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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 17 @ 3:12 PM ET
So you list NYI as a potential destination but don't comment on the E4 rumour of Pageau and Wahlstrom being involved. The Leafs like Pageau to help the PK. Seems bizarre to me. Dobson makes far more sense. But an E4 should be heeded.

Thoughts Mike?

- Cooleus

at the bold.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jul 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
Wahlstrom signed his QO


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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 17 @ 3:57 PM ET
Wahlstrom signed his QO


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- mr.sir

These kids say hold my Lego.

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Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jul 17 @ 4:06 PM ET
DrWikiBuzz is over that way.


Willy likely not going to the Isles there. Don't see the fit really and can't see the Isles stocking up the Leafs with picks, prospects, and their young dman. Then again it IS old man Lou and how senile he has gotten is a good question but...

Think we are starting the season with Willy and that will be that, but that 10-20 game into the season mark? Might find a team who thought they would make the playoffs needing a shake up and they pull the trigger perhaps.

As for Muzz, he is completely LTIR and ain't comin back there.

Still gotta get Murray either bought out or dumped off somewhere. Kinda wonder what is taking so long on that front.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 17 @ 4:17 PM ET
DrWikiBuzz is over that way.


Willy likely not going to the Isles there. Don't see the fit really and can't see the Isles stocking up the Leafs with picks, prospects, and their young dman. Then again it IS old man Lou and how senile he has gotten is a good question but...

Think we are starting the season with Willy and that will be that, but that 10-20 game into the season mark? Might find a team who thought they would make the playoffs needing a shake up and they pull the trigger perhaps.

As for Muzz, he is completely LTIR and ain't comin back there.

Still gotta get Murray either bought out or dumped off somewhere. Kinda wonder what is taking so long on that front.

- Roadrunner75


If you assume Gambrell is a cap casualty and heads to the Marlies and they carry 12F, 7D and 2G - then Samsonov would have to accept $2.35m if we buy out Murray. If we trade Murray, Samsonov would still have to accept $3m.

Outside of that window, they are entering into someone has to be traded territory.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 17 @ 4:25 PM ET
If you assume Gambrell is a cap casualty and heads to the Marlies and they carry 12F, 7D and 2G - then Samsonov would have to accept $2.35m if we buy out Murray. If we trade Murray, Samsonov would still have to accept $3m.

Outside of that window, they are entering into someone has to be traded territory.

- Monkeypunk

IIRC, they can't buy out Murray until they come to a deal with Samsonov (because they have elected to go to arbitration).
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jul 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
Fun fact: Nylander responsible for failure of Leafs to win Cup evert year since 1967
- Canada Cup


No Marner said it was not the core 4/5 and that the whole team needs to share responsibility and get better.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 17 @ 4:33 PM ET
IIRC, they can't buy out Murray until they come to a deal with Samsonov (because they have elected to go to arbitration).
- Atomic Wedgie


That's correct. A new buy out window will open for 48 hours 3 days after the arbitration award or the settlement are reached. So if Samsonov won't accept that $2.35m (and it seems and feels low given that he made $2m his last year in Washington and came here to prove himself, which he did), then they need to find a way to trade Murray before the start of the season.

My point is more that with the current 12F, 7D, 2G structure they'll likely need to go with, the maximum Samsonov can take if Murray is bought out is $2.35m - or $3m if they can trade Murray. Any more than that, and a trade will have to be made to create space.

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 17 @ 4:38 PM ET
Today @ 12:49 PM ET
To the Leafs: Willy Styles
To the Leafs: The Cup
To the haterz: a bag of Richards


……yeah to add to the other cups Willy Styles has brought us!

- Bullot

Lol.

We like losing in Toronto. Winning is for losers!
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jul 17 @ 4:43 PM ET
No Marner said it was not the core 4/5 and that the whole team needs to share responsibility and get better.
- jribout


He's not wrong. It's a team game.

Of course he's also sort of wrong because it was the the Core 4 that needed to be better. Against Florida at 5v5, Matthews had an assist, Tavares had an assist, Marner had a goal, and Nylander had a goal and an assist. That isn't good enough. The point made that at 50% of the cap, the Core-4 needs to produce isn't wrong at all - but the rest of the team also needs to be providing the defense to ensure the team can be successful, too. I mean Rielly had a goal a 3 assists; McCabe and Kampf had 2 assists, and Lafferty had a goal and an assist.

Against Florida at 5v5, Nylander and Matthews were -1, and JT and Marner were -2. Brodie and Acciari were -3 and McCabe was -5. Rielly was +3, Schenn, Kampf and Lafferty were +2.

So while it's a team game, it was the best of our team that let us down.
Flyers18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Uxbridge, ON
Joined: 01.15.2009

Jul 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
A HUUUUUUUGE way off topic here. Who do you all believe are to be guilty in the 2018 Canadian Junior sex scandal? I have the over under with Alex Formenton followed by Max Comtois and Gadjovich 🤷🏻‍♂️
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Jul 17 @ 4:46 PM ET
No Marner said it was not the core 4/5 and that the whole team needs to share responsibility and get better.
- jribout




Ya the kid says some dumb stuff eh. I know I’m not the only one who has noticed Marners affinity to voice how little the players care about what the media and FANS say. He’s right they don’t care but he needs to see how that alienated him from fans no? Not a huge fan of Odog (most I’m ok with but some not so much) but he even talked about it briefly when Johnson called in one episode of Overdrive.

Just not good thing to say. The best players need to be the best and they just weren’t. I give Marner a bit of a pass though on that cause I can tell he’s just really fed up with the pressure and scrutiny the team is under. Some players embrace and some get defensive. I feel like that’s how Willy is always so relaxed (not a good thing) I just think Willy does his own thing you know ha
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 17 @ 5:10 PM ET
Ya the kid says some dumb stuff eh. I know I’m not the only one who has noticed Marners affinity to voice how little the players care about what the media and FANS say. He’s right they don’t care but he needs to see how that alienated him from fans no? Not a huge fan of Odog (most I’m ok with but some not so much) but he even talked about it briefly when Johnson called in one episode of Overdrive.

Just not good thing to say. The best players need to be the best and they just weren’t. I give Marner a bit of a pass though on that cause I can tell he’s just really fed up with the pressure and scrutiny the team is under. Some players embrace and some get defensive. I feel like that’s how Willy is always so relaxed (not a good thing) I just think Willy does his own thing you know ha

- Big23Questions

“We know we all gotta be better.”
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Jul 17 @ 5:17 PM ET
We know we all gotta be better.”
- Canada Cup




…is all that he should’ve said.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 17 @ 5:19 PM ET
Athlete quotes are just grist for the content mill, they don't make no never no mind.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 17 @ 5:21 PM ET
Willie or no Willie, Leafs have to shed significant salary to become cap compliant. The clock is ticking. Somebody has to go.

Edit : just read and remembered that Lou handed out a seven year contract to Engvall.

- GalacticStone


Muzzin to LTIR and buy out Murray and it’s fixed.

So you get a bag of Richards too.

Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Jul 17 @ 5:23 PM ET
Athlete quotes are just grist for the content mill, they don't make no never no mind.
- Zezel




Also a very good point. It’s mistakes like his though that media coaches in house try to get them to avoid with their stick boring hockey cliches…long love the boring cliches in my opinion. Be boring and be a good player.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 17 @ 5:27 PM ET
Also a very good point. It’s mistakes like his though that media coaches in house try to get them to avoid with their stick boring hockey cliches…long love the boring cliches in my opinion. Be boring and be a good player.
- Big23Questions


I actually wouldn't mind if they did WWE-style promos.


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Mathews and Marner especially already dress the part.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Learn hockey, idiot., ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 17 @ 5:29 PM ET
Muzzin to LTIR and buy out Murray and it’s fixed.

So you get a bag of Richards too.


- .HOHO.


Big smegma caked ones
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jul 17 @ 5:36 PM ET
No Marner said it was not the core 4/5 and that the whole team needs to share responsibility and get better.
- jribout

Maybe the core 4/5 should share some of the $, then. Otherwise stfu earn your paycheck, oh, and how about WIN, and take the heat like a man ffs.

You ask for all the money, at least take the (frank)ing heat without crying like a female dog. This is exactly why this fanbase is not all in on Mitch, and this core.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Jul 17 @ 5:37 PM ET
I actually wouldn't mind if they did WWE-style promos.



- Zezel[/img]

Mathews and Marner especially already dress the part.




Haha that’s awesome man I like it! The Americans would love it!
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 17 @ 5:38 PM ET
“We know we all gotta be better.”
- Canada Cup

that starts with spending some time daily in a canoe
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

Jul 17 @ 5:57 PM ET
can we get an overlay by age and weight on this uncited graph?
- drexel



I am more in the middle of the vac/unvac argument but I will say that the hospital numbers cannot be 100% trusted..

The hospitals were getting a substantial amount of money per COVID case and in many cases the cause of death was COVID when in reality it was another cause.

Very close friend of the family lost somebody due to a heart attack(was not the first).. Was in the hospital for the heart attack and sadly passed and the cause of death was listed as COVID because they tested positive. They had no COVID symptoms..


Before everyone blasts me.. I do believe that the vaccines did something to help.. I do not believe that they were needed for all people.
oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jul 17 @ 6:30 PM ET
Ya the kid says some dumb stuff eh. I know I’m not the only one who has noticed Marners affinity to voice how little the players care about what the media and FANS say. He’s right they don’t care but he needs to see how that alienated him from fans no? Not a huge fan of Odog (most I’m ok with but some not so much) but he even talked about it briefly when Johnson called in one episode of Overdrive.

Just not good thing to say. The best players need to be the best and they just weren’t. I give Marner a bit of a pass though on that cause I can tell he’s just really fed up with the pressure and scrutiny the team is under. Some players embrace and some get defensive. I feel like that’s how Willy is always so relaxed (not a good thing) I just think Willy does his own thing you know ha

- Big23Questions


If he didn't understand when he signed his contract, how much pressure and scrutiny he was also signing on for, then he should be asking his agent why not.
female doging about it after each loss, is pretty damn immature in my opinion.
oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jul 17 @ 6:37 PM ET
I am more in the middle of the vac/unvac argument but I will say that the hospital numbers cannot be 100% trusted..

The hospitals were getting a substantial amount of money per COVID case and in many cases the cause of death was COVID when in reality it was another cause.

Very close friend of the family lost somebody due to a heart attack(was not the first).. Was in the hospital for the heart attack and sadly passed and the cause of death was listed as COVID because they tested positive. They had no COVID symptoms..


Before everyone blasts me.. I do believe that the vaccines did something to help.. I do not believe that they were needed for all people.

- Azuredoom


But...the whole point of vaccines is to slow the spread of whatever disease they target, by making it harder for the virus to find a host.
Unless you go whole hog to get as much of the population covered as possible, then you're just pissing in the wind.

As for all the conspiracy theories about that specific vaccine, why? If they wanted to microchip\sterilize\turn everyone brown, they would just do it to all the other vaccines EVERYBODY in Canada\USA\Europe, already is given before they can enter public school.
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