If Dubas had signed him to that contract he would have been crucified in here. And you would be one of the ones making fun of it.
I go over to your thread sometimes I have to say it’s the biggest bunch of homers on HB.
- shack67

They also are having a blast watching a bottom dweller rebuild

You can laugh all you want, it's a verifiable fact.

Klingberg can not be trusted at 5on5 by every stat you want to look at, both traditional, advanced or just the eye test if you watch him play.

He's going to play like a 3rd pair D and only on the PP.

For 4 million dollars. When Gustafsson could have done that for 800K with basically the same results.
- Rare_Jewel

Thats fine.
We need klinberg to run the pp and score from the backend.
Thats it.

There are very few teams with the cap space to do a deal for Nylander.

Teams that could do a deal are looking at rebuild and acquiring picks and prospects.

Who are the teams with an interest in Nylander?
- spatso

and I think those teams are on his list.

his no trade list that is

You can laugh all you want, it's a verifiable fact.

Klingberg can not be trusted at 5on5 by every stat you want to look at, both traditional, advanced or just the eye test if you watch him play.

He's going to play like a 3rd pair D and only on the PP.

For 4 million dollars. When Gustafsson could have done that for 800K with basically the same results.
- Rare_Jewel

Tbh you spew a lot of crap.

Your perspective on hockey is so far out from mine that I won't even respond to this, we will simply not agree.

On no other team outside of the leafs ls Nylander worth 10m.
- Fakepartofme

I think the Rangers is a good fit for everybody. He would love living there, he could play with Ziba and they could afford to give him 10 AAV if they move Trocheck. The Rangers went after two RW at the deadline, Tarasenko and Kane. They have shown that's what they need and want.

So you're lurking into the Habs thread without saying hello?

Rude.
- Scabeh

If I have something positive to say I chime in. I’m a big Price fan and I like a couple of their current players. But to be honest I think it’s going to be a tough road ahead for the team. They drafted first overall in the wrong season.

Yeah, there are NO teams interested in a 40 goal scorer. And come trade deadline this season, nobody will be giving away prospects and 1st round picks for a 40 goal scorer…….never happens.
- Bullot

think of the cap man. all the complication that come with it.

He will be 33 just in time for playoffs in his final year so I like it that you already know Montreal is missing the playoffs that season
- Santo_44

Your insecurities about the Habs are impressive.

If I have something positive to say I chime in. I’m a big Price fan and I like a couple of their current players. But to be honest I think it’s going to be a tough road ahead for the team. They drafted first overall in the wrong season.
- shack67

Meh, sometimes you get a Slafkovsky or a Lafrenière and other years you get a Bedard.

Just move on with the solid player you drafted and hope for the best.

If you lurked around earlier today (I believe it was the previous blog), we've actually acknowledged that the road ahead in the Atlantic will be hard as the good teams will remain good for the next few years and the rest of the division is getting better at their own rhythm.

There won't be an easy path to the playoffs in the Atlantic in the next 4 years if you ask me.

Thats fine.
We need klinberg to run the pp and score from the backend.
Thats it.
- Fakepartofme

Already paying Rielly to do that. Rielly is already our useless defensively, offensive defenceman. Now we have to pay another 4 million to have another one?

Sorry, it's a bad signing, waste of cap space. I've seen this movie before, it was called Tyson Barrie.

Yes JT is absolutely killing the cap. If he's overpaid by 3 million, that's the money you could be using to satisfy your youngest star players.

I'd rather overpay Nylander, Mathews and Marner 1 million each than Tavares being overpaid by 3.

Not to mention the inability to balance out the rest of the roster because of the rest of the money he makes.
- Rare_Jewel

You’re out of your mind if you think Tavares is overpaid by $3M.

i dont think Klingberg is good defensively
but this was his 5v5 last year

GF-GA
Anaheim - 32-56
Minny 12-7

playoffs 4-1

You’re out of your mind if you think Tavares is overpaid by $3M.
- Canada Cup

I think you're out of your mind if you think he's not.

Easily overpaid by 3 million, maybe more given his likely decline with age.

He's the 7th highest paid player in the NHL and has been 24th in points over the past 5 years. 18th in goals. Even worse in playoff scoring ranking.

Monkeypunk already laid this out, he's overpaid for his production and has been since day 1. The only year he came close to earning his pay was when he scored 47 goals which was 3rd in the NHL which closely matched his cap hit.

I think you're out of your mind if you think he's not.

Easily overpaid by 3 million, maybe more.

He's the 7th highest paid player in the NHL and has been 24th in points over the past 5 years. 18th in goals. Even worse in playoff scoring ranking.

Monkeypuck already laid this out, he's overpaid for his production and has been since day 1. The only year he came close to earning his pay was when he scored 47 goals which was 3rd in the NHL which closely matched his cap hit.
- Rare_Jewel

thats higher than I expected

i dont think Klingberg is good defensively
but this was his 5v5 last year

GF-GA
Anaheim - 32-56
Minny 12-7

playoffs 4-1
- senstroll

I thought our biggest weakness in the playoffs was the lack of offense from the blue line. Hopefully he can change that.

thats higher than I expected
- senstroll

31st in points last season, 35th in goals.

47th in goals and 65th in points in the playoffs last season.

70th in goals, 98th in points over the past 5 playoff seasons.

As he ages, it will get worse, as it usually does for scorers.

I thought our biggest weakness in the playoffs was the lack of offense from the blue line. Hopefully he can change that.
- shack67

I agree.
I wanted Karlsson, but get get poor mans Karlsson instead

31st in points last season, 35th in goals.

As he ages, it will get worse, as it usually does for scorers.
- Rare_Jewel

JT is great, and seems like one of the best dudes in the league. Quality person.
its too bad fans have to debate the cap to the point we resent players like that

JT is great, and seems like one of the best dudes in the league. Quality person.
its too bad fans have to debate the cap to the point we resent players like that
- senstroll

I'm sure he is but nobody gives a (frank) about who wins the Lady Byng.

We're here for a Stanley Cup.

Or maybe some people don't want to win one.

Sometimes it seems like it.

Yes JT is absolutely killing the cap. If he's overpaid by 3 million, that's the money you could be using to satisfy your youngest star players.

I'd rather overpay Nylander, Mathews and Marner 1 million each than Tavares being overpaid by 3.

Not to mention the inability to balance out the rest of the roster because of the rest of the money he makes.
- Rare_Jewel

we see who's your whipping boy....
it is what is, this is the way

I'm sure he is but nobody gives a (frank) about who wins the Lady Byng.

We're here for a Stanley Cup.

Or maybe some people don't want to win one.

Sometimes it seems like it.
- Rare_Jewel

im not talking about the lady bing
just about his character and how teammates see him.

we see who's your whipping boy....
it is what is, this is the way
- dmnted

I wish there was no salary cap so the Leafs could sign Tavares 4 times.

I have no problem with him as a person or a player.

The problem is, there is a salary cap and we need that 11 AAV more than we need Tavares at this particular stage of the game.

It's just the harsh reality of the NHL and winning a Stanley Cup.

You can laugh all you want, it's a verifiable fact.

Klingberg can not be trusted at 5on5 by every stat you want to look at, both traditional, advanced or just the eye test if you watch him play.

He's going to play like a 3rd pair D and only on the PP.

For 4 million dollars. When Gustafsson could have done that for 800K with basically the same results.
- Rare_Jewel

you're assuming he'll take the same contract he had last year? I say, no.
He'd want 1.4~2M contract.

im not talking about the lady bing
just about his character and how teammates see him.
- senstroll

If all of those qualities translated to winning a Cup, I'd be all for it.

Unfortunately, they have not and that doesn't seem to be changing moving forward.

you're assuming he'll take the same contract he had last year? I say, no.
He'd want 1.4~2M contract.
- dmnted

But he did, 800K to the Rangers.

I'd still take Gustafsson at 1.4 over Klingberg at 4+.

Because that means you have the space to fit Schenn too.

And I'd much rather have Gustavsson and Schenn at 4 than Klingberg.