He hasn't even been remotely close to the worst on the team in terms of +/-. In a shut-down, defensive, pk role.

Thats saying something if you ask me.
- DirtyDan

Girgensons basically isnt good enough to make a team really good and not bad enough to make a team worse.

He's a longtime player , 4th line plugger. With good defensive underlying numbers.....

A safe signing, you know exactly what you're getting

It can still be fixed.

Sign ironman, 3x cup-winning, coney Island champion, true American patriot Phil Kessel to play with Peyton Krebs and Jordan Greenway
- Hank Balling

Does he play goalie now?

Quit ur crying 😭.

Does he play goalie now?
- hehateme

Where we're going we don't need goalies

Double down on offense and forsake the goalies. This is the way

Does anyone want us to sign Patty Kane for 1 year 5-6 Million?

If we are not going to add anymore solid D or a vet Goalie might as well sign Vet Firepower. Even if he is coming of an injury and 34.

Sort of like the Taylor Hall signing but now it is at the right time and we have a good team.

He hasn't even been remotely close to the worst on the team in terms of +/-. In a shut-down, defensive, pk role.

Thats saying something if you ask me.
- DirtyDan

How can he have the worst +/- when he plays 12 mins a night?

Where we're going we don't need goalies

Double down on offense and forsake the goalies. This is the way
- Hank Balling

This theory may work in the eggar season but not the playoffs.

Does anyone want us to sign Patty Kane for 1 year 5-6 Million?

If we are not going to add anymore solid D or a vet Goalie might as well sign Vet Firepower. Even if he is coming of an injury and 34.

Sort of like the Taylor Hall signing but now it is at the right time and we have a good team.
- hehateme

Problem is he isn't ready til December probably

This theory may work in the eggar season but not the playoffs.
- Jammerz04

Sign ironman, 3x cup-winning, coney Island champion, true American patriot Phil Kessel to play with Peyton Krebs and Jordan Greenway
- Hank Balling

Kessel was integral in Vegas’ Stanley cup 🤣. He’s not helping anyone.

Problem is he isn't ready til December probably
- Hank Balling

I would rather violate the NHL's CBA and sign girgensons to a 10 year deal, forfeit a draft pick, and then later sign him to an 8 year deal than give Kane a PTO.

To be clear, Id rather do neither, but just making the point.

I would rather violate the NHL's CBA and sign girgensons to a 10 year deal, forfeit a draft pick, and then later sign him to an 8 year deal than give Kane a PTO.

To be clear, Id rather do neither, but just making the point.
- Michael Ghofrani

I get it. The numbers are terrible but it would at least be entertaining

I get it. The numbers are terrible but it would at least be entertaining
- Hank Balling

Agree, 31 NHL teams would be very entertained. But I dont cheer for them or live in south buffalo so probably not fun for me.

Agree, 31 NHL teams would be very entertained. But I dont cheer for them or live in south buffalo so probably not fun for me.
- Michael Ghofrani

Or the Uber drivers

Quit ur crying 😭.
- Jammerz04

Look at how low quality the Sabres goal is lol:

https://youtu.be/Qj8wfBnHEh0

Or the Uber drivers
- Hank Balling

Skinner-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Kane
Greenway-Krebs-Kessel
Kulich-Mittelstadt-Olofsson
Okposo
Girgensons

Skinner-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Kane
Greenway-Krebs-Kessel
Kulich-Mittelstadt-Olofsson
Okposo
Girgensons


- Hank Balling

Pk88 would make olofsson even more expendable IMO

You dont healthy scratch the captains either.....

Would the GM coming out during the season saying the team gets bullied, be an indictment on leadership?

Would Cozens admitting they tightened up and played nervous in meaningful games be an indictment on leadership?

Would the leader having good defensive chart numbers, influence the rest of the team to buy into playing 200’ hockey?

Would leadership help bring in vets to build a competitive roster?(Okposo brought in E Johnson lol)

Those intangibles?

Or were you measuring intangibles like,

What music they play in the locker room?
- washedup20

Being that they aren't fighters themselves, I don't think so. Neither are in the place to defend, especially Okposo with the concussies.

Yes, absolutely.

Maybe, maybe not.

Given that those vets would likely take their spots, probably not.

I mean what they are doing in the lockerroom, film room, practice and generally behind closed doors. Immeasurable or unknown may be better descriptions than intangible.

Skinner-Tage-Tuch
Peterka-Cozens-Kane
Greenway-Krebs-Kessel
Kulich-Mittelstadt-Olofsson
Okposo
Girgensons


- Hank Balling

Roll (frank)ing 4 and win. Yeah baby! WOOOH!

Pk88 would make olofsson even more expendable IMO

You dont healthy scratch the captains either.....
- Boss34

Kessel is captain now

Being that they aren't fighters themselves, I don't think so. Neither are in the place to defend, especially Okposo with the concussies.

Yes, absolutely.

Maybe, maybe not.

Given that those vets would likely take their spots, probably not.

I mean what they are doing in the lockerroom, film room, practice and generally behind closed doors. Immeasurable or unknown may be better descriptions than intangible.
- QuinnFan

Touché

Holy batpoop mother of hell, the playoff drought is mentioned so often and so much criticism goes on (some of which is very legit) it makes me throw up. Has it really been 12 years??? Oh my Lord!!! When did this happen? Why was I not told??? Oh, right, I see it on here every. stinking. day.

And what is the whole victim mentality getting you? You say you can't voice your opinion for fear of some massive repercussion, like the fuzz are coming for you, or even worse, you'll be cancelled by a bunch of crybabies faster than you can say Bud Light. Thinking we should have playoff success expectations is not whining, but carrying on like you're being persecuted sure is. Nobody is attacking anyone for mentioning the drought but ffs, stop repeating yourself like a goddamn broken record, buck up like a friggin man and remember nobody has to agree with your (poopty) takes.
- LandlordTom

Loser mentality is firmly ensconced here.

Roll (frank)ing 4 and win. Yeah baby! WOOOH!
- QuinnFan

He hasn't even been remotely close to the worst on the team in terms of +/-. In a shut-down, defensive, pk role.

Thats saying something if you ask me.
- DirtyDan

our pk has sucked ever since he joined the NHL