Ryan Wilson: The latest on Erik Karlsson The latest on Erik Karlsson

First, if thats still a thing

First, if thats still a thing
- Reverend Killtaker

It is. It is!

Still waiting to see who we shed to make an EK deal happen. Even if it doesn't go through I hope someone can leak an accurate list of how we'd make space by jettisoning players.

It is. It is!

Still waiting to see who we shed to make an EK deal happen. Even if it doesn't go through I hope someone can leak an accurate list of how we'd make space by jettisoning players.
- coohill

Primarily one of Granlund/Petry going out in the deal.

Then probably another separate trade.

And then the buyout possibility on Granlund if need be.

Primarily one of Granlund/Petry going out in the deal.

Then probably another separate trade.

And then the buyout possibility on Granlund if need be.
- Feds91Stammer

A bit of a deadline on a Granlund buyout. I wonder if that will change what the Pens can do about Karlsson if nothing is resolved by the end of that second buyout window

Primarily one of Granlund/Petry going out in the deal.

Then probably another separate trade.

And then the buyout possibility on Granlund if need be.
- Feds91Stammer

Right but like, why the (frank) would SJ want Granlund? You pretty well have to buy him out. They'll have the same problem with him that PIT does

A bit of a deadline on a Granlund buyout. I wonder if that will change what the Pens can about Karlsson if nothing is resolved by the end of that second buyout window
- Tojo.

DOC hearing date is 8/4. If no EK trade happens by then I would say it probably isn’t happening.

Right but like, why the (frank) would SJ want Granlund? You pretty well have to buy him out. They'll have the same problem with him that PIT does
- BINGO!

Because Grier isn’t a good GM?

Because Grier isn’t a good GM?
- Feds91Stammer

Fair point. It's why I don't think there's any hope of the Canes actually getting Karlsson. He's still bitter about getting hosed on Burns.

Wouldn't be surprised if that's why the Meier thing went the way it did with most pundits agreeing CAR gave them a better offer than NJD did.

DOC hearing date is 8/4. If no EK trade happens by then I would say it probably isn’t happening.
- Feds91Stammer

I mean EK is getting traded regardless. Just seems like a big game of chicken.

Fair point. It's why I don't think there's any hope of the Canes actually getting Karlsson. He's still bitter about getting hosed on Burns.

Wouldn't be surprised if that's why the Meier thing went the way it did with most pundits agreeing CAR gave them a better offer than NJD did.
- BINGO!

It’s actually impressive how many bad trades he’s made in such a short time.

Right but like, why the (frank) would SJ want Granlund? You pretty well have to buy him out. They'll have the same problem with him that PIT does
- BINGO!

Or 3 more years of petry? Petry + whatever they retain from ek is basically ek. All for a first and prospect from Pitt?

Better off flipping couture or hertl

Or 3 more years of petry? Petry + whatever they retain from ek is basically ek. All for a first and prospect from Pitt?

Better off flipping couture or hertl
- sammy87

Why you always clowning yourself?

Petry's family lives in Michigan and he has a 15-team no-trade clause. Safe bet that he has all Canadian teams and all US teams far from MI on that list, including SJ.

Or 3 more years of petry? Petry + whatever they retain from ek is basically ek. All for a first and prospect from Pitt?

Better off flipping couture or hertl
- sammy87

Yes, that's the point. If they keep him they get nothing. But if they trade him they get assets, even if they don't save money. That's what a rebuilding team does.

Fair point. It's why I don't think there's any hope of the Canes actually getting Karlsson. He's still bitter about getting hosed on Burns.

Wouldn't be surprised if that's why the Meier thing went the way it did with most pundits agreeing CAR gave them a better offer than NJD did.
- BINGO!

What happened between him and Burns?

Petry's family lives in Michigan and he has a 15-team no-trade clause. Safe bet that he has all Canadian teams and all US teams far from MI on that list, including SJ.
- MickV

Things change when teams come to you and ask you to waive. Some players take it as an insult like “oh they don’t want me” aLa Hornqvist.

Or 3 more years of petry? Petry + whatever they retain from ek is basically ek. All for a first and prospect from Pitt?

Better off flipping couture or hertl
- sammy87

Oof. You just don’t know when to stop with the bad takes.

Things change when teams come to you and ask you to waive. Some players take it as an insult like “oh they don’t want me” aLa Hornqvist.
- j.boyd919

I could be wrong but I think his wife and kids still live in MI. So unless they're willing to move, I doubt he waives to go to SJ regardless of how he feels about being wanted or not.

What happened between him and Burns?
- j.boyd919

Karlsson and Burns?

Nothing. They were fine. SJ just kept trying to play them together and it didn't work.

Would SJ take a 1st, Granlund, Petry and smith / POJ and zero retention? Then give a third team picks to retain 30%.

Leaves a retention spot for when they inevitably trade Couture or Vlasic.

I could be wrong but I think his wife and kids still live in MI. So unless they're willing to move, I doubt he waives to go to SJ regardless of how he feels about being wanted or not.
- MickV

If there wasn’t a potential Petry move on the table I don’t think there would be any EK talk.

Would SJ take a 1st, Granlund, Petry and smith / POJ and zero retention? Then give a third team picks to retain 30%.

Leaves a retention spot for when they inevitably trade Couture or Vlasic.
- abasin

SJ still has 2 open retention slots. No reason to not retain on EK to worsen the return.

If there wasn’t a potential Petry move on the table I don’t think there would be any EK talk.
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah, they'd definitely have to move him, I just doubt he'd waive to go to SJ. Could see him going to another team not in Canada or out west.

Glad to see Letang would be stoked (allegedly) to get ek. He would remain #1D but pp QB would go to ek.