All you guys do is talk about Nylander.

Will he stay? Will he go?

Could we trade him for a fox? Could we trade him in a box?

This summer is dragging on….

If the Leafs want to have the best team with their current talent, moving Nylander out is not an option. They do have to make at least one move to be cap compliant. Brodie seems to be the most likely candidate IMO. FFS, his cap hit is almost the same as Nylander's.
- winsix

Would rather keep Brodie. If you’re moving someone to bring in cheaper replacement, Jarnkrok makes more sense. They have more options upfront than on D. Another possibility would be to move Timmins and Lafferty down (risk losing them) and go with league minimum guys like Nickie and Holmberg and Lagesson as 7th D.

Would rather keep Brodie. If you’re moving someone to bring in cheaper replacement, Jarnkrok makes more sense. They have more options upfront than on D. Another possibility would be to move Timmins and Lafferty down (risk losing them) and go with league minimum guys like Nickie and Holmberg and Lagesson as 7th D.
- Canada Cup

I know the Leafs are all-in…

But I’d rather they try to keep restocking the cupboards, then mortgage the future. Why is it so bad that they trade Nylander for a prospect and top 15 pick? Cap space is king. I know NYR probably wouldn’t do this, but why not try to get Schneider or Laf + picks for Willy? Give the fans something to look forward to, extend the window.

I know the Leafs are all-in…

But I’d rather they try to keep restocking the cupboards, then mortgage the future. Why is it so bad that they trade Nylander for a prospect and top 15 pick? Cap space is king. I know NYR probably wouldn’t do this, but why not try to get Schneider or Laf + picks for Willy? Give the fans something to look forward to, extend the window.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

All you guys do is talk about Nylander

The window is Matthews and Marner in their prime. I have no problem with any trade that improves their chances during this window

All you guys do is talk about Nylander
- Canada Cup

You started it.

You started it.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Nah, just reacting to the obsession with asset management. Nylander is the asset most discussed. Brodie is talked about as well.

If you can make a trade that improves the team, do it. In your view that means trading for an upgrade on D. If there’s no trade that makes the team better, take a shot. You can see what’s available at the TDL. The notion that you have to trade all your expiring contracts doesn’t make sense.
- Canada Cup

You can trade Nylander for picks/prospects which you can then use to land a defenceman. If this team is so goddam good, they should be able to be in a playoff position without Nylander.

You can trade Nylander for picks/prospects which you can then use to land a defenceman. If this team is so goddam good, they should be able to be in a playoff position without Nylander.
- fifty__missions

Leafs problems in the playoffs were more about scoring than defense. Scoring more than 2 goals in a playoff game was a challenge, so adding a defenseman and subtracting one of their top scorers doesn't sound like a solution to me.

Would rather keep Brodie. If you’re moving someone to bring in cheaper replacement, Jarnkrok makes more sense. They have more options upfront than on D. Another possibility would be to move Timmins and Lafferty down (risk losing them) and go with league minimum guys like Nickie and Holmberg and Lagesson as 7th D.
- Canada Cup

Don't mind this option at all, however not sure it creates enough cap space. Making this move would still Leafs' cap space tighter than a bull's ass at fly time.

Don't mind this option at all, however not sure it creates enough cap space. Making this move would still Leafs' cap space tighter than a bull's ass at fly time.
- winsix

This was from a Leafs Nation article. It leaves them $200K under the cap. I’d be ok seeing what they could get for Jarnkrok. He’s their designated Swiss Army Knife now but there’s options upfront and maybe you get either a league minimum guy and a pick or a just less than $2M guy to put on D

You can trade Nylander for picks/prospects which you can then use to land a defenceman. If this team is so goddam good, they should be able to be in a playoff position without Nylander.
- fifty__missions

They would be in a playoff position without Nylander. I'd be interested to see which team would be trading a defenceman of sufficient stature for futures.

All you guys do is talk about Nylander

The window is Matthews and Marner in their prime. I have no problem with any trade that improves their chances during this window
- Canada Cup

Powerhouse teams keep replenishing young talent. Extend the window. Because if they don’t win with these guys (JT/WN mostly) then there’s no point giving up in AM/MM. Give them other, younger (better) players to compete with.

The truth is, Marner and Matthews are the only two players that really matter if they’re going to win a cup. They’re the golden tickets. Everyone else is interchangeable.

They would be in a playoff position without Nylander. I'd be interested to see which team would be trading a defenceman of sufficient stature for futures.
- Zezel

Just picked up a Ludwig set of drums. Have no idea how to play yet, but I'll learn.

Powerhouse teams keep replenishing young talent. Extend the window. Because if they don’t win with these guys (JT/WN mostly) then there’s no point giving up in AM/MM. Give them other, younger (better) players to compete with.

The truth is, Marner and Matthews are the only two players that really matter if they’re going to win a cup. They’re the golden tickets. Everyone else is interchangeable.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I agree with what you are saying a bit here. I think the compete level needs to go way up to win for this group. They don’t have that fight in them this group.

Most teams that win Cups or have a window of a few years where they are legit contenders (win or not) typically drain assets to get that to happen so cupboards are pretty empty.

Matthews and Matthews alone is the only piece that absolutely needs to remain. To me 16/88/91 are the pieces that are interchangeable. I don’t have 16 on 34 level. And with JT being a centre and having a NMC that’s why I think a lot of folks see 88/16 moving and that’s why they are constantly talked about this summer especially.

16 is better than 88 but not substantially game to game and Leafs make the playoffs with either one traded. Team is still very good without one of 88/16

Not sure what to do... Drink my expiring beer to get poopfaced now or sell it to brew some and get poopfaced in the future.
- Tee-Dot

no time like the present

I agree with what you are saying a bit here. I think the compete level needs to go way up to win for this group. They don’t have that fight in them this group.

Most teams that win Cups or have a window of a few years where they are legit contenders (win or not) typically drain assets to get that to happen so cupboards are pretty empty.

Matthews and Matthews alone is the only piece that absolutely needs to remain. To me 16/88/91 are the pieces that are interchangeable. I don’t have 16 on 34 level. And with JT being a centre and having a NMC that’s why I think a lot of folks see 88/16 moving and that’s why they are constantly talked about this summer especially.

16 is better than 88 but not substantially game to game and Leafs make the playoffs with either one traded. Team is still very good without one of 88/16
- Big23Questions

We’ll have to agree to disagree on 16 vs 88. And that’s fine.

I don’t see the Leafs making the playoffs without Mitch. Anyone who’s ever played with Mitch had their career years with him. (Except Hyman )

I was watching reaction videos to the top McDavid plays on YT. So I watched Marners highlights right after just to compare them.. Dude, Mitch does things no one else can do. McDavid has the speed and literally everything else. But Mitch’s vision, creativity, and skill are incredible. Mitch is the only other player with highlights on par with 97.

Nah, just reacting to the obsession with asset management. Nylander is the asset most discussed. Brodie is talked about as well.
- Canada Cup

Ya thats what happens on a site dedicated to discussing hockey, trades and everything related.

Weird, that two players on expiring contracts would be discussed.

Weird.

I agree with what you are saying a bit here. I think the compete level needs to go way up to win for this group. They don’t have that fight in them this group.

Most teams that win Cups or have a window of a few years where they are legit contenders (win or not) typically drain assets to get that to happen so cupboards are pretty empty.

Matthews and Matthews alone is the only piece that absolutely needs to remain. To me 16/88/91 are the pieces that are interchangeable. I don’t have 16 on 34 level. And with JT being a centre and having a NMC that’s why I think a lot of folks see 88/16 moving and that’s why they are constantly talked about this summer especially.

16 is better than 88 but not substantially game to game and Leafs make the playoffs with either one traded. Team is still very good without one of 88/16
- Big23Questions

At this point, trade whoever, i really dont care.
Just make the team more balanced.

At this point, trade whoever, i really dont care.
Just make the team more balanced.
- Fakepartofme

Absolutely 100%! As long as it’s not just picks prospects for either 16/88 I would say Leafs should be open to moving either and I’m almost certain they are.

Ya thats what happens on a site dedicated to discussing hockey, trades and everything related.

Weird, that two players on expiring contracts would be discussed.

Weird.
- Fakepartofme

Weird that you missed the point. Making a hockey trade that improves the team makes sense. Making a trade that weakens the team because you’re worried about “asset management” doesn’t.

We’ll have to agree to disagree on 16 vs 88. And that’s fine.

I don’t see the Leafs making the playoffs without Mitch. Anyone who’s ever played with Mitch had their career years with him. (Except Hyman )

I was watching reaction videos to the top McDavid plays on YT. So I watched Marners highlights right after just to compare them.. Dude, Mitch does things no one else can do. McDavid has the speed and literally everything else. But Mitch’s vision, creativity, and skill are incredible. Mitch is the only other player with highlights on par with 97.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Ya man 16 is real good offence player no doubt. But man the Leafs the playoffs without 16. When babs had him all the way down on 3rd line with Matt Martin he was barely playing cause he was having a brutal season at that point (much like Willy did when he held out) the Leafs were still cruising. I like 16 and 88 personally but to say they are a non playoff team without one of them is nuckin futs.

- nobody is even close to on par with McJesus
- everybody who passed a puck to 34 or banged in one of his rebounds had a career year

Ya man 16 is real good offence player no doubt. But man the Leafs the playoffs without 16. When babs had him all the way down on 3rd line with Matt Martin he was barely playing cause he was having a brutal season at that point (much like Willy did when he held out) the Leafs were still cruising. I like 16 and 88 personally but to say they are a non playoff team without one of them is nuckin futs.

- nobody is even close to on par with McJesus
- everybody who passed a puck to 34 or banged in one of his rebounds had a career year
- Big23Questions

Strictly offensive players don’t get Selke nominations.

Just go watch Mitch’s highlights. He makes so many insane plays that I think fans just take it for granted.

Leafs would have no issue making the playoffs without Nylander. It’s not even a debate. You guys all wanted Mitch traded early last season, basically tried to run him out of town. But he goes on to put up 99pts, had a 23 game pt streak, and put up 14 pts in 11 playoff games and was a +7.

Stop comparing Willy to that. He’s not even on the same planet as Mitch.

Just picked up a Ludwig set of drums. Have no idea how to play yet, but I'll learn.



- winsix

Very cool! Learning something new like that is the best. How many pieces is the kit? I've been learning fishing, and just got given a n old prosumer level camera and lens so I'm gonna (frank) around with that too.

Strictly offensive players don’t get Selke nominations.

Just go watch Mitch’s highlights. He makes so many insane plays that I think fans just take it for granted.

Leafs would have no issue making the playoffs without Nylander. It’s not even a debate. You guys all wanted Mitch traded early last season, basically tried to run him out of town. But he goes on to put up 99pts, had a 23 game pt streak, and put up 14 pts in 11 playoff games and was a +7.

Stop comparing Willy to that. He’s not even on the same planet as Mitch.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

they both reside on Earth

new blog everyone