who was better

Bergeron or Datsyuk
- senstroll

Flip a coin. Errr maybe Bergeron cuz he played more.

Just in case you were wondering what last year's list was:

#40 - Vladislav Kara – LW (Yugra - VHL)
#39 - Kalle Loponen – D (Koo Koo Kouvola/JyP HT – Finland SM-Liiga)
#38 - Jeremy McKenna – RW (Wichita – ECHL, Toronto – AHL)
#37 - John Fusco – D (Harvard – NCAA)
#36 - Noel Hoefenmayer – D (Newfoundland – ECHL, Toronto – AHL)
#35 - Ryan Chyzowski - LW (Newfoundland - ECHL, Toronto - AHL)
#34 - Braeden Kressler - C (Flint - OHL)
#33 - Nikita Grebyonkin - RW (Stalnye Lisy - MHL, Magnitogorsk - KHL)
#32 - Vyacheslav Peksa - G (Ibris Kazan - MHL)
#31 - Dryden McKay - G (Minnesota Duluth - NCAA)
#30 - Bobby McMann - C (Newfoundland - ECHL, Toronto - AHL)
#29 - Pavel Gogolev – LW (Newfoundland - ECHL, Toronto – AHL)
#28 - Joe Miller – C (Chicago – USHL)
#27 - Veeti Miettinen – RW (St. Cloud St. – NCAA)
#26 - Brandon Lisowsky - LW (Saskatoon - WHL)
#25 - Max Ellis - RW (Notre Dame - NCAA, Toronto - AHL)
#24 - Axel Rindell – D (Karpat – Finland SM-Liiga)
#23 - Mac Hollowell - D (Toronto – AHL)
#22 - Artur Akhtyamov – G (Ak Bars Kazan – MHL/VHL/KHL)
#21 - Semyon Der-Argushintsev - C (Toronto - AHL)
#20 - Curtis Douglas - C (Toronto – AHL)
#19 - Mikhail Abramov – C (Toronto – AHL)
#18 - Dennis Hildeby - G (Farjestad - SHL)
#17 - Ty Voit – LW (Sarnia – OHL)
#16 - Filip Kral - D (Toronto - AHL)
#15 - Nick Moldenhauer - RW (Chicago - USHL)
#14 - Rodion Amirov – LW (Ufa Salavat – KHL)
#13 - Ryan Tverberg – C (Connecticut – NCAA)
#12 - Joseph Woll – G (Toronto – AHL/NHL)
#11 - Mikko Kokkonen – D (Pelicans – Finland SM-Liiga)
#10 - Fraser Minten - C (Kamloops - WHL)
#9 - William Villeneuve – D (Saint John – QMJHL)
#8 - Dmitry Ovchinnikov – LW (Sibir Novosibirsk – MHL/KHL, Toronto - AHL)
#7 - Roni Hirvonen – C (HIFK Helsinki – Finland SM-Liiga)
#6 - Alex Steeves – C (Toronto - AHL/NHL)
#5 - Nick Abruzzese - C (Harvard – NCAA/Toronto - NHL)
#4 - Pontus Holmberg – LW (Vaxjo HC – SHL /Toronto - AHL)
#3 - Topi Niemela - D (Karpat - Finnish SM-Liiga)
#2 – Nick Robertson – LW (Toronto – AHL/NHL)
#1 – Matthew Knies – LW (Minnesota – NCAA)
- Atomic Wedgie

So, remove knies and add a recent draft pick to the back 10 and done.

is this enough for Ohtani?
Manoah, Teideman, Barriera, O Martinez
- senstroll

Meh, not worth it for a few months of ohtani.
I dont see him extending on the east coast, specially in Canada

What a great time to renew my mortgage.

Really wish I would’ve locked in for 5 years instead of 3.
- bryant

It’s a crapshoot. I’d go short term or variable right now because the rates are likely to drop in the future.

I was building a house in the early eighties and ran out of money so I went to the bank for a loan. Using my car as collateral I borrowed 10 grand on a 5 year term, at a rate of 24 percent. That was the lowest rate at the time.

Meh, not worth it for a few months of ohtani.
I dont see him extending on the east coast, specially in Canada
- Fakepartofme

then you just sign him for 10 years and 3 bajillion dollars

Fun fact: Ryan Chyzowski is the son of Dave Chyzowski, the 2nd overall pick in the 1989 NHL draft.

Everyone remembers 1989 as the year the Leafs had three 1st round picks: Scott Thornton, Rob Pearson, Steve Bancroft (all from the Belleville Bulls).

But Dave Chyzowski was picked 2nd overall by the Islanders, and played only 126 games in the NHL over 6 seasons (1 season with the Blackhawks), amassing only 15 goals and 16 assists.

But let's talk about the Leafs having terrible picks that year.

Sigh.
- Atomic Wedgie

No one cares about the islanders.
And the leafs missed out on some really good players.

is this enough for Ohtani?
Manoah, Teideman, Barriera, O Martinez
- senstroll

Was going to maybe go to a jays game this weekend to see Ohtani

The entire series is sold out

What a great time to renew my mortgage.

Really wish I would’ve locked in for 5 years instead of 3.
- bryant

I gotta renew by the end of September
Ugh.
Hoping it drops more.

then you just sign him for 10 years and 3 bajillion dollars
- senstroll

Not worth that either.

Not worth that either.
- Fakepartofme

doesnt matter to me how much he would cost. give him whatever

It’s a crapshoot. I’d go short term or variable right now because the rates are likely to drop in the future.

I was building a house in the early eighties and ran out of money so I went to the bank for a loan. Using my car as collateral I borrowed 10 grand on a 5 year term, at a rate of 24 percent. That was the lowest rate at the time.
- shack67

Ya I think we’re going to do 1 max 2 year.

Who knows what the right call is.

I had Myocarditis

It’s a crapshoot. I’d go short term or variable right now because the rates are likely to drop in the future.

I was building a house in the early eighties and ran out of money so I went to the bank for a loan. Using my car as collateral I borrowed 10 grand on a 5 year term, at a rate of 24 percent. That was the lowest rate at the time.
- shack67

Ouch. I thought my 11% was bad.

Ouch. I thought my 11% was bad.
- Canada Cup

I do kinda giggle when people are freaking out that their new mortgage is 5.5%.

Like, you know that's still historically low, right?

Ouch. I thought my 11% was bad.
- Canada Cup

how did anyone afford their 80k houses

how did anyone afford their 80k houses
- senstroll

affording 1 is hard enough

Ouch. I thought my 11% was bad.
- Canada Cup

I know a few people who had to walk away from their houses.

affording 1 is hard enough
- drexel

lol

how did anyone afford their 80k houses
- senstroll

Not as easy as you seem to think, wages were pretty low also.

I had Myocarditis
- senstroll

The Leafs are screwing up people's tickers around here. Hope you're okay senstrollsies.

I had reggaemylitis.

Not as easy as you seem to think, wages were pretty low also.
- shack67

they are still low
but a house in 1980 was like 2-3 times an average income, and today is like 8-10

This is too early for this!!!
- aries1976

this will take us to the beginning of training camp

Pretty excited about the prospect of Brad Marchand getting the C of the Bruins

Well one out of forty ain't bad.

🥺
- Zezel

#5 - Nick Abruzzese - C (Harvard – NCAA/Toronto - NHL)

hasn't gotten a contract from the Leafs yet
is he still a prospect???

they are still low
but a house in 1980 was like 2-3 times an average income, and today is like 8-10
- senstroll

Yes I suppose, I’m not from Ontario or BC. To be honest if I was a young person and home ownership was important to me I’d probably move to edmonton.