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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 3:18 PM ET
https://thehockeywriters.com/sabres-can-end-playoff-drought-2023-24/
- Buff36

comments like these from sabres fans make us look dumb


"THIS IS OUR YEAR"
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 25 @ 3:19 PM ET
Out on bail, fresh outta jail, California dreamin

Hey, where's Washed up been!?

- Hatboro_Swords



kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 25 @ 3:20 PM ET
Its more that there were some specific players they were interested in because of their upside.

They're pretty hot to find their own version of verhaege. They were probably interested in Sprong.

- Michael Ghofrani


Sprong, as in the guy that signed with Detroit for all of $2M on a one year deal?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 3:21 PM ET
$6M in cap space right now, but it is really less as they have $3.6M estimated in performance bonuses from players like Power and Levi, so it's basically money in, money out now for any moves they make.
- kingcong39

so he can't weaponize the cap space, got it


Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 25 @ 3:21 PM ET
Sprong, as in the guy that signed with Detroit for all of $2M on a one year deal?
- kingcong39


I dont actually know, just an educated guess.

Acciari is another good guess.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 25 @ 3:22 PM ET
I think it's possible/likely that he settled for Jost after failing to land another F.

I don't get Tokarski + Cooley if you are planning to waive a G. Kind of expect 3G atm. Would put some pressure on to move a D.

- Lunaion


I think he wanted depth in goal, especially if there's even a remote chance Comrie is claimed when sent to Rochester. Jacksonville can be destination for the Tokarski's of the world too
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 25 @ 3:25 PM ET
I think he wanted depth in goal, especially if there's even a remote chance Comrie is claimed when sent to Rochester. Jacksonville can be destination for the Tokarski's of the world too
- turbo044

Houser will be ready
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 25 @ 3:28 PM ET
so he can't weaponize the cap space, got it
- homiedclown


I still think he'll try and unload Oloffson, even if it's for a 4th or 5th. Joker, I think would have some value. You trade those two, that's 7.25 million in additional space. If you can trade Boosh instead of Joker the total is 7.5m. Sending Bryson and Comrie Down to Rochester I believe saves a little. So if my math is correct:

6.0m Cap space today
-3.6m Potential bonuses
7.3m Oloffson and Joker Trade
1.0m?? A guess at cap savings sending Comrie and Bryson down

10.7m New cap amount, plenty for a Tatar and Dumba or a goalie trade, etc.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 25 @ 3:30 PM ET
The ATW episode Petey teased about the Pegulas was pretty boring
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 25 @ 3:30 PM ET
I still think he'll try and unload Oloffson, even if it's for a 4th or 5th. Joker, I think would have some value. You trade those two, that's 7.25 million in additional space. If you can trade Boosh instead of Joker the total is 7.5m. Sending Bryson and Comrie Down to Rochester I believe saves a little. So if my math is correct:

6.0m Cap space today
-3.6m Potential bonuses
7.3m Oloffson and Joker Trade
1.0m?? A guess at cap savings sending Comrie and Bryson down

10.7m New cap amount, plenty for a Tatar and Dumba or a goalie trade, etc.

- turbo044


I think its more likely they go 12/8/3
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 25 @ 3:33 PM ET
The ATW episode Petey teased about the Pegulas was pretty boring
- Hank Balling

Worth the listen?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 25 @ 3:35 PM ET
Its more that there were some specific players they were interested in because of their upside.

They're pretty hot to find their own version of verhaege. They were probably interested in Sprong.

- Michael Ghofrani

How about their own version of average goaltending first?

This team drives me nuts.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 25 @ 3:36 PM ET
Worth the listen?
- ImThatGuy


There's some decent banter as always but that topic is like 25% of the show and basically centers around whether Terry would make $600m or $800m on a sale.

They both rip on Jeff Skinner for 10 mins which... ok
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 25 @ 3:51 PM ET
There's some decent banter as always but that topic is like 25% of the show and basically centers around whether Terry would make $600m or $800m on a sale.

They both rip on Jeff Skinner for 10 mins which... ok

- Hank Balling


I listen to them semi-regularly and frankly the only good episodes are when Vanek, JR, or a guest are with them.

I couldn't care less what Peters has to say 95% of the time, and Rivet is stuck in 2005 with his hockey takes.

They occasionally have some merit to what they say, but it's pretty clear they have grudges with the Sabres/game in general.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 25 @ 3:52 PM ET
I think its more likely they go 12/8/3
- Michael Ghofrani


No forward Reserves? I think they give Savoie and Rousek every chance to make the team and go:
(14) Tage, Skin, Tuch, Coz, Casey, JJ, Oloff, greenway, krebs, girgs, Jost, Okposo, Rousek, Savoie. If Oloff is traded, maybe a Tatar type is brought in
(7) Dahls, Sam, Power, Clifton, Johnson, Joker, Stillman (Boosh traded, Bryson demoted)
(2) Levi, UPL (Comrie demoted)

I don't think there's a chance in the world they go with 3 goalies, KA basically said that himself in his interview.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 25 @ 3:56 PM ET
No forward Reserves? I think they give Savoie and Rousek every chance to make the team and go:
(14) Tage, Skin, Tuch, Coz, Casey, JJ, Oloff, greenway, krebs, girgs, Jost, Okposo, Rousek, Savoie. If Oloff is traded, maybe a Tatar type is brought in
(7) Dahls, Sam, Power, Clifton, Johnson, Joker, Stillman (Boosh traded, Bryson demoted)
(2) Levi, UPL (Comrie demoted)

I don't think there's a chance in the world they go with 3 goalies, KA basically said that himself in his interview.

- turbo044


Savoie is definitely going back to the WHL. Rousek maybe. I dont think theyll have a choice with the three goalies.

Theyre not going to sign tokarski to be a back up in Roch, and theyre not sending Comrie down to be the backup there either.

Most of the tweener forwards are not waiver eligible yet so if theres a major injury they can call one of those guys up. If its a minor injury they'll probably go 11/7
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 25 @ 3:57 PM ET
How about their own version of average goaltending first?

This team drives me nuts.

- sbroads24


Lol i think they want that too.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 25 @ 4:02 PM ET
$6M in cap space right now, but it is really less as they have $3.6M estimated in performance bonuses from players like Power and Levi, so it's basically money in, money out now for any moves they make.
- kingcong39

Basically, either something needs to happen around the league that might allow Adams to open a Door to something. Or Adams decides to to set the market with a calculated move that gets other things moving possibly.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 25 @ 4:11 PM ET
Savoie is definitely going back to the WHL. Rousek maybe. I dont think theyll have a choice with the three goalies.

Theyre not going to sign tokarski to be a back up in Roch, and theyre not sending Comrie down to be the backup there either.

Most of the tweener forwards are not waiver eligible yet so if theres a major injury they can call one of those guys up. If its a minor injury they'll probably go 11/7

- Michael Ghofrani


We'll disagree on Comrie - I think, barring an injury, he's the starter in Rochester with Tokarski backup. If Comrie is claimed, no big deal.

Savoie, you're probably correct. He'll play the 9 games, spacing them out, sit out a little while, do a conditioning stint in Rochester, play the world juniors in December then finish off his season in Juniors followed by Rochester. If he lights it up in Buffalo, things could change but I honestly think Benson is more NHL ready than Savoie at this point.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 25 @ 4:12 PM ET
Savoie is definitely going back to the WHL. Rousek maybe. I dont think theyll have a choice with the three goalies.

Theyre not going to sign tokarski to be a back up in Roch, and theyre not sending Comrie down to be the backup there either.

Most of the tweener forwards are not waiver eligible yet so if theres a major injury they can call one of those guys up. If its a minor injury they'll probably go 11/7

- Michael Ghofrani


Y tho
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 25 @ 4:14 PM ET
I still think he'll try and unload Oloffson, even if it's for a 4th or 5th. Joker, I think would have some value. You trade those two, that's 7.25 million in additional space. If you can trade Boosh instead of Joker the total is 7.5m. Sending Bryson and Comrie Down to Rochester I believe saves a little. So if my math is correct:

6.0m Cap space today
-3.6m Potential bonuses
7.3m Oloffson and Joker Trade
1.0m?? A guess at cap savings sending Comrie and Bryson down

10.7m New cap amount, plenty for a Tatar and Dumba or a goalie trade, etc.

- turbo044


Not sure how you get teams to take those cap hits without bringing any money back. There is very little cap/budget left across the league.
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 25 @ 4:14 PM ET
We'll disagree on Comrie - I think, barring an injury, he's the starter in Rochester with Tokarski backup. If Comrie is claimed, no big deal.

Savoie, you're probably correct. He'll play the 9 games, spacing them out, sit out a little while, do a conditioning stint in Rochester, play the world juniors in December then finish off his season in Juniors followed by Rochester. If he lights it up in Buffalo, things could change but I honestly think Benson is more NHL ready than Savoie at this point.

- turbo044



They 100% wont do this. The Shane Wright thing isnt an actual plan, it's mismanagement.

Having him play an inconsistent 9 game trial where they have to shelter him does nothing for his development.

Everyone hates the CHL, but its still the best development league in the world and its not close. He'll go back, tear it up with benson, and then I guess join rochester, although its likely his team is pretty good this year in the W.

I also think part of the reason they wont send Comrie down is they dont know what to expect from Luukkonen. If it goes sideways, youll want the other goalie here.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 25 @ 4:17 PM ET
Y tho
- Hank Balling


450 thousand reasons.

They paid for quality depth, would imagine they want to use it.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 25 @ 4:17 PM ET
They 100% wont do this. The Shane Wright thing isnt an actual plan, it's mismanagement.

Having him play an inconsistent 9 game trial where they have to shelter him does nothing for his development.

Everyone hates the CHL, but its still the best development league in the world and its not close. He'll go back, tear it up with benson, and then I guess join rochester, although its likely his team is pretty good this year in the W.

I also think part of the reason they wont send Comrie down is they dont know what to expect from Luukkonen. If it goes sideways, youll want the other goalie here.

- Michael Ghofrani


If they do this, it would essentially prove they don't fully believe in UPL and still decided to do nothing. Those optics are pretty bad
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Jul 25 @ 4:19 PM ET
If they do this, it would essentially prove they don't fully believe in UPL and still decided to do nothing. Those optics are pretty bad
- Hank Balling


I think it more proves that they're not high on UPL, but couldn't do anything about it right now.

Distinction without a difference perhaps but I don't believe this was the day 1 plan.
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