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IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:26 AM ET
435 games more than you a## wipe
- Anderdog

Aww. Does your butt hurt
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 10:34 AM ET
As of right now there’s a scenario where UPL stays and Henri Jokiharju is the teams #4 D man again.

Just absolutely insane if that’s what this summer is
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
Aww. Does your butt hurt
- IndianaSabresFan

A little. Had some very hot wings last night and paying for it this morning.


….oh you’re not asking me.

Never mind then.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:36 AM ET
As of right now there’s a scenario where UPL stays and Henri Jokiharju is the teams #4 D man again.

Just absolutely insane if that’s what this summer is

- sbroads24


I also saw the following suggested:

Dahlin - Clifton
Power - Jokiharju
Samuelsson - Johnson
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
I also saw the following suggested:

Dahlin - Clifton
Power - Jokiharju
Samuelsson - Johnson

- kingcong39

Oh.

Thanks um…yikes is all I can say.

Clifton goes from 3rd pair d-man to a number two playing top line minutes.

Not sure how I feel about that.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
Oh.

Thanks um…yikes is all I can say.

Clifton goes from 3rd pair d-man to a number two playing top line minutes.

Not sure how I feel about that.

- ImThatGuy


I'm with 36 on his points.

If they want to go with pairings like the above, it would be an attempt to more evenly distribute the even strength ice time, while also meaning we'd likely be seeing a Dahlin - Power pairing for a few shifts every game.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 8 @ 11:05 AM ET
I also saw the following suggested:

Dahlin - Clifton
Power - Jokiharju
Samuelsson - Johnson

- kingcong39


which is idiotic. KA and Granato are not dumb, they saw how bad Joker was at #4 (with big minutes) and how he was better than okay with limited minutes playing against teams lower lines. Sammy is not playing on the 3rd line, about the dumbest thing I've ever seen
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 8 @ 11:11 AM ET
I'm with 36 on his points.

If they want to go with pairings like the above, it would be an attempt to more evenly distribute the even strength ice time, while also meaning we'd likely be seeing a Dahlin - Power pairing for a few shifts every game.

- kingcong39

All that says to me is Dahlin and Power are on the ice Less 5 on five and to me I feel like you want the opposite of that.

I very much hate this idea

Go out and get a legitimate top 4 d man for goodness sake.

Dahlin- xxx
Power - Sammy
Johnson - Clifton.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 8 @ 11:21 AM ET
I'm with 36 on his points.

If they want to go with pairings like the above, it would be an attempt to more evenly distribute the even strength ice time, while also meaning we'd likely be seeing a Dahlin - Power pairing for a few shifts every game.

- kingcong39

All that says to me is Dahlin and Power are on the ice Less 5 on five and to me I feel like you want the opposite of that.

I very much hate this idea

Go out and get a legitimate top 4 d man for goodness sake.

Dahlin- xxx
Power - Sammy
Johnson - Clifton.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 8 @ 11:23 AM ET
which is idiotic. KA and Granato are not dumb, they saw how bad Joker was at #4 (with big minutes) and how he was better than okay with limited minutes playing against teams lower lines. Sammy is not playing on the 3rd line, about the dumbest thing I've ever seen
- turbo044


I doubt the do that specific lineup myself. Yet the concept is good in theory to more evenly distribute the 5v5 minutes as was the central point, tome anyway. They need one more upgrade on the right side though,IMO

A lineup that would work well:
Dahlin Pesce
Power Clifton
Sammy Johnson

And they could also revert back to the following for portions of the game
Sammy Dahlin
Power Pesce
Johnson Clifton

As well as pair Power Dahlin whe offense is needed.

I see Granato moving his pairings around, rather than always running out the same six in the same spots. Could also see them carry 7 D and rotate in Stillman for some shifts too.

Go get him Adams!!
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 8 @ 11:24 AM ET
As of right now there’s a scenario where UPL stays and Henri Jokiharju is the teams #4 D man again.

Just absolutely insane if that’s what this summer is

- sbroads24


I'd add VO dressing and moving up in lineup.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 8 @ 11:26 AM ET
I also saw the following suggested:

Dahlin - Clifton
Power - Jokiharju
Samuelsson - Johnson

- kingcong39


The idea that they actually do care about R vs L is growing. Never trust anything a GM or coach says.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
All that says to me is Dahlin and Power are on the ice Less 5 on five and to me I feel like you want the opposite of that.

I very much hate this idea

Go out and get a legitimate top 4 d man for goodness sake.

Dahlin- xxx
Power - Sammy
Johnson - Clifton.

- ImThatGuy


Completely agree about getting a real, experienced top 4.

If you give Dahlin and Power 5 shifts together at even strength during the course of a game, that likely makes up the 2 minute gap in ice time.

During a blowout, no need.

When behind by one in the 3rd period, give them more shifts together.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 11:35 AM ET
The idea that they actually do care about R vs L is growing. Never trust anything a GM or coach says.
- Lunaion


I do get the desire behind wanting to more evenly distribute the even strength ice time.

Here's a fun one: How many of their true RHD's are actually good?

Clifton may be the only one.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 11:38 AM ET
I do get the desire behind wanting to more evenly distribute the even strength ice time.

Here's a fun one: How many of their true RHD's are actually good?

Clifton may be the only one.

- kingcong39

Are we remotely sure he’s good?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 8 @ 11:42 AM ET
Are we remotely sure he’s good?
- sbroads24


As a 3rd pairing RHD, yes.

As anything more than that, it is not certain.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 8 @ 11:45 AM ET
Oh.

Thanks um…yikes is all I can say.

Clifton goes from 3rd pair d-man to a number two playing top line minutes.

Not sure how I feel about that.

- ImThatGuy

Probably just the wings.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 8 @ 11:45 AM ET
As a 3rd pairing RHD, yes.

As anything more than that, it is not certain.

- kingcong39

I’m sure he’s gonna be ok wherever he is and not a disaster but playing 17 min a night for one of the best year over year coached and structured defenses probably does wonders for his underlying numbers
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Jul 8 @ 11:46 AM ET
As a 3rd pairing RHD, yes.

As anything more than that, it is not certain.

- kingcong39

I hear he is a chess master
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 11:53 AM ET
As of right now there’s a scenario where UPL stays and Henri Jokiharju is the teams #4 D man again.

Just absolutely insane if that’s what this summer is

- sbroads24
"Adams says Luukkonen stayed in Buffalo for a while to have a little procedure on his ankle, and Adams had him over to watch playoff hockey and talk. Adams says he liked the opportunity to just spend time with his goalie, and he was able to talk to him about how much they believe in him. They also talked about things to work on to get better at."


https://www.audacy.com/wg...t-want-to-come-to-buffalo
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 11:56 AM ET
Probably just the wings.
- IndianaSabresFan

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 8 @ 11:56 AM ET
Probably just the wings.
- IndianaSabresFan

Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jul 8 @ 12:22 PM ET
If Adams could get Gibson at 5 million. So ducks hold 1.4 mill

We all sign up for that

- Sabretooth9

You don’t speak for everyone you dumb son of a female dog. Also, say you don’t know poop and leave it at that.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
Athletic gives the Sabres (1 of 8 nhl teams) a B+ for offseason.

Bozos around here 😭😭😭
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
I doubt the do that specific lineup myself. Yet the concept is good in theory to more evenly distribute the 5v5 minutes as was the central point, tome anyway. They need one more upgrade on the right side though,IMO

A lineup that would work well:
Dahlin Pesce
Power Clifton
Sammy Johnson

And they could also revert back to the following for portions of the game
Sammy Dahlin
Power Pesce
Johnson Clifton

As well as pair Power Dahlin whe offense is needed.

I see Granato moving his pairings around, rather than always running out the same six in the same spots. Could also see them carry 7 D and rotate in Stillman for some shifts too.

Go get him Adams!!

- IonSabres


The last thing you do when you have a Dahlin and Power is try to find ways to take minutes away from. This is the most flawed strategy I've seen in a long time and literally has been employed but nobody in the history of the NHL. Dahlin and Power will get their 24 minutes and will be fine with it. Who is paired with them for those 24 minutes will be a mix and match. Sammy will get the majority with Dahlin while Power's partner will vary
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