- washedup20

It's best for everyone involved if there are no expectations

I dont think they wanted the specter of Peca looming behind Granato. The fans would be clamoring to make him HC by Halloween if things don't start well.

They want a nice, patient season with no expectations. No one wants Matt Ellis as HC
- Hank Balling

They shouldnt have finished strong if they wanted that. Its why I held out hope theyd be more aggressive, because when you finish 1 pt out, theres really no other way to sell growth again without making it.

It's best for everyone involved if there are no expectations
- Hank Balling

The 5 year plan is don’t die

caps, blues and wings had 80 or 81 points last season


how much better is the sabres than those 3 teams right now?

They shouldnt have finished strong if they wanted that. Its why I held out hope theyd be more aggressive, because when you finish 1 pt out, theres really no other way to sell growth again without making it.
- Michael Ghofrani

Donnie certainly wasn't going to tank. I doubt Adams loves the optics that Olofsson, Comrie and UPL were unplayable in important games down the stretch but Granato recognized that was necessary.

Now he's going to coach a roster with those players in even more prominent positions

caps, blues and wings had 80 or 81 points last season


how much better is the sabres than those 3 teams right now?
- homiedclown

A lot? The wings and blues sucked. Caps are a bit tougher to judge.

Did anyone think Mitts was better than Montour at the time of the trade?

Does anyone think Mitts is better than Montour now?

Who had a 5 year plan involving the drafting of forwards (minus 1OA) and rebuilding the team, only at year 4 to have massive voids that have been ignored with players like Mitts as the focal point of hoping it works out? While Montour gets traded for peanuts and thrives due to the player he is.

Adams struggles to evaluate and manage men. He has the mindset of a midget major manager.

Donnie certainly wasn't going to tank. I doubt Adams loves the optics that Olofsson, Comrie and UPL were unplayable in important games down the stretch but Granato recognized that was necessary.

Now he's going to coach a roster with those players in even more prominent positions
- Hank Balling

If the biggest issue you have with your HC as GM is that he recognizes correctly who is unplayable you have it pretty good. All the more reason for Adams give him the best roster possible.

team stayed healthy last season Tage Tuch and Dahlin scoring got crushed at the end of the year (from Jan on for Tage nd Dahlin) cuz of injuries

top 5 scoring team And should be the same

career years for many guys And most are in young 20s and only getting better. Skinner is the only one with a real risk of regression. Power, Cozens, JJ, Casey, Tage should all progress

puck luck when their way many times on the road And they were horrible at home, so that should correct itself

6k had a winning record, you all say he sucks Cuz all of the above.


zero chance any of this goes in the other direction, you are right
- homiedclown

For very glass half empty clown, I'm your glass half full

If the biggest issue you have with your HC as GM is that he recognizes correctly who is unplayable you have it pretty good. All the more reason for Adams give him the best roster possible.
- Michael Ghofrani

We all await the prophesied Good Day™️

Hopefully gerbe is right

We all await the prophesied Good Day™️

Hopefully gerbe is right
- Hank Balling

I hope he can come back here and river dance all over us.

kinda ties back to my point that I think they think his job is safer than it actually is.
- Michael Ghofrani

A riskaverse GM is a GM who normally doesn't last long, unless his management has zero expectations.

If the biggest issue you have with your HC as GM is that he recognizes correctly who is unplayable you have it pretty good. All the more reason for Adams give him the best roster possible.
- Michael Ghofrani

It is nothing less than gross negligence as GM to saddle your head coach with the players he correctly deemed as unplayable.

No other way around it.

I hope he can come back here and river dance all over us.
- Michael Ghofrani

A riskaverse GM is a GM who normally doesn't last long, unless his management has zero expectations.
- kingcong39

Yes and no. Risk averse GMs are maybe as likely to get fired as big risk takers (that come up short) but I think their career in the NHL in general is a bit longer.

That may be the issue here. Adams wasnt one of the handful in line for the next wave of GM openings. So if he bets big on a deal and it blows up in his face, thats all he'll be remembered for and likely costs him a shot at another GM role.

At his current pace, he'll be a guy who came up short but oversaw a chunk of the turnaround. Whether its correct to attribute that to him or not is a matter of debate, but I bet he's far more likely to land another management job in that scenario.

Yes and no. Risk averse GMs are maybe as likely to get fired as big risk takers (that come up short) but I think their career in the NHL in general is a bit longer.

That may be the issue here. Adams wasnt one of the handful in line for the next wave of GM openings. So if he bets big on a deal and it blows up in his face, thats all he'll be remembered for and likely costs him a shot at another GM role.

At his current pace, he'll be a guy who came up short but oversaw a chunk of the turnaround. Whether its correct to attribute that to him or not is a matter of debate, but I bet he's far more likely to land another management job in that scenario.
- Michael Ghofrani

He also successfully convinced a large portion of both the fan base and local media that patience and development is key to long-term success while also never putting a timeline on beginning success. This job is his for at least 2.5 more seasons and another coach.

Don't set expectations and you'll guarantee a satisfactory performance

Yes and no. Risk averse GMs are maybe as likely to get fired as big risk takers (that come up short) but I think their career in the NHL in general is a bit longer.

That may be the issue here. Adams wasnt one of the handful in line for the next wave of GM openings. So if he bets big on a deal and it blows up in his face, thats all he'll be remembered for and likely costs him a shot at another GM role.

At his current pace, he'll be a guy who came up short but oversaw a chunk of the turnaround. Whether its correct to attribute that to him or not is a matter of debate, but I bet he's far more likely to land another management job in that scenario.
- Michael Ghofrani

where did Darcy get his second job as an NHL GM?


other than Botts, none of the Pegula's whiffs ever came close the sane job title with another nhl team

Yes and no. Risk averse GMs are maybe as likely to get fired as big risk takers (that come up short) but I think their career in the NHL in general is a bit longer.

That may be the issue here. Adams wasnt one of the handful in line for the next wave of GM openings. So if he bets big on a deal and it blows up in his face, thats all he'll be remembered for and likely costs him a shot at another GM role.

At his current pace, he'll be a guy who came up short but oversaw a chunk of the turnaround. Whether its correct to attribute that to him or not is a matter of debate, but I bet he's far more likely to land another management job in that scenario.
- Michael Ghofrani

They only last longer for management groups that have zero expectations of being a real team.

His seat should be warm this season if he makes no further meaningful moves.

where did Darcy get his second job as an NHL GM?


other than Botts, none of the Pegula's whiffs ever came close the sane job title with another nhl team
- homiedclown

Regier was Senior VP for ARZ before stepping down for personal reasons. not a GM or Ass GM role but still a decent one.

Botts got another as you mentioned. But the Tim Murray's and Paul Fentons are cooked.

They only last longer for management groups that have zero expectations of being a real team.

His seat should be warm this season if he makes no further meaningful moves.
- kingcong39

Well yeah and thats almost certainly where his next role would be (either that or lesser spot for an established team).

I think it will be but Hank is probably right, in that scenario he probably cuts Granato loose.

Well yeah and thats almost certainly where his next role would be (either that or lesser spot for an established team).

I think it will be but Hank is probably right, in that scenario he probably cuts Granato loose.
- Michael Ghofrani

Then what do you do with your NTDP roster (that failed) and the new coach? Round 4 of rebuild?

What about Keller Vejmelka package ?
- Buff36

Sure. Let’s do it

Other than risking the Season with the goaltending. Has Adams made a risky move since he took over ?

Other than risking the Season with the goaltending. Has Adams made a risky move since he took over ?
- Buff36

Umm. Unloading Eichel, Risto, and Reinhart.

I get he was forced but still. Very risky to do what he did

Umm. Unloading Eichel, Risto, and Reinhart.

I get he was forced but still. Very risky to do what he did
- Sabretooth9

Wouldn't call that risky, still ? to be answered with all those trades. Thank God Tuch has been a monster