond their comfort zone when trading for or signing any players, and falling into only what they're familiar with.
- kingcong39



My thing is i dont think that many FAs actually will want to sign here on team friendly deals for the bottom six until they get in. The bulk of their work should be through trades.

joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jul 2 @ 10:01 PM ET
He already signed
- Buff36


Well now your just trying to hurt me lol
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 2 @ 10:03 PM ET
Domi is a Leaf

Maroon traded to Minnesota
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:03 PM ET
My thing is i dont think that many FAs actually will want to sign here on team friendly deals for the bottom six until they get in. The bulk of their work should be through trades.
- Michael Ghofrani


I'm talking about the entire roster, not just the bottom 6 forwards.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jul 2 @ 10:04 PM ET
My thing is i dont think that many FAs actually will want to sign here on team friendly deals for the bottom six until they get in. The bulk of their work should be through trades.
- Michael Ghofrani


Just wait till we have Lake Erie cruises and then all those free agents are gonna be sorry for not signing here!
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 2 @ 10:04 PM ET
I'm talking about the entire roster, not just the bottom 6 forwards.
- kingcong39


Maybe, I think eventually he'll have no choice. Either he's going to do it or they'll have to find someone who will.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 2 @ 10:07 PM ET
Domi is a Leaf

Maroon traded to Minnesota

- Stripes77

Interesting even good teams try to get better.
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 2 @ 10:10 PM ET
My thing is i dont think that many FAs actually will want to sign here on team friendly deals for the bottom six until they get in. The bulk of their work should be through trades.
- Michael Ghofrani


Which have been far and few between.

Something has to give I would think.

Unless Calgary and Winnipeg are going to lose everyone for nothing in 12 months which is bad business.

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 2 @ 10:12 PM ET
Which have been far and few between.

Something has to give I would think.

Unless Calgary and Winnipeg are going to lose everyone for nothing in 12 months which is bad business.

- Swedish_Jesus


I'm pretty sure Vegas and Florida are very, very happy with the very big trades they've made.
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:12 PM ET
To be fair I think I've got that in an old glass gallon Frank's jug of just pennies, nickels, and dimes.
- Wetbandit1

😂😂😂😂
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 2 @ 10:13 PM ET
I'm pretty sure Vegas and Florida are very, very happy with the very big trades they've made.
- Wetbandit1


Think he meant this summer
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 2 @ 10:15 PM ET
Think he meant this summer
- Michael Ghofrani


Yep.

Only Dubois so far.

We already have the better version in Cozens signed to an even better contract
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 2 @ 10:18 PM ET
Yep.

Only Dubois so far.

We already have the better version in Cozens signed to an even better contract

- Swedish_Jesus



Cgy will trade Hanifin at some point, ditto OTT and Debrincat.

I suspect WPG will keep Hellebuyck for the year though. They can't rebuild, ownership is 100% against that.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:19 PM ET
Jost at his $ is fine. The others arent. is that money spent on them on a one year deal preventing them from making other moves to make the playoffs? no. Is the bottom six a big part in why they will or wont make the playoffs? no.

And is veteran leadership for absolutely no term commitment really a bad idea?

I mean this whole thing stems from the idea that they could have efficiently spent 13 million dollars in Free agency, an area best known for being an inefficient blender that sinks teams, to sign bottom six players that would have made significant improvements.

- Michael Ghofrani


If this is their budget, it just might.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 2 @ 10:24 PM ET
Cgy will trade Hanifin at some point, ditto OTT and Debrincat.

I suspect WPG will keep Hellebuyck for the year though. They can't rebuild, ownership is 100% against that.

- Michael Ghofrani

This is why the “patience” approach can sometimes backfire

Teams change course all the time for a myriad of reasons.

There’s always 4-5 bigger games everyone expects to move that never actually move. You sometimes are left holding the proverbial bag of poop.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 2 @ 10:26 PM ET
This is why the “patience” approach can sometimes backfire

Teams change course all the time for a myriad of reasons.

There’s always 4-5 bigger games everyone expects to move that never actually move. You sometimes are left holding the proverbial bag of poop.

- sbroads24


Its a risk, and if it backfires its definitely on Adams. But I will begrudgingly wait until September before I quit on them
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 2 @ 10:28 PM ET
A lot of missed opportunities. Dedicating 3 of 12 spots to Jost, Okposo, Girgensons without seeing what was available first was a new GM mistake. We owe them nothing. Your job is to improve the team, Period. That’s my opinion.
- lulags


Jost for what his role was last year was good for what he did.

As for okposo ….. and even girgensons. I can’t stand them. (Very well known me here) But they aren’t the problem.

They are on 1 year deal that don’t hurt the team long term.

If you are so wise. Who is playing on the Sabres 4th line? Since you know everything
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:29 PM ET
This is why the “patience” approach can sometimes backfire

Teams change course all the time for a myriad of reasons.

There’s always 4-5 bigger games everyone expects to move that never actually move. You sometimes are left holding the proverbial bag of poop.

- sbroads24


That's the scary part of holding on to these extra players right now.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 2 @ 10:29 PM ET
Domi is a Leaf

Maroon traded to Minnesota

- Stripes77



Where do the leafs get the cap space
Swedish_Jesus
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.02.2019

Jul 2 @ 10:30 PM ET
Where do the leafs get the cap space
- Sabretooth9


Hopefully they buy out TJ Brodie.
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