But...the whole point of vaccines is to slow the spread of whatever disease they target, by making it harder for the virus to find a host.
Unless you go whole hog to get as much of the population covered as possible, then you're just pissing in the wind.

As for all the conspiracy theories about that specific vaccine, why? If they wanted to microchip\sterilize\turn everyone brown, they would just do it to all the other vaccines EVERYBODY in Canada\USA\Europe, already is given before they can enter public school.
- oldstyle

We are already "microchipped" via our phones. Don't want to be spied on or tracked? Get rid of your phone and all of your internet-connected devices.

Sterilize? Yes please. Too many humans and too few resources.

Turn everyone brown? I'm Irish and can't tan to save my life, so I could use a little melanin. Again, sign me up.

Now, I don't want to be turned into a gay alligator. If that happens, count me out.

And just to keep the fun going from the other thread:


- Atomic Wedgie

Oh look, some cute graphs found online that have zero context. As a mathematician I will give you a little lesson on how stats can be misused to fool people. First of all, you need to ask where this data came from? What country, what area of said country, which hospital(s)? Also ask, how did they determine vaccinated vs non-vaccinated? Most health units did not count anyone vaccinated if they received the vax within 2-4 weeks. So when the health units raided old age homes and vaccinated everyone, if any got covid in the next 2-4 weeks, that was recorded as non-vaccinated. Hmmm... I wonder if the jab had any influence on them getting the virus? hmmm... but we will record all these cases as non-vaccinated.

Also, look at the label on the vertical axis. The numbers are per 1 million persons. So the numbers themselves are meaningless as there could have only been 5 people in hospital "with" Covid. But they use a multiplier to make it parts per 1 million. Thus exaggerating the total actual numbers. And again, they counted those in hospital regardless if it was Covid that brought them into the hospital. You broke your arm, they will test you at the door. Bam, you now count as having Covid and in the hospital. Also look at the last graph, the scale is completely different from the first two graphs to exaggerate the differences. This is called skewing the graph.

Anyhow, I am done trying to convince the unconvincible. My suggestion is to start using your own observations(it is called critical thinking). I don't know a single non-vaccinated person that had to go to the hospital because of Covid. I did know some already vaccinated people though and one who ended up dying unfortunately.

The jabs were a failure. And many people got fooled into taking them. I have friends now who regret taking them. I do not know a single person who regrets not getting them. I made the right choice. I also don't have to worry about any future side effects. I don't have heart issues that so many vaccinated people have experienced.

Bottom line is, make your choice and mind your own damn business what other peoples choice was. There is not a single person on this planet that can argue I made the wrong choice.

Can the refs on here just start banning the clowns that keep bringing up this topic please?!!!

He's not wrong. It's a team game.

Of course he's also sort of wrong because it was the the Core 4 that needed to be better. Against Florida at 5v5, Matthews had an assist, Tavares had an assist, Marner had a goal, and Nylander had a goal and an assist. That isn't good enough. The point made that at 50% of the cap, the Core-4 needs to produce isn't wrong at all - but the rest of the team also needs to be providing the defense to ensure the team can be successful, too. I mean Rielly had a goal a 3 assists; McCabe and Kampf had 2 assists, and Lafferty had a goal and an assist.

Against Florida at 5v5, Nylander and Matthews were -1, and JT and Marner were -2. Brodie and Acciari were -3 and McCabe was -5. Rielly was +3, Schenn, Kampf and Lafferty were +2.

So while it's a team game, it was the best of our team that let us down.
- Monkeypunk

Yeah so given that fact Mitch et al need to take more responsibility

But...the whole point of vaccines is to slow the spread of whatever disease they target, by making it harder for the virus to find a host.
Unless you go whole hog to get as much of the population covered as possible, then you're just pissing in the wind.

As for all the conspiracy theories about that specific vaccine, why? If they wanted to microchip\sterilize\turn everyone brown, they would just do it to all the other vaccines EVERYBODY in Canada\USA\Europe, already is given before they can enter public school.
- oldstyle

Antivax conspiracies started with a single debunked paper that's since been exposed as a fraud, and the entire antivax panic is wholly devoid of merit, but it's juicier for people to feel like they see through some secret conspiracy, rather than the actual real story that science provided a solution to a problem and it worked as it often does. There's no special drama to that, it just saved lives with hard work.

The nonsense conspiracies are also perpetuated by con men influencers because conspiracies drive clicks, and genuinely batpoop crazy degenerates like RFK JR.

Boooo

[quote=rSole]

Not worth seeing your post again. Had you perishied, you would be a strong candidate for a Darwin award.

A HUUUUUUUGE way off topic here. Who do you all believe are to be guilty in the 2018 Canadian Junior sex scandal? I have the over under with Alex Formenton followed by Max Comtois and Gadjovich 🤷🏻‍♂️
- Flyers18

Yea, Hart seems to be very quiet, grounded, and innocent (looking).

Maybe the core 4/5 should share some of the $, then. Otherwise stfu earn your paycheck, oh, and how about WIN, and take the heat like a man ffs.

You ask for all the money, at least take the (frank)ing heat without crying like a female dog. This is exactly why this fanbase is not all in on Mitch, and this core.
- fifty__missions

Bam exactly. You want to bleed every stinking nickel out of your childhood team before you win a dam thing then you better be able to take the heat!

Boooo
- Big23Questions

ya, sorry. I usually don't respond to that stuff anymore, but when it's an argument devoid of logic, I get riled up.

Mind you, being a long time Leaf fan, is also devoid of logic, so who the hell am I to say?

And just to keep the fun going from the other thread:


- Atomic Wedgie

Similar results from all over the world.

It is not difficult to understand, yet some (frank)ing idiots here will simply ignore it.

Ross Colton
4 x 4m

Seems high

ya, sorry. I usually don't respond to that stuff anymore, but when it's an argument devoid of logic, I get riled up.

Mind you, being a long time Leaf fan, is also devoid of logic, so who the hell am I to say?

- oldstyle

Ha no man I’m just kidding around - political and other non hockey stuff is insufferable but what are you gonna do at this point. I can choose to just not read but still sucks to deal with all the same

But...the whole point of vaccines is to slow the spread of whatever disease they target, by making it harder for the virus to find a host.
Unless you go whole hog to get as much of the population covered as possible, then you're just pissing in the wind.

As for all the conspiracy theories about that specific vaccine, why? If they wanted to microchip\sterilize\turn everyone brown, they would just do it to all the other vaccines EVERYBODY in Canada\USA\Europe, already is given before they can enter public school.
- oldstyle

I never mentioned anything about conspiracy theories but you can jump there to try to discredit what I said.. I clearly said it was a benefit for some people.. My issue was the complete overreaction and total lockdown of society that was not needed..There were countries that did not lockdown and focused on protecting the vulnerable sectors of their population and they had infection rates almost the same as countries that exhibit the lockdown.

I have no problem with people that want to get vaccinated. I myself had 2 shots..My parents have had every booster that they can take to this point.

I also have no problem with people that do not want to get vaccinated for whatever their reason.

I have my own reservations about how a vaccine was developed and mass produced 3-5x faster than any vaccine.

Back to Hockey

Willie for Konecny + Cam York + 3rd
Willie(Extended) for Konecny + Cam York + Unprotected 1st

Back to Hockey

Willie for Konecny + Cam York + 3rd
Willie(Extended) for Konecny + Cam York + Unprotected 1st
- Azuredoom

I have no clue how or who else - but I think it would be huge to add Konecny (via Willy) for the Buds. Just the sheer annoyance that forward would be out there in playoffs when things so quiet and maybe bounces or pucks aren’t going Leafs way:
Konecny
Domi
Bertuzzi
Lafferty
Reaves
Jarnkrok (just relentless work ethic)

On the back end I agree a bit too on soft side but McCabe Gio throw hits and Rielly isn’t necessarily soft but would still like to see a bigger heavier body to add at deadline

Bryzgalov is still being paid by the Flyers.
he's 4 years left on his buyout.

Back to Hockey

Willie for Konecny + Cam York + 3rd
Willie(Extended) for Konecny + Cam York + Unprotected 1st
- Azuredoom

I'd do this trade, but will Philly really extend Styles for $70 over 7 years?
Would he also agree to go to Philly?

but yeah I'd do it, the trade that is.

I'd do this trade, but will Philly really extend Styles for $70 over 7 years?
Would he also agree to go to Philly?

but yeah I'd do it, the trade that is.
- dmnted

My assumption(maybe wrong) is that any team that trades for him knows what he wants and is ok with that price

Back to Hockey

Willie for Konecny + Cam York + 3rd
Willie(Extended) for Konecny + Cam York + Unprotected 1st
- Azuredoom

Nylander makes zero sense for the Flyers no matter the package. A long term, high cap player only hurts them right now. I doubt Nylander even puts up the numbers he had feeding off the others on the Leafs. Just not worth it to get a 65 point player for 8m+.

Nylander makes zero sense for the Flyers no matter the package. A long term, high cap player only hurts them right now. I doubt Nylander even puts up the numbers he had feeding off the others on the Leafs. Just not worth it to get a 65 point player for 8m+.
- Glak18

agreed, I don't see a fit there.

Nylander makes zero sense for the Flyers no matter the package. A long term, high cap player only hurts them right now. I doubt Nylander even puts up the numbers he had feeding off the others on the Leafs. Just not worth it to get a 65 point player for 8m+.
- Glak18

Agree not a fit there. Getting a 90 -100 point RW entering the prime of his career does not make sense for a rebuilding team that is paying $5.2M for garbage like Kevin Hayes and DeAngelo to not play for them.

Oh look, some cute graphs found online that have zero context. As a mathematician I will give you a little lesson on how stats can be misused to fool people. First of all, you need to ask where this data came from? What country, what area of said country, which hospital(s)? Also ask, how did they determine vaccinated vs non-vaccinated? Most health units did not count anyone vaccinated if they received the vax within 2-4 weeks. So when the health units raided old age homes and vaccinated everyone, if any got covid in the next 2-4 weeks, that was recorded as non-vaccinated. Hmmm... I wonder if the jab had any influence on them getting the virus? hmmm... but we will record all these cases as non-vaccinated.

Also, look at the label on the vertical axis. The numbers are per 1 million persons. So the numbers themselves are meaningless as there could have only been 5 people in hospital "with" Covid. But they use a multiplier to make it parts per 1 million. Thus exaggerating the total actual numbers. And again, they counted those in hospital regardless if it was Covid that brought them into the hospital. You broke your arm, they will test you at the door. Bam, you now count as having Covid and in the hospital. Also look at the last graph, the scale is completely different from the first two graphs to exaggerate the differences. This is called skewing the graph.

Anyhow, I am done trying to convince the unconvincible. My suggestion is to start using your own observations(it is called critical thinking). I don't know a single non-vaccinated person that had to go to the hospital because of Covid. I did know some already vaccinated people though and one who ended up dying unfortunately.

The jabs were a failure. And many people got fooled into taking them. I have friends now who regret taking them. I do not know a single person who regrets not getting them. I made the right choice. I also don't have to worry about any future side effects. I don't have heart issues that so many vaccinated people have experienced.

Bottom line is, make your choice and mind your own damn business what other peoples choice was. There is not a single person on this planet that can argue I made the wrong choice.

Can the refs on here just start banning the clowns that keep bringing up this topic please?!!!
- rSole

"As a mathematician"

Cool. Stay in your lane then and I won't try to tell you about math.

Ross Colton
4 x 4m

Seems high
- mr.sir

It is a high for a bottom six guy. I guess they hope he makes the jump to top six. Tampa couldn't afford that gamble.

Ross Colton
4 x 4m

Seems high
- mr.sir

Terrible. 4mil for a decent 3rd liner.

It is a high for a bottom six guy. I guess they hope he makes the jump to top six. Tampa couldn't afford that gamble.
- GalacticStone

Maybe they see something different, but I've never seen anything from him to warrant 4mil.