He was atrocious in Dallas his last season, -25 in goal differential.
- Rare_Jewel

This explains a lot about you

14 to 1 is a good value bet.

It’s crazy how fans of other teams are such experts on the leafs. Especially the Montreal ones who think they are getting their money’s worth out of Anderson.

Nylander, Samsonov

For

Schiefele, Hellebuyck

It’s crazy how fans of other teams are such experts on the leafs. Especially the Montreal ones who think they are getting their money’s worth out of Anderson.
- shack67

Anderson is overpaid by about 1M.

Love the player though.

Anderson is overpaid by about 1M.

Love the player though.
- Scabeh

Those 30 point guys are hard to come by.

From last blog:



He was overpaid for his production from day 1 and hasn't lived up to it since.

You are absolutely correct in this.



This is where I disagree. When Dubas got fired, after five years, only 1 series victory and the pending contract renewals of Matthews and Nylander, they are fully justified in asking him to waive the NMC.

Players have been asked to waive and pushed out many times before. The deal was given by a different GM, he was given ample opportunity and now it's time to move on. If his contract is detrimental to the team, he has to go and everybody involved would understand the circumstances.

Every Leafs fan knows his 11 AAV is killing the team cap. Nobody who wants the team to succeed would be upset if they moved him and it allowed the Leafs to keep Matthews, Nylander and allow the Leafs to bring in more help in other areas of the roster.



His contract costing the Leafs star players like Nylander because of the cap situation is more destructive than pushing him to waive his NMC. If trading Tavares means that future UFAs won't come here to be overpaid and under perform, then it's a win-win scenario.
- Rare_Jewel

No, JT’s contract is not killing the team. If Nylander leaves it’s because he’s insisting on $1M or more than the team thinks he’s worth with Matthews and Marner extensions being negotiated or upcoming.

Tavares may not be in the elite group in the league but he’s been a star player who’s been great for the Leafs.

Those 30 point guys are hard to come by.
- shack67

Those 30 point guys are hard to come by.
- shack67

Meh, around 20 goals per season while being, big, fast, strong and a hard hitter... I like him and his cap number isn't currently a problem.

Nylander, Samsonov

For

Schiefele, Hellebuyck
- Mr.President

Willie says no

No, JT’s contract is not killing the team. If Nylander leaves it’s because he’s insisting on $1M or more than the team thinks he’s worth with Matthews and Marner extensions being negotiated or upcoming.

Tavares may not be in the elite group in the league but he’s been a star player who’s been great for the Leafs.
- Canada Cup

I think this is a big part of it.

More so Marner...If you want to stay a Leaf you are getting at most what you are worth for your production value.

Tree isn't even thinking about free agent market value and it is important he doesn't let Nylander take it to him here.

This explains a lot about you
- Santo_44

Facts and logic?

I know, insane concept.

He is horrendous defensively at even strength.

Leafs are going to pay 4 million dollars for a player who cost 800K in Gustafsson.

Meh, around 20 goals per season while being, big, fast, strong and a hard hitter... I like him and his cap number isn't currently a problem.
- Scabeh

34 year old Anderson is going to be awesome

Facts and logic?

I know, insane concept.

He is horrendous defensively at even strength.

Leafs are going to pay 4 million dollars for a player who cost 800K in Gustafsson.
- Rare_Jewel

Ok

It’s crazy how fans of other teams are such experts on the leafs. Especially the Montreal ones who think they are getting their money’s worth out of Anderson.
- shack67

It's crazy how Leaf fans are such experts.

The lack of BeLeaf makes me shudder in my blue and white velour track suit.

He was atrocious in Dallas his last season, -25 in goal differential.
- Rare_Jewel

just unlucky with the line changes x25

34 year old Anderson is going to be awesome
- Santo_44

Good thing he's signed until he's 32 then.

No, JT’s contract is not killing the team. If Nylander leaves it’s because he’s insisting on $1M or more than the team thinks he’s worth with Matthews and Marner extensions being negotiated or upcoming.

Tavares may not be in the elite group in the league but he’s been a star player who’s been great for the Leafs.
- Canada Cup

Yes JT is absolutely killing the cap. If he's overpaid by 3 million, that's the money you could be using to satisfy your youngest star players.

I'd rather overpay Nylander, Mathews and Marner 1 million each than Tavares being overpaid by 3.

Not to mention the inability to balance out the rest of the roster because of the rest of the money he makes.

Meh, around 20 goals per season while being, big, fast, strong and a hard hitter... I like him and his cap number isn't currently a problem.
- Scabeh

If Dubas had signed him to that contract he would have been crucified in here. And you would be one of the ones making fun of it.
I go over to your thread sometimes I have to say it’s the biggest bunch of homers on HB.

If Dubas had signed him to that contract he would have been crucified in here. And you would be one of the ones making fun of it.
I go over to your thread sometimes I have to say it’s the biggest bunch of homers on HB.
- shack67

So you're lurking into the Habs thread without saying hello?

Rude.

I think when you're trading Nylander, it boils down to three major factors.

1) Big money potential. Either 10AAV or chance to put up big points.
2) The city he lives in be it weather and/or lifestyle.
3) The coach letting him play offensive hockey without playing defense.

Unless somebody has the official list of teams on his NTC, I'm going to guess it's the following.

Columbus, Montreal, Arizona, Philadelphia, Detroit, St. Louis, Ottawa, Buffalo, Winnipeg and Nashville (maybe or maybe not) could be Calgary instead.

Teams you absolutely don't want to trade him to because he'd bite you later.

Boston, Tampa Bay, Carolina, Pittsburgh and New Jersey.

Teams who you would hesitate to trade him to because he might bite you later.

New York Rangers, New York Islanders, Florida, Washington

Teams you absolutely have no problem trading him to.

Vegas, Colorado, Edmonton, Dallas, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Seattle and Vancouver.

Calgary might be on his NTC list. Or it might not be. It's really hard to tell.

Vegas, Colorado, Vancouver, Edmonton and Dallas can't afford him without moving out serious money.

Los Angeles and Minnesota would be a tight squeeze. Seattle could afford it.

I think he would accept a trade to Anaheim and San Jose because he's a California kinda of guy and big point potential (like Karlsson). Both teams suck so he might not want to play there but they could also overpay him to extend.

Chicago, I don't think would be on his list because they could give him a chance to put up big numbers with Bedard and also might be able to give him 10 AAV he's looking for when Foligno and Perry come off the books next year and open up 8 AAV.
- Rare_Jewel

On no other team outside of the leafs ls Nylander worth 10m.

It's crazy how Leaf fans are such experts.

The lack of BeLeaf makes me shudder in my blue and white velour track suit.
- Zezel

It’s hard to tell our fans from our haters.

Good thing he's signed until he's 32 then.
- Scabeh

He will be 33 just in time for playoffs in his final year so I like it that you already know Montreal is missing the playoffs that season

Ok
- Santo_44

You can laugh all you want, it's a verifiable fact.

Klingberg can not be trusted at 5on5 by every stat you want to look at, both traditional, advanced or just the eye test if you watch him play.

He's going to play like a 3rd pair D and only on the PP.

For 4 million dollars. When Gustafsson could have done that for 800K with basically the same results.

He was atrocious in Dallas his last season, -25 in goal differential.
- Rare_Jewel

weird since he didnt play for Dallas