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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 7 @ 1:34 PM ET
Gonna be Granlund, POJ, Rutta, and a 1st

Graves - Letang
Petts - EK
Smith - Petry

- Feds91Stammer


If the Pens get off that easy....damn. Only losing a 3rd pair D and a draft pick that is pretty much an empty asset for this team. Then dumping two cap problems. Sign me up for that.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 7 @ 1:48 PM ET
Nah. I've been pretty vocal about thinking it wont hahah. Seems fantastical to me.
- MattStrat

Everyone said they were close last Saturday. I'd have to think if Dubas really thought he was out of the running other moves would have been made already. I think we are in the thick of it and have a legit shot.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 7 @ 1:54 PM ET
Everyone said they were close last Saturday. I'd have to think if Dubas really thought he was out of the running other moves would have been made already. I think we are in the thick of it and have a legit shot.
- burgh4life87

They are in the thick of it.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jul 7 @ 2:43 PM ET
Everyone said they were close last Saturday. I'd have to think if Dubas really thought he was out of the running other moves would have been made already. I think we are in the thick of it and have a legit shot.
- burgh4life87


Matt Grzelcyk to Pens?

https://www.msn.com/en-us...matt-grzelcyk/ar-AA1dzgSY
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 7 @ 2:50 PM ET
Matt Grzelcyk to Pens?

https://www.msn.com/en-us...matt-grzelcyk/ar-AA1dzgSY

- Thunderbolt

I do not trust Kingerski. It also feels unnecessary with the Graves signing and Pettersson still here. POJ or Smith would be a much cheaper 3rd pair option and wouldn't cost us anything. *If they would be willing to trade Carlo though, I'd be down.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 7 @ 2:52 PM ET
I do not trust Kingerski. It also feels unnecessary with the Graves signing and Pettersson still here. POJ or Smith would be a much cheaper 3rd pair option and wouldn't cost us anything.
- burgh4life87

Hard to have a more unreliable duo than Murphy and Kingerski
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 7 @ 2:53 PM ET
San Jose insider on the radio just said the Pens are the most likely landing spot.
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jul 7 @ 3:17 PM ET
San Jose insider on the radio just said the Pens are the most likely landing spot.
- 668710

Cmon Kyle… just finish the deal.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 7 @ 3:22 PM ET
Since we're in waiting mode... what if we put all our chips into a different basket?

In other words, if we assume Petry would be fine as the 2nd pair RD, is there a realistic forward out there that would be worth going "all-in" on instead of Karlsson?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 7 @ 3:27 PM ET
Since we're in waiting mode... what if we put all our chips into a different basket?

In other words, if we assume Petry would be fine as the 2nd pair RD, is there a realistic forward out there that would be worth going "all-in" on instead of Karlsson?

- YouMeAndDupuis9

No.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Jul 7 @ 3:27 PM ET
Since we're in waiting mode... what if we put all our chips into a different basket?

In other words, if we assume Petry would be fine as the 2nd pair RD, is there a realistic forward out there that would be worth going "all-in" on instead of Karlsson?

- YouMeAndDupuis9



Yeah, lets trade our bad players for Ovi
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 7 @ 3:34 PM ET
Since we're in waiting mode... what if we put all our chips into a different basket?

In other words, if we assume Petry would be fine as the 2nd pair RD, is there a realistic forward out there that would be worth going "all-in" on instead of Karlsson?

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Definitely not all in, but if the Pens are looking for "hockey trades" I'd see what Calgary is doing with Backlund. Yah, he makes us even older, but he is a quality defensive center who would kill it in a 3rd line role here.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 7 @ 3:35 PM ET
Since we're in waiting mode... what if we put all our chips into a different basket?

In other words, if we assume Petry would be fine as the 2nd pair RD, is there a realistic forward out there that would be worth going "all-in" on instead of Karlsson?

- YouMeAndDupuis9

A forward more worth it to go for than Karlsson would have to either be an old super star or a younger star. Said player would need to have the leverage either via an NTC or expiring deal where they’re refusing to sign with potential teams in order to force their way to us because any package we put together can likely be beat.

The closest to realistic that meets all of these criteria is Nylander and I haven’t heard a lick of him trying to force his way to Pitt, so no I don’t think such a forward exists.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 7 @ 3:44 PM ET
That's just your reverse jinx. You aren't fooling anyone
- Feds91Stammer

Lol was just about to type this
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 7 @ 3:48 PM ET
I do not trust Kingerski. It also feels unnecessary with the Graves signing and Pettersson still here. POJ or Smith would be a much cheaper 3rd pair option and wouldn't cost us anything. *If they would be willing to trade Carlo though, I'd be down.
- burgh4life87

Agree, a LD makes no sense right now.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 7 @ 3:50 PM ET
A forward more worth it to go for than Karlsson would have to either be an old super star or a younger star. Said player would need to have the leverage either via an NTC or expiring deal where they’re refusing to sign with potential teams in order to force their way to us because any package we put together can likely be beat.

The closest to realistic that meets all of these criteria is Nylander and I haven’t heard a lick of him trying to force his way to Pitt, so no I don’t think such a forward exists.

- Victoro311


Fair. Debrincat would be another example.

I was thinking along the lines of that proposed Konecny trade actually. Use some of our assets to bring in a young 30 goal scorer, dump a bad contract, and still have assets and cap space to spare for additional moves. Take a flier on Zadina. Maybe even add Tarasenko. It wouldnt prevent us from re-upping Guentzel like Karlsson almost surely would.

Petry isn't that bad that we need to replace him.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jul 7 @ 3:51 PM ET
A forward more worth it to go for than Karlsson would have to either be an old super star or a younger star. Said player would need to have the leverage either via an NTC or expiring deal where they’re refusing to sign with potential teams in order to force their way to us because any package we put together can likely be beat.

The closest to realistic that meets all of these criteria is Nylander and I haven’t heard a lick of him trying to force his way to Pitt, so no I don’t think such a forward exists.

- Victoro311


I also think Lindholm from Calgary could be realistic based on the rumors of him possibly not resigning there. Not a “superstar” but definitely a welcomed addition to any team at a reasonable cap hit
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jul 7 @ 4:05 PM ET
Earlier one of the Pittsburgh radio guys tweeted 2 firsts, POJ and Granlund to a third team. No mention of salary retention or who the third team is. And then the tweet was deleted. So take that with a grain of salt.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 7 @ 4:11 PM ET
Earlier one of the Pittsburgh radio guys tweeted 2 firsts, POJ and Granlund to a third team. No mention of salary retention or who the third team is. And then the tweet was deleted. So take that with a grain of salt.
- greenyone

I did see that tweet or something similar. It said EK coming here at 9mil cap hit.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jul 7 @ 4:18 PM ET
Earlier one of the Pittsburgh radio guys tweeted 2 firsts, POJ and Granlund to a third team. No mention of salary retention or who the third team is. And then the tweet was deleted. So take that with a grain of salt.
- greenyone

That was Fillipponi. He isn't an insider and is known around here for always being completely wrong with his predictions and opinions. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 7 @ 4:31 PM ET
Notre Dame great Vinnie Hinostroza
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jul 7 @ 4:37 PM ET
That was Fillipponi. He isn't an insider and is known around here for always being completely wrong with his predictions and opinions. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.
- burgh4life87

That seems like an accurate description of anyone who talks about sports on the Radio for a living.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 7 @ 4:47 PM ET
That seems like an accurate description of anyone who talks about sports on the Radio for a living.
- greenyone


You saw Ted lasso? Need more people like roy Kent in broadcasting.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 4:48 PM ET
That was Fillipponi. He isn't an insider and is known around here for always being completely wrong with his predictions and opinions. I wouldn't take anything he says seriously.
- burgh4life87


That guy is as big a clown as Kingerski, maybe bigger.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jul 7 @ 4:58 PM ET
Notre Dame great Vinnie Hinostroza
- Victoro311


I saw that! Good low risk signing.
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