Yes and no. Making a city aesthetically pleasing is crucial to making it an attractive place to live and do business, but it becomes meaningless if there's no substance behind it. At some point there needs to be one or more big businesses that put a sizable dent in the job market, and Buffalo still doesn't have that. You can't sustain an economy on bars and restaurants. The city is putting almost all its chips in the startup basket, which isn't entirely a bad thing, but one of them has to explode in order for this to really work. The problem is that these startups are either failing, as many of them do, or are getting bought out by bigger companies outside of the city, that don't have the same commitment to growing it.
- buffalofan19

money down a deep dark hole with minimal return on investment

what you're talking about is happening on a whole sale level and part of that is making Buffalo a desirable place to be. M & T for example is investing a lot of money downtown. Of course I agree more corporations need to move in, but Buffalo is already trending in the right direction and you can visibly see it.

Using the waterfront for business as well as recreation is that gold mine.
- TheSabresTaco

M&T is weird. They're investing in the tech hub here, which is great, but they're still moving certain operations to other cities like Baltimore. And the "problem" with reviving the Waterfront is that it's not doing anything revolutionary. They're simply finally doing what cities like Pittsburgh, for example, figured out forty years ago. Yes, the waterfront looks nice, but there's nothing about it that stands out compared to others, at least not yet.

Yes and no. Making a city aesthetically pleasing is crucial to making it an attractive place to live and do business, but it becomes meaningless if there's no substance behind it. At some point there needs to be one or more big businesses that put a sizable dent in the job market, and Buffalo still doesn't have that. You can't sustain an economy on bars and restaurants. The city is putting almost all its chips in the startup basket, which isn't entirely a bad thing, but one of them has to explode in order for this to really work. The problem is that these startups are either failing, as many of them do, or are getting bought out by bigger companies outside of the city, that don't have the same commitment to growing it.
- buffalofan19

Or moving out of WNY because the cost of a startup is insane here.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/4468443

A reasonable package for Helleybuck from a Jets fan.

Thought it was interesting.

We all know nothing is going to happen in goal though.

Or moving out of WNY because the cost of a startup is insane here.
- ImThatGuy

startup is insane everywhere


look at the cost of anything now vs 2 years ago

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4468443

A reasonable package for Helleybuck from a Jets fan.

Thought it was interesting.

We all know nothing is going to happen in goal though.
- Stripes77

that's actually the closest thing I have seen for a market value trade on him

M&T is weird. .
- buffalofan19

all brick and mortar banks suck

that's actually the closest thing I have seen for a market value trade on him
- homiedclown

I agree, no high end prospect, a solid up and coming center in Krebs, UPL and not first round pick

all brick and mortar banks suck
- homiedclown

Fair enough, but they're still one of the few companies with enough capital to make a meaningful dent in this city's economy.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4468443

A reasonable package for Helleybuck from a Jets fan.

Thought it was interesting.

We all know nothing is going to happen in goal though.
- Stripes77

I've been told it will be addressed on Good Day™️

That's crazy. There's something in these athletes' diets, supplements, or medications that's making this happen on a more frequent than normal basis to otherwise healthy people. It's becoming plain as day.
- buffalofan19

Steroids and testosterone sups let’s not act like it’s a secret

Plus that vaccine amirite

I've been told it will be addressed on Good Day™️
- Hank Balling

Can we 716 to make a shirt when it happens?

lafontaine wanted to extend ryan miller instead of going into tank mode
- homiedclown

Maybe in hindsight that was the right move

trying to revitalize downtown is a waste of money
- homiedclown

It’s not even close to being revitalized it’s insane anyone thinks it is lol

startup is insane everywhere


look at the cost of anything now vs 2 years ago
- homiedclown

And that's where Buffalo's problem is always going to lie. While the costs might be as high as everywhere else, it needs to offer something that other cities don't, which is sorely lacking. The waterfront development, while sorely needed, makes it on par with others at best. There's nothing there right now that makes it stand out from other cities. The entire state of New Jersey has the same issue, but it also has a proximity to New York City, which still offers far more potential than Buffalo does, even considering the mess Covid caused.

Without any form of a mass transit system to downtown from all suburbs, any talk of revitalizing is lost.

It’s not even close to being revitalized it’s insane anyone thinks it is lol
- Nightmare Fuel

Compared to what it was before they bought the Sports teams. Night and Day.

They've done significant work over the 11-12 years. Easier to see when you don't live there.

Steroids and testosterone sups let’s not act like it’s a secret

Plus that vaccine amirite
- Nightmare Fuel

And this is where I wanted to tread carefully. The number of people that want to blame the Shot That Must Not Be Named for these things and the number of people that want to dismiss it outright are probably close to the same. The reality is the answer is somewhere in the middle, or at least that it might not play nicely with some other substances these athletes put in their bodies.

Without any form of a mass transit system to downtown from all suburbs, any talk of revitalizing is lost.
- ImThatGuy

This guy gets it

Can we 716 to make a shirt when it happens?
- Stripes77

Absolutely

And this is where I wanted to tread carefully. The number of people that want to blame the Shot That Must Not Be Named for these things and the number of people that want to dismiss it outright are probably close to the same. The reality is the answer is somewhere in the middle, or at least that it might not play nicely with some other substances these athletes put in their bodies.
- buffalofan19

Supplements + the shot = no good

DeBrusk and Swayman for UPL and Mittelstadt

Plug and play center for them
- Hank Balling

I believe a team is prohibited from trading a player for a year after abritration ruling?

And that's where Buffalo's problem is always going to lie. While the costs might be as high as everywhere else, it needs to offer something that other cities don't, which is sorely lacking. The waterfront development, while sorely needed, makes it on par with others at best. There's nothing there right now that makes it stand out from other cities. The entire state of New Jersey has the same issue, but it also has a proximity to New York City, which still offers far more potential than Buffalo does, even considering the mess Covid caused.
- buffalofan19

New York topped the list of heaviest tax burden on individual.

Also 2nd worst state for any startup.

Buffalo being Buffalo it falls victim and is guilty by association with NYC costs

Compared to what it was before they bought the Sports teams. Night and Day.

They've done significant work over the 11-12 years. Easier to see when you don't live there.
- DirtyDan

Allentown is a bunch of lame, tatted up drunks and Elmwood is a bunch of snobs. The West side is still a dump, the East side, too, and downtown is just as much of a ghost town as ever.

Buffalo is a large carcass of a city with too much empty space and not enough of anything to fill the gaps and bring it together and it is still extremely segregated.

It’s revitalization is an illusion.

And this is where I wanted to tread carefully. The number of people that want to blame the Shot That Must Not Be Named for these things and the number of people that want to dismiss it outright are probably close to the same. The reality is the answer is somewhere in the middle, or at least that it might not play nicely with some other substances these athletes put in their bodies.
- buffalofan19

Yeah, def their diet and supps.. totally not that thing they made you take. Must be a coincidence.