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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 7 @ 6:52 PM ET
Idk man the stats are pretty bad.

He threw a TD on 1.8% of his attempts. The worst mark for eligible QBs. 2nd worst was Zach Wilson at 2.5%.

- Feds91Stammer

The scheme was awful and the offense didn’t do anything until two minute drills during which he made a lot of good decisions. The stats are awful. He could be a bust. But the situation was also terrible and I’ve seen so many QBs put in similar situations absolutely crumble but he had moxy. I know that’s a lot of football guy intangible stuff but when it comes to QBs I truly believe that matters and mentality is over half the battle.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 7 @ 6:56 PM ET
The scheme was awful and the offense didn’t do anything until two minute drills during which he made a lot of good decisions. The stats are awful. He could be a bust. But the situation was also terrible and I’ve seen so many QBs put in similar situations absolutely crumble but he had moxy. I know that’s a lot of football guy intangible stuff but when it comes to QBs I truly believe that matters and mentality is over half the battle.
- Victoro311

Fair enough and agreed on the intangible stuff. We’ve seen plenty of Dak’s that can rack up the stats but find a way to choke on the big stage.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 7 @ 7:00 PM ET
Why do we have eight fourth liners now?
- Victoro311


Andreas Johnsson now too. I mean does this indicate Carter/granlund will be gone?
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 7 @ 7:03 PM ET
Andreas Johnsson now too. I mean does this indicate Carter/granlund will be gone?
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I mean, if you sign 8 4th line players on 2 way contracts, maybe the hope is you get 1 or 2 of those guys to have a career year like Heinen or Rodrigues
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 7 @ 7:11 PM ET
I mean, if you sign 8 4th line players on 2 way contracts, maybe the hope is you get 1 or 2 of those guys to have a career year like Heinen or Rodrigues
- drummer829

Bingo. Both guys today are much closer to the signing of Caggiula than Matt Cullen, but these help the depth and hopefully help wilkes get some w's. A successful farm team helps with development. Something Hextall never cared about.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 7 @ 7:11 PM ET
I mean, if you sign 8 4th line players on 2 way contracts, maybe the hope is you get 1 or 2 of those guys to have a career year like Heinen or Rodrigues
- drummer829


That was my thought as well. Maybe someone shows they can step up or the AHL just gets better depth.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:33 PM ET
The scheme was awful and the offense didn’t do anything until two minute drills during which he made a lot of good decisions. The stats are awful. He could be a bust. But the situation was also terrible and I’ve seen so many QBs put in similar situations absolutely crumble but he had moxy. I know that’s a lot of football guy intangible stuff but when it comes to QBs I truly believe that matters and mentality is over half the battle.
- Victoro311

We've seen it with busted old Ben and with Kenny. When Canada doesn't have control we do good. Ben would just straight up ignore him at times and Kenny pulled the old mic isn't working when he was banging his helmet and poop got done hahaha. So Canada sucks.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:36 PM ET
I mean, if you sign 8 4th line players on 2 way contracts, maybe the hope is you get 1 or 2 of those guys to have a career year like Heinen or Rodrigues
- drummer829

Well at least if he's throwing poop at the wall it's not expensive poop like Rutherford did haha.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 7 @ 7:50 PM ET
I mean, if you sign 8 4th line players on 2 way contracts, maybe the hope is you get 1 or 2 of those guys to have a career year like Heinen or Rodrigues
- drummer829


I hope it isn't a sign that were going to lose DOC.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:59 PM ET
I hope it isn't a sign that were going to lose DOC.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Doc is one of our better bottom line guys he should be third line
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 7 @ 8:03 PM ET
I hope it isn't a sign that were going to lose DOC.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I can’t see how. I like him on the 4th line for sure, but it didn’t seem like he did anything to deserve a big pay raise. I’d hope Dubas keeps him because he’s only 25 and it seems like those bottom 6 players develop a little slower.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 7 @ 8:29 PM ET
Doc is one of our better bottom line guys he should be third line
- 668710

Reasonable expectations this season - 10 goals, 20 points at 5v5 in bottom 6 minutes with no PP and very little PK time.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 7 @ 9:23 PM ET
Reasonable expectations this season - 10 goals, 20 points at 5v5 in bottom 6 minutes with no PP and very little PK time.
- burgh4life87

Yea for sure. I'd like to see him and Nylander play together with either Eller or Accari centering them.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 7 @ 9:35 PM ET
Yea for sure. I'd like to see him and Nylander play together with either Eller or Accari centering them.
- 668710

I'd love to see them with a better offensive center. With the idea of Nieto Eller Acciari being the new ZAR Teddy Tanev line. I would think DOC *Suter Nylander/Puustinen could be a really solid productive 5v5 line.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 7 @ 11:21 PM ET
I hope it isn't a sign that were going to lose DOC.
- YouMeAndDupuis9



Maybe his rights are being asked to be part of the EK deal. He lights it up in the AHL just like Nylander did. Both deserve bigger shot in the NHL and I believe others outside of the organization may as well.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 7 @ 11:33 PM ET
I'd love to see them with a better offensive center. With the idea of Nieto Eller Acciari being the new ZAR Teddy Tanev line. I would think DOC *Suter Nylander/Puustinen could be a really solid productive 5v5 line.
- burgh4life87

I wish Poulin had still been playing, he was showing promise as a center. Could have been a solid 3c
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 11:39 PM ET
I wish Poulin had still been playing, he was showing promise as a center. Could have been a solid 3c
- 668710


Hasn’t been skating at all so he’s prob gonna suck the first half the year, but maybe we’ll see how how he does then lol
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 8 @ 12:42 AM ET
Hasn’t been skating at all so he’s prob gonna suck the first half the year, but maybe we’ll see how how he does then lol
- 10inchTerror

There's a chance he never recovers. Guess we'll see haha.
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