Ryan Wilson: Updating the slow burn that is the Erik Karlsson pursuit Updating the slow burn that is the Erik Karlsson pursuit

With the cap set to go up and his contract getting shorter, Sharks are in a much better position to wait a year to trade Karlsson, than Penguins are to wait a year to trade for him.

He won’t put up 100pts again, he could get hurt, and he will be another year older.

With the cap set to go up and his contract getting shorter, Sharks are in a much better position to wait a year to trade Karlsson, than Penguins are to wait a year to trade for him.
- Antilles

He won’t put up 100pts again, he could get hurt, and he will be another year older.

With the cap set to go up and his contract getting shorter, Sharks are in a much better position to wait a year to trade Karlsson, than Penguins are to wait a year to trade for him.
- Antilles

Too many reasons to explain why this is wrong.

I l like how the reportedly top teams among the possible Karlsson destinations are teams who already have a high salary top RHD PPQB and need a Karlsson the absolute least. Typical NHL GMs.

MattStrat - 3 retention spots is the max. It's why Arizona has to be very picky with who they retain on moving forward. The buyout of Ekman-Larsson took away 1 of their retention spots for the next 8 years.

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The Sharks should not reduce their ask. They can wait until next year when the cap goes up and more teams will be able to afford him at the $9-9.5mm range, which is the going rate for D Men. I don't know what Pitt has to offer in return anyways, other than draft picks and Pickering

The Sharks should not reduce their ask. They can wait until next year when the cap goes up and more teams will be able to afford him at the $9-9.5mm range, which is the going rate for D Men. I don't know what Pitt has to offer in return anyways, other than draft picks and Pickering
- hockeygm

Too many reasons to explain why this is wrong.

Karlsson came off of a career year at the age of 33. Only other option is trading him at the deadline with 40% retained for a 1st round pick to quickly get a deal done, but then SJ is hoping Karlsson agrees to another team.

I understand Karlsson is a Norris winning dman, but what happens next year when he’s injured for 40 games. Or SJ sucks so bad that he’s a -50 with 60-70 points instead of 100. Not to mention the NMC right now

Galchenyuk on waivers for contract termination. Signed on July 1st that has to be one juicy story for the yotes to do this so quickly.

With the cap set to go up and his contract getting shorter, Sharks are in a much better position to wait a year to trade Karlsson, than Penguins are to wait a year to trade for him.
- Antilles

Nah, you have to trade him now. He was unmovable for years, now you will likely never have his value higher. Karlsson never played more than 50 games/season with San Jose before this past year nor scored over 50 points (not taking into account Covid). Now, you have the Norris winner who played all 82 games and scored over 100 points.

In all probability, that isnt repeatable. So San Jose needs to get out of that contract, allow them to properly rebuild, and take the assets for a guy at his peak value. Waiting another year wont drive up the price, it could only lower it.

Nah, you have to trade him now. He was unmovable for years, now you will likely never have his value higher. Karlsson never played more than 50 games/season with San Jose before this past year nor scored over 50 points (not taking into account Covid). Now, you have the Norris winner who played all 82 games and scored over 100 points.

In all probability, that isnt repeatable. So San Jose needs to get out of that contract, allow them to properly rebuild, and take the assets for a guy at his peak value. Waiting another year wont drive up the price, it could only lower it.
- SuperHenderson13

No simpler than that... His value will only drop from here. If I were SJ, he wouldn't wear a jersey for me again. They keep talking on the radio here that the Pens will need to give up the farm in a deal. BS. Dude is injury prone in his 30's. It's a risky deal on our end and the deal should reflect that.

Nah, you have to trade him now. He was unmovable for years, now you will likely never have his value higher. Karlsson never played more than 50 games/season with San Jose before this past year nor scored over 50 points (not taking into account Covid). Now, you have the Norris winner who played all 82 games and scored over 100 points.

In all probability, that isnt repeatable. So San Jose needs to get out of that contract, allow them to properly rebuild, and take the assets for a guy at his peak value. Waiting another year wont drive up the price, it could only lower it.
- SuperHenderson13

If they think it's hard to make the money work in the offseason the trade deadline will be a franking mess. Move him now, eat as much cap as you can to maximize the return, and rebuild.

As far as Karlsson's scoring goes, he's also had seasons of 62, 66, 71, 74, 78, and 82 points. Granted they were all with Ottawa, but that's probably more damning of the Sharks than than an indictment of Karlsson's abilities since he's been there, or his 101 points this season being some kind of fluke. BY comparison Letang's never had a 70+ point season, or a Norris trophy. Just saying.

101 points on that team? That's one heck of a trick. For him to put up 100+ with a bad SJ team that was one of the lowest scoring in the league, says a lot. BTW: winning the Norris 3 times (on two different teams no less) is not a fluke. If it is, then I'll take the odds of him being a fluke one more time with the Penguins. This guy seems to have fluke oozing out his bunghole.

People thinking he might never be as good again is fair I guess. At 33, anything can happen. But that goes for any player, not just the older ones, and I don't see any justification in it based on his track record to this point that Karlsson is due to hit the wall next season. Just saying he's 33 isn't good enough. There has to be signs of him slipping, and to play a full 82 game season and score like that is anything but a sign.

The only real issue I have with him is his ability to stay healthy or not, and we know the Penguins are a magnet for players who wind up spending their time there on LTIR. Still surprised Kessel was able to get out of town with his Iron Man streak in tact. That's a miracle considering. FYI: By comparison (again): Letang has averaged 59 games a season, Karlsson 65.

I have a hard time in thinking the Penguins should realistically be able to get SJ to eat upwards of 40% of his salary, and at the same time send them a player in Petry, that of the two, is the one who probably needs salary retention included as part of any deal based on his...you know, actual recent performance, not necessarily because of his age. If that doesn't sound logical, then how about this? Petry is 35, Karlsson is only 33.

The Sharks were horrible with not a lot of talent and EK still got over 100 pts If he stays healthy there is no telling how many points he could muster up. I say go all in for one last chance at glory Sooner or later we all are going to die so why not go down swinging

He won’t put up 100pts again, he could get hurt, and he will be another year older.
- Brownsoldier

Ok what if Malkin decided to go back to mother Russia and Sid decides to retire What if are all over this world Be serious

The Sharks were horrible with not a lot of talent and EK still got over 100 pts If he stays healthy there is no telling how many points he could muster up. I say go all in for one last chance at glory Sooner or later we all are going to die so why not go down swinging
- broncohorvath

I agree with the latter part but if healthy he'll probably get between 80-100 points

The Sharks were horrible with not a lot of talent and EK still got over 100 pts If he stays healthy there is no telling how many points he could muster up. I say go all in for one last chance at glory Sooner or later we all are going to die so why not go down swinging
- broncohorvath

I agree with the latter part but if healthy he'll probably get between 80-100 points

I agree with the latter part but if healthy he'll probably get between 80-100 points
- 668710

I'd say between 60-80, but his impact on the team would be much more than just points. I really hope we get this done.

If they get EK, PP ticks up a few percentage points most likely (was terrible for most of last year), PK will be better with the new forward group, and bottom 6 is much better defensively, even if they’re still inept offensively. This team is a lot better than people are giving them credit for, not a top contender by any means, but could surprise a lot of people.

I'd say between 60-80, but his impact on the team would be much more than just points. I really hope we get this done.
- burgh4life87

Fully healthy I wouldn't go down to 60. But yeah for sure he would help fill the lack of scoring ability in our bottom 6. The bottom 6 improved, but not scoring wise. The easiest way to fix that is getting him. Letang and Ek eating about 55mins hahaha.

If they get EK, PP ticks up a few percentage points most likely (was terrible for most of last year), PK will be better with the new forward group, and bottom 6 is much better defensively, even if they’re still inept offensively. This team is a lot better than people are giving them credit for, not a top contender by any means, but could surprise a lot of people.
- abasin

Until the bottom six has 4 25 goal players all on 1 year contracts less than 2.5 a year no one on here will be happy.

Now that I reflect back on it, I’m pretty disappointed by Hillary duff’s lack of support for the team when comrie was on the team.