when you have the worst +/- for any forward in the NHL over the last 3 years


it's so much more than a small dip
- homiedclown

1/10 compete when he's playing well. A 0/10 when he's not.

Just a small dip.

1/10 compete when he's playing well. A 0/10 when he's not.

Just a small dip.
- Lunaion

🤏

And I don't think Buffalo would be interested in extending him at $8+ million/year
- turbo044

same.

I love the rental idea. I don't like the ext idea. Sabres have more than enough future pieces and can easily use UPL to improve any position.

Finding an annual backup for Levi will become easier over time.

we got a first and a third and stewart
, carrier and halak

flipped halak for neuvirth
- homiedclown

Miller is one of the best comps and he was 10 years ago.

I can't see Hellebuyck getting much more than that.

Most teams know he's a rental and aren't willing to ante up to the ask.. my guess. Guess WPG would rather ride him to the TDL

same.

I love the rental idea. .
- TheSabresTaco

if adams got a big time 22 minute rd to play with dahlin and a fixture on the second line to play with cozens and casey, maybe


I do not see this team needing a rental given the blah moves this summer

team is trying to get 7th or 8th in the east, not win a cup this season

What about Keller Vejmelka package ?
- Buff36

does that classify as "stupid poop"?

Miller is one of the best comps and he was 10 years ago.

I can't see Hellebuyck getting much more than that.

Most teams know he's a rental and aren't willing to ante up to the ask.. my guess. Guess WPG would rather ride him to the TDL
- TheSabresTaco

I know he's been mostly healthy throughout his career but there is a risk there

if adams got a big time 22 minute rd to play with dahlin and a fixture on the second line to play with cozens and casey, maybe


I do not see this team needing a rental given the blah moves this summer

team is trying to get 7th or 8th in the east, not win a cup this season
- homiedclown

for forward i think they're allowing their prospects to fight for the quinn and olofsson roles.

for defense, idk wtf they're thinking. they're taking a quantity approach, and at the very least, pushing out their worst guys. i mean, fine.

having faith in a rookie (phenom?) and a bum is not logical in goal.

- TheSabresTaco

None of us regret not taking it.

https://twitter.com/Sweat...tatus/1683613093442486272

I know he's been mostly healthy throughout his career but there is a risk there
- Hank Balling

what's the bigger risk? trading him for peanuts before the season starts, or trying to sign him in-season and trading him for apples at the tdl/or re-signing him? Or like you mentioned, a double or nothing approach.

-In his conversation with the coaches, Olofsson says they told him he needs to be more consistent, and he needs to get his compete level up a little bit.

"Sometimes it’s really good, and sometimes I have a small dip."

That says it all. His compete level is never good and he thinks it's just a small dip when he's playing poorly.
- Lunaion

His compete level is average when it's 'good'. He is, and will always be, awful in transition, forechecking and backchecking.

His entire game is 'get to the slot'. That's it. Be more useful, maybe you'll play.

what's the bigger risk? trading him for peanuts before the season starts, or trying to sign him in-season and trading him for apples at the tdl/or re-signing him? Or like you mentioned, a double or nothing approach.
- TheSabresTaco

seems like a trade to the kings or oilers makes sense

His compete level is average when it's 'good'. He is, and will always be, awful in transition, forechecking and backchecking.

His entire game is 'get to the slot'. That's it. Be more useful, maybe you'll play.
- TheSabresTaco

nothing to see

season ticket holder told us 22 times that he is ready to take quinn's spot and is getting better 5 on 5

His compete level is average when it's 'good'. He is, and will always be, awful in transition, forechecking and backchecking.

His entire game is 'get to the slot'. That's it. Be more useful, maybe you'll play.

- TheSabresTaco

I don't think it ever comes close to average.

what's the bigger risk? trading him for peanuts before the season starts, or trying to sign him in-season and trading him for apples at the tdl/or re-signing him? Or like you mentioned, a double or nothing approach.
- TheSabresTaco

It's hard to know without knowing what the peanut offers are right now versus the apple offers later

Side note - Halak and Elliott both had terrific numbers the year the Blues traded for Miller.

.922 and .917

nothing to see

season ticket holder told us 22 times that he is ready to take quinn's spot and is getting better 5 on 5
- homiedclown

i think he actually got worse

seems like a trade to the kings or oilers makes sense
- homiedclown

i kinda get it, there are some here who are furious at the notion, which is fine. Do the Sabres need Hellebuyck to make the playoffs? I don't know, but I'm sure it doesn't hurt.

Do they need Hellebuyck and Pesce? Do they also need Tatar? Do the 3 of them get the Sabres over the line? Or is what is here right now get them over the line as is?

I'm pro-acquisition to be clear. But I also wonder if what they have is enough.

does that classify as "stupid poop"?
- TheSabresTaco

What does this mean ? I guess if I am just throwing stuff out there.

Well the Sabres could make a very enticing package and Arizona won't be doing much for a few years anyway. We could help there future while we help ourselves for the now and down the road.
- Buff36

Makes sense, unfortunately EK brought it up, so it's dead

if adams got a big time 22 minute rd to play with dahlin and a fixture on the second line to play with cozens and casey, maybe


I do not see this team needing a rental given the blah moves this summer

team is trying to get 7th or 8th in the east, not win a cup this season
- homiedclown

You can have this all with a trade with CGY: Markstom, Hanifin (or, if you prefer RHD, Tanev, Backlund). a lot of NMC's to circumvent

What does this mean ? I guess if I am just throwing stuff out there.
- Buff36

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https://www.gophnx.com/20...tion-pick-rich-nhl-draft/

It's hard to know without knowing what the peanut offers are right now versus the apple offers later

Side note - Halak and Elliott both had terrific numbers the year the Blues traded for Miller.

.922 and .917
- Hank Balling

My new saying is, "Save percentage is a product of environment".

Makes sense, unfortunately EK brought it up, so it's dead
- turbo044

I saw the Keller thing. Weird Buffalo and Arizona have talked big trades since ROR was traded to St. Louis. But never have pulled the trigger on any.

My new saying is, "Save percentage is a product of environment".


- QuinnFan

Fwiw I agree with you to a pretty large extent

Fwiw I agree with you to a pretty large extent
- Hank Balling

And we appreciate that. Sorry, wasn't trying to pick on you about it. Just thought it was chuckle worthy.